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He's intriguing but I'd still much rather go the rout of trading up to get the better talent (MKG,Beal)--

Every year there is a Lillard somewhere in the first round.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
He's intriguing but I'd still much rather go the rout of trading up to get the better talent (MKG,Beal)--

Every year there is a Lillard somewhere in the first round.
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Every year there are undersized shooting guards and forwards with ugly shooting mechanics
 
Run BJM said:
I read someone comparing him to a young Latrell Sprewell (with his head on straight). Seems pretty close to his upside.
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I agree. I think MKG plays a little bigger than Sprewell though. Spre had the better jumper.
 
When you factor in their builds it's hard to compare:

MKG (age 17): 6'7.5" 228 lbs (via Draftexpress)
Spree: 6'5" 190 lbs
 
Man........ none of these guys are standing out above the others once you get past 5 or 6......... who the hell knows who will be there at 11!
 
There is no way MKG has Spree's offensive game.
 
HCP said:
There is no way MKG has Spree's offensive game.
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Its not like Spre was a dynamic offensive player. He had a so-so long distance shot, but got a lot of his points by being great in transition, just like MKG. Sprewell was always kind of an overrated player. Both are great defenders though, I think thats where the comparison is sorta valid.
 
Man, I remember Spree bombing 3's @ GS! MKG won't make a 3 in the NBA til his 10th season probably.
 
But he averaged 20+ points his years while a Warrior though. I honestly can care less about % if you are putting the points on the board! Rather have Spree.....
 
Spree came out as primarily a defensive player but despite having a so-so jumper he got to the rim because of his athleticism though he did have a knack for getting to the rim. MKG shows that at times but can he do it at will?

His shooting mechanics are more fugged up than Spree's too. I'm surprised he weighed in at 228 lbs, he looks pretty thin to me.
 
HCP said:
But he averaged 20+ points his years while a Warrior though. I honestly can care less about % if you are putting the points on the board! Rather have Spree.....
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He was putting up 18 and 20 shots a game during those years. He was the premier player on those Warriors teams. MKG won't be counted on to put up 20 shots a game. Spre never got a PER over 20.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I just noticed this; I like a guy who thinks he's the best: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/06/01/SP9N1ORJRL.DTL

Here is his profile, he shot a higher % on two pointers than Bradley Beal; he's more athletic and taller and got more rebounds. Shows what a deep draft this is, that he might be available in the 2nd round. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Will-Barton-5737/
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There is a lot of talent late in the draft and I would not mind trading our 2nd rdrs and cash to move up to later 1st rd. These recent comments from a western conference exec would suggest that could be easily doable:

"According to one western conference executive, a lot of non-lottery teams in the 1st round are looking to trade their pick this year for salary reasons.


Teams Looking to Trade First-Round Picks: Over the next few weeks, don’t be surprised if a large number of teams outside of the lottery try to trade their first-round pick.

Multiple sources have told HOOPSWORLD that a lot of teams are trying to get rid their pick, which could make for an interesting draft night.

“Almost everyone wants to get out of their pick in this draft,” said one Western Conference executive. “For some teams, it’s hard to take on money for multiple years in this economic climate, especially if the player would not make an impact and help the team win immediately.”

That means contending teams like the Oklahoma City Thunder or Chicago Bulls may opt to trade their late first-round pick rather than draft a rookie who won’t really contribute (just like Reggie Jackson and Jimmy Butler this season). Expect plenty of trade rumors over the next several weeks."
 
Blazinaway said:
There is a lot of talent late in the draft and I would not mind trading our 2nd rdrs and cash to move up to later 1st rd. These recent comments from a western conference exec would suggest that could be easily doable:

"According to one western conference executive, a lot of non-lottery teams in the 1st round are looking to trade their pick this year for salary reasons.


Teams Looking to Trade First-Round Picks: Over the next few weeks, don’t be surprised if a large number of teams outside of the lottery try to trade their first-round pick.

Multiple sources have told HOOPSWORLD that a lot of teams are trying to get rid their pick, which could make for an interesting draft night.

“Almost everyone wants to get out of their pick in this draft,” said one Western Conference executive. “For some teams, it’s hard to take on money for multiple years in this economic climate, especially if the player would not make an impact and help the team win immediately.”

That means contending teams like the Oklahoma City Thunder or Chicago Bulls may opt to trade their late first-round pick rather than draft a rookie who won’t really contribute (just like Reggie Jackson and Jimmy Butler this season). Expect plenty of trade rumors over the next several weeks."
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Great post

None of theplayers in this draft are ready to step in on even a mid level team and make an impact. This is not a deep draft, and many GMs agree.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
Great post

None of theplayers in this draft are ready to step in on even a mid level team and make an impact. This is not a deep draft, and many GMs agree.
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I think it might be a deep draft as far as pure talent, but the most talented guys have only played college ball for one or two years; so yes, they aren't ready to step in and make an impact the first year, but they might be able to later. Interestingly enough, James Harden did not make an impact at all his first year and wasn't much better his second year.
 
HCP said:
Man........ none of these guys are standing out above the others once you get past 5 or 6......... who the hell knows who will be there at 11!
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I think at 11 you look for either a complimentary role player or a project player like Meyers.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I think it might be a deep draft as far as pure talent, but the most talented guys have only played college ball for one or two years; so yes, they aren't ready to step in and make an impact the first year, but they might be able to later. Interestingly enough, James Harden did not make an impact at all his first year and wasn't much better his second year.
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I will give you your point, true. But there are those that are so geeked on this draft and are buying all the hype. Every one of these guys, even the projected number one pick, is so subjective, buzz words like potential, upside, and develope this or that part of his game, do nothing for me. All the same can be said about most of the seconed rounders.

a deep draft, or even a good draft you have guys like Oden and durrant who are plug and play guys that have all star potential. Almost every year has a few obvious cant miss players.

This year the guard are short, cant pass or cant shoot, the wings are ok but most have to be open,and the bgs are one dementional.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
SI had an interesting comparison for MKG: "A sane Ron Artest"
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So a solid role player who will never be the best player on his team, or even a primary offensive threat?

That's not worth a #2 pick, is it? Kidd-Gilchrist had better have more upside than a non-crazy Artest.
 
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