2013 Official NBA Off-season Movement & Rumors (Merged threads)

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Adrian Wojnarowski ✔ @WojYahooNBA

Golden State will send first-round picks in 2014 and 2017 to the Jazz, league sources tell Y! Sports.
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
Meyers Leonard is older than Derrick Favors - and, not true. Utah was expected to let Millsap and Al Jeff go BECAUSE they had faith in Kanter and Favors.
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I said they still liked him, but he has not developed as much as they would have hoped. He is not an elite defender. His BB IQ is not high. He is foul prone. Not saying he sucks, just that he has a ways to go.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
The most rebounds he got last year was like 15. And he averaged less than 8...so it didn't happen all that much. This is just another guy blazer fans are inexplicably in love with for god knows whatever reason. the new ramon sessions perhaps.

your vision sucks.
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He averaged 20 MPG... You know, because he was playing behind Millsap.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I said they still liked him, but he has not developed as much as they would have hoped. He is not an elite defender. His BB IQ is not high. He is foul prone. Not saying he sucks, just that he has a ways to go.
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2.6 BPG, 101 D RTG, DWS of 2.9, 5.7 block %, 2.0 steal %.

But he isn't an elite defender? Those numbers are better than Chandler, Asik, Dwight. But he's not an elite defender? C'mon.
 
Laker fans are already spinning they are better off with Bogut and either Klay/Barnes then they would have been with just Howard. And to be honest they may be right. At least based on last year. I don't want to find out if that is true. Hope he goes to Houston.
 
Marc Stein ✔ @ESPNSteinLine

Dallas Mavericks have been officially notified they are out of Dwight Howard Sweepstakes, sources tell ESPN
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Laker fans are already spinning they are better off with Bogut and either Klay/Barnes then they would have been with just Howard. And to be honest they may be right. At least based on last year. I don't want to find out if that is true. Hope he goes to Houston.
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Yeah, I'd love to see Asik and Jeremy lin in a L*ker univorm.
 
B-Roy said:
Marc Stein ✔ @ESPNSteinLine

Dallas Mavericks have been officially notified they are out of Dwight Howard Sweepstakes, sources tell ESPN
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This like "Survivor: Dwight Howard edition"....
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
2.6 BPG, 101 D RTG, DWS of 2.9, 5.7 block %, 2.0 steal %.

But he isn't an elite defender? Those numbers are better than Chandler, Asik, Dwight. But he's not an elite defender? C'mon.
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Did you really watch a lot of Utah games last year? Be honest.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Did you really watch a lot of Utah games last year? Be honest.
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What would you "quantify" as "a lot"? More than most people, yes.

Jefferson is probably my favorite player to watch in the post. His offensive game is beautiful. Same with Zbo.
 
Either of you care to start expressing your arguments as to why he isn't elite? When the numbers, facts, prove that he is? I am keeping an open mind, but so far I have not seen an argument that is justified by the numbers or facts, just opinions.
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
Either of you care to start expressing your arguments as to why he isn't elite? When the numbers, facts, prove that he is? I am keeping an open mind, but so far I have not seen an argument that is justified by the numbers or facts, just opinions.
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not an allstar. not a league leader. not elite.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Well they also lost their starting C for a bench PF.
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Yeah, WTF is up in Denver? First, they let their GM, 2012-13 NBA Executive of the Year, Masai Ujiri walk to Toronto. Then they fired 2012-13 NBA Coach of the Year. George Karl. Karl led that team to 57 wins. That's seriously overachieving. It seems like that team was constantly giving away talent (Nene, Melo, etc.) to save money, but still managed to win 50+ games year after year under Karl.

Why does a team that won 57 games suddenly dive feet first into tank mode? Sure, they lost to Golden State in the first round, but Golden State was healthy (FINALLY had Bogut back) and the Nuggets weren't. They were missing Galinari and Faried didn't play in game 1, tried to play in the rest of the series, but was far less than 100%. They were forced to start 20-year old Evan Fournier in that series!

So, to build on that 57 win team, they let their GM (of the year) walk and fire their coach (of the year), give away their starting center for a crappy, undersized, below average back-up and let another starter walk for nothing. This is what happens when the owner lets his retarded son have too much influence:

Win 57 game: check!
Let GM Walk: check!
Fire Coach: check!
Trade 23-year old starting center (PER = 17.2, $3 million/yr) for 25-year old back-up power forward (PER = 11.8, $3 million/yr): check!
Refuse to do sign and trade and lose starting SG for nothing: check!

Guess I shouldn't' complain. The single biggest reason the Blazers will make the playoffs in 2014 is not Neil Olshey (or the acquisitions ofC.J. McCollum, Robin Lopez and Thomas Robinson), it's Josh Kroenke . Thanks Josh!!!

BNM
 
Derrick Favors had double figures in rebounds...15 TIMES last season! 15!!!! THAT'S SO FUCKING ELITE BRO. ELITE!!!!! :MARIS61:

played every game in January and February...did not get double figures in rebounds ONCE.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
not an allstar. not a league leader. not elite.
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21 years old. Team didn't give him minutes to solely develop him, as he played behind Millsap and Al Jefferson. Committed to him as the future of the franchise.

I guess Tony Allen isn't an elite defender, because he isn't an all star or league leader. Hmm.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Derrick Favors had double figures in rebounds...15 TIMES last season! 15!!!! THAT'S SO FUCKING ELITE BRO. ELITE!!!!! :MARIS61:

played every game in January and February...did not get double figures in rebounds ONCE.
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Averaged.

20.

Minutes.

Per.

Game.
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
21 years old. Team didn't give him minutes to solely develop him, as he played behind Millsap and Al Jefferson. Committed to him as the future of the franchise.

I guess Tony Allen isn't an elite defender, because he isn't an all star or league leader. Hmm.
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well, except for the fact that he has been first team all defense the last two years...great point.
 
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