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I didn't see a thread about this yet, but I figured it'd be fun to bump now and then to see how far away, or within we are to maintaining our 2013 pick. Right now we have 1/2 win away from getting our 1st round pick.
 
I think now that the deadline is over the team will pull it together and win just enough to cost us an asset
 
I look for Dallas to pass us, and everything else to be about the same as it is now. I predicted we would have the 10-11 pick in the draft. I think it is more likely that others pass us than we pass anyone ahead of us. So I think our "asset" is pretty safe.
 
I just looked at our remaining schedule....... I only think we win 7 more games.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Not really correct, better to look at the Conference standings as a team with a worse record than us might end up in the playoffs and therefore the top 16 (assuming we're ahead of the 8th seed in the east, if you're standings are fine).
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I hadn't considered that. E: after looking again, I noticed that the 9th team in the east has a worse record than us, but the 8th in the east has a better, so at this moment, my original positioning still makes sense.
 
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Ok lets say we get the 10-11 pick, we give Maynor the qualifying offer, and we let JJ walk.........

How much can we offer a FA?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Ok lets say we get the 10-11 pick, we give Maynor the qualifying offer, and we let JJ walk.........

How much can we offer a FA?
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If we renounce everyone except Maynor for some reason, his cap hold is 5 million. I suppose we can renounce Maynor as well and still sign him using Bird rights if we don't land a RFA we renounced him for? The new cap is supposed to be 60 million, so renouncing everyone and their dog, and including the 11th pick, we would have somewhere right around 13-14 million. If we do not renounce Maynor is drops by 5 million. If we do not renounce Hickson it drops by 7 million more
 
Wait a minute. I thought Maynor's cap hold is 5 mil, but his QO is 3.4 mil. So, if we sign his QO, it'd be 13 to 14 minus 3.4.

Mediocre Man said:
If we renounce everyone except Maynor for some reason, his cap hold is 5 million. I suppose we can renounce Maynor as well and still sign him using Bird rights if we don't land a RFA we renounced him for? The new cap is supposed to be 60 million, so renouncing everyone and their dog, and including the 11th pick, we would have somewhere right around 13-14 million. If we do not renounce Maynor is drops by 5 million. If we do not renounce Hickson it drops by 7 million more
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I still can't believe people are rooting for losses. I just don't understand what's going on...

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BlazerWookee said:
I still can't believe people are rooting for losses. I just don't understand what's going on...
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the team has a miniscule chance of making the playoffs, but there's a real possibility that they win just enough to get the 13th or 14th pick and have to surrender it. Given the alternatives, I'd rather see the team lose and miss the playoffs and keep a potentially valuable rebuilding asset vs. just missing the playoffs anyways and surrendering their pick.
 
Mediocre Man said:
So you are rooting for the team to miss the playoffs and not have a draft pick?
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No, I'm rooting for them to play to win every game they can possibly win, draft pick be damned. Let the chips fall where they may. Keep in mind if we don't have a pick, we don't have the cap hold, plus if there's somebody that's truly worth getting in the draft, I'm sure Paul's checkbook can figure out a way to get that somebody. Losing in order to get a better draft pick is like emptying a keg of beer onto the ground so you can get your deposit back sooner.
 
Nikolokolus said:
the team has a miniscule chance of making the playoffs, but there's a real possibility that they win just enough to get the 13th or 14th pick and have to surrender it. Given the alternatives, I'd rather see the team lose and miss the playoffs and keep a potentially valuable rebuilding asset vs. just missing the playoffs anyways and surrendering their pick.
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Screw the pick. If it was so damned valuable, we shouldn't have traded it away in the first place. Besides, won't next year's draft be much deeper? What about the year after that? We've got to pay the price sooner or later, I'd rather it happen in a year with a really shallow draft.
 
Draft is shallow at the top but pretty deep in the teens. What I mean by that is a guy who goes 5 isn't much better (if any) from a guy who goes 15. You will probably see a lot of teams try to trade back into the later portion of the first round.
 
BlazerWookee said:
Screw the pick. If it was so damned valuable, we shouldn't have traded it away in the first place. Besides, won't next year's draft be much deeper? What about the year after that? We've got to pay the price sooner or later, I'd rather it happen in a year with a really shallow draft.
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If the notion is to build a team centered around LaMarcus then the clock is ticking before he enters the last year of his deal. They can't reasonably postpone surrounding him with talent if they are serious about pursuing that strategy. Draft picks are the cheapest and (for small market teams) the most reliable way of adding talent.
 
Nikolokolus said:
If the notion is to build a team centered around LaMarcus then the clock is ticking before he enters the last year of his deal. They can't reasonably postpone surrounding him with talent if they are serious about pursuing that strategy. Draft picks are the cheapest and (for small market teams) the most reliable way of adding talent.
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They're also relatively easy to acquire if someone wants one badly enough. Tanking for ping pong balls is never the right way to do things, and nothing anybody in here can say will convince me otherwise.
 
BlazerWookee said:
They're also relatively easy to acquire if someone wants one badly enough. Tanking for ping pong balls is never the right way to do things, and nothing anybody in here can say will convince me otherwise.
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So you're immune to reason? Super.
 
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