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Matthews with 1 first team vote and 2 second team votes... Batum with 1 first team vote and 1 second team vote. Which means someone other than Wheels/Rice voted for Matthews.
 
Isn't voting made public this year? We should be able to see who voted for Harden -- this award (more than most) is based a lot on perception, and the general consensus is that Harden sucks a$$. How does he get two votes?
 
yuyuza1 said:
Isn't voting made public this year? We should be able to see who voted for Harden -- this award (more than most) is based a lot on perception, and the general consensus is that Harden sucks a$$. How does he get two votes?
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Batum's vote came from a team who got chased down on a dunk attempt
 
yuyuza1 said:
Isn't voting made public this year? We should be able to see who voted for Harden -- this award (more than most) is based a lot on perception, and the general consensus is that Harden sucks a$$. How does he get two votes?
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Yeah. I don't know if there's a 13 minute video on how bad a defense Howard plays. lol.
 
so beverley is 2nd team all defense? lillard lit him up
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
LMFAO James Harden got two votes!!! :biglaugh:
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He got a vote for every defensive play he made this year.

In all seriousness whoever gave him those votes needs there ballot taking away.

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Who are the trolls that gave Harden a vote?

:lol:

That's just mean spirited. Everyone knows he can't guard a chair.
 
I'll be interested to see if we change any defensive philosophies. We have some talent on that side of the ball, could get someone ranked higher on these lists next year.

I think we are too predictable on defense, we rarely double, we play straight up, we never gamble for steals. It lets opponents relax and get comfortable initiating their offense. We have some good individual defenders but if the other team see's varieties from our defense next year, they won't always just be able to attack us the same way over and over. Also play the starters a few less minutes, with all of that we could have nice improvements.
 
Come on David Lee got a vote, Harden got two obviously they need to rethink the voting process.

Although outside of a few stupid votes they did a pretty good job overall.
 
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cmeese47 said:
Come on David Lee got a vote, Harden got two obviously they need to rethink the voting process.

Although outside of a few stupid votes they did a pretty good job overall.
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The guy who voted for DLee said it was either an accident or a mistake LOL.
 
BillBrasky said:
I think Babbitt got a vote for 6th man.
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He did and that was even worse than giving Batum or Matthews a vote on this list, which is pretty dumb. I am sorry both are decent defenders but neither is remotely close to being one of the 10 best defenders in basketball.

Is Matthews a better defender than Iguodala, Paul, Conley, Beverly, Butler, Bradley or Allen nope. Therefore he did not deserve a vote.

Is Batum better than George, Lebron, Ibaka, Leonard, Davis or Gibson nope he also did not deserve a vote.

The fact that each got a first team vote is homerism at its worst and whoever cast that ballot should be removed from the balloting and publicly humiliated.
 
Mike Rice voted for Batum Lebron Noah Rubio and Beverly for the first team.
 
cmeese47 said:
He did and that was even worse than giving Batum or Matthews a vote on this list, which is pretty dumb. I am sorry both are decent defenders but neither is remotely close to being one of the 10 best defenders in basketball.

Is Matthews a better defender than Iguodala, Paul, Conley, Beverly, Butler, Bradley or Allen nope. Therefore he did not deserve a vote.

Is Batum better than George, Lebron, Ibaka, Leonard, Davis or Gibson nope he also did not deserve a vote.

The fact that each got a first team vote is homerism at its worst and whoever cast that ballot should be removed from the balloting and publicly humiliated.
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So what about the guy who voted for Harden? Or do you just bash the Blazers whenever you can? :)
 
Strenuus said:
So what about the guy who voted for Harden? Or do you just bash the Blazers whenever you can? :)
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My first comment on this forum was to lampoon David Lee and James Harden getting votes.

Then it was to discuss Mike Rice's homerism strangely enough a guy from MSG network gave Matthews a first team vote. While Rice had him second team, and Batum first.
 
cmeese47 said:
He did and that was even worse than giving Batum or Matthews a vote on this list, which is pretty dumb. I am sorry both are decent defenders but neither is remotely close to being one of the 10 best defenders in basketball.

Is Matthews a better defender than Iguodala, Paul, Conley, Beverly, Butler, Bradley or Allen nope. Therefore he did not deserve a vote.

Is Batum better than George, Lebron, Ibaka, Leonard, Davis or Gibson nope he also did not deserve a vote.

The fact that each got a first team vote is homerism at its worst and whoever cast that ballot should be removed from the balloting and publicly humiliated.
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Top 10 defenders? Maybe not. It's an unfair comparison since both guys usually end up guarding the opponents' better offensive players. They're going to get burned, but the goal is to slow them down as much as you can. I wouldn't say they're merely decent defenders. Voters like Rice who are more familiar with the way the team uses Batum and Matthews on defense are in a better position to cast the vote for either of them. Just because you don't like the way someone voted doesn't mean that you're right and they're wrong or even more qualified than they are to make that determination.
 
BillBrasky said:
Top 10 defenders? Maybe not. It's an unfair comparison since both guys usually end up guarding the opponents' better offensive players. They're going to get burned, but the goal is to slow them down as much as you can. I wouldn't say they're merely decent defenders. Voters like Rice who are more familiar with the way the team uses Batum and Matthews on defense are in a better position to cast the vote for either of them. Just because you don't like the way someone voted doesn't mean that you're right and they're wrong or even more qualified than they are to make that determination.
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Rice has established himself as a crazy homer
 
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