2016 Democratic Platform and Convention

[dviss1]

http://www.jill2016.com/stein_prosecute_clinton_for_reckless_abuses_of_national_security

Love her. I'm voting for Jill.

 

[dviss1]

She pushed a Nobel Peace Prize winner to bomb Libya and Syria. She was part of the decision making process to bomb civilians in Pakistan by drone.

Americans complain about drone strikes and boots on the ground in the same sentence.

I'm just against all war.

 

[Denny Crane]

I found a better "like" image.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I found a better "like" image.

Here is a better one for you.

 

[dviss1]

Here is a better one for you.

Lol! Hand's a different tone than the face!

 

[theprunetang]

I've renounced my status as a Democrat.

I've honestly always been an Independent. It just fits me to be able to sit aside and vote my conscience. Given that, I have voted Democrat 9 times out of 10. I am in a bit of a bind currently. I would never vote for Trump. Never. I just wish there was a better Green party candidate this year. I can't really get enthused for Stein.

 

[Denny Crane]

Here is a better one for you.

You chose the picture, not me.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Hahahahahaha!

Hillary Crane! Hillary Crane!

 

[dviss1]

I've honestly always been an Independent. It just fits me to be able to sit aside and vote my conscience. Given that, I have voted Democrat 9 times out of 10. I am in a bit of a bind currently. I would never vote for Trump. Never. I just wish there was a better Green party candidate this year. I can't really get enthused for Stein.

Stein by FAR is the best candidate IMHO. I'd vote for her over Bernie. What this country needs is Instant Runoff Voting.

Neither the spineless, capitulating Democrats nor the big government Republicans want it.

 

[theprunetang]

Stein by FAR is the best candidate IMHO. I'd vote for her over Bernie. What this country needs is Instant Runoff Voting.

Neither the spineless, capitulating Democrats nor the big government Republicans want it.

I'll get back to you. I'm going to research Stein.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Wait what? Bush took us to war man... Jesus some of y'all.... I'm not voting for Hil-Liar but that statement is just ridiculous.

She voted for the iraq war as a senator which authorised military action.

 

[Denny Crane]

Stein by FAR is the best candidate IMHO. I'd vote for her over Bernie. What this country needs is Instant Runoff Voting.

Neither the spineless, capitulating Democrats nor the big government Republicans want it.

Now maybe you'll understand why I don't want democrats and republicans deciding who gets to spend, and how much, to campaign. Jill would get $0.

 

[dviss1]

She voted for the iraq war as a senator which authorised military action.

Don't get me wrong, I hated that fucking vote and I totally disagreed with it. But blaming Hillary solely for the war is pretty outrageous. Your first post blamed her entirely and that was Bush's War. Based upon the want to go to war: Bush, Cheney, Donald Rumps etc. Not to mention the war machine: Halliburton, Carlyle Group, Boeing, Lockheed Martin. As well as ALL of those who voted in the House/Senate.

It passed the House 296-133.
It passed the Senate 77-23.

The 296 House votes equal roughly 74 Senate votes (429 total House votes).

Hillary, while being a regime change favoring war monger, is about 1/151th responsible for Iraq.

"I'm a war president." - Dubya

 

[dviss1]

Now maybe you'll understand why I don't want democrats and republicans deciding who gets to spend, and how much, to campaign. Jill would get $0.

No. The rules would be for equal funding regardless of parties. We'd also need to change to Instant Runoff Voting. With IRV Parties are obsolete.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Don't get me wrong, I hated that fucking vote and I totally disagreed with it. But blaming Hillary solely for the war is pretty outrageous. Your first post blamed her entirely and that was Bush's War. Based upon the want to go to war: Bush, Cheney, Donald Rumps etc. Not to mention the war machine: Halliburton, Carlyle Group, Boeing, Lockheed Martin. As well as ALL of those who voted in the House/Senate.

It passed the House 296-133.
It passed the Senate 77-23.

The 296 House votes equal roughly 74 Senate votes (429 total House votes).

Hillary, while being a regime change favoring war monger, is about 1/151th responsible for Iraq.

"I'm a war president." - Dubya

Shes more responsible for that muslim dudes son dying in Iraq than Trump, who i believe has long been against intervening in these foreign affairs.

Her calls on most things have been totally wrong. Her record is abysmal. Yet shes the "most qualified candidate" ever? Clinton is just as tied into special interests, she IS the establishment and i dont think she cares if terrorists attack america as long as "she" wins. You can tell Trump HATES the terrorists and the american people.

Hillary just seems so insincere.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Trump Reeling As Clinton Gets 10 Point Democratic Convention Bounce And 15 Point Lead

A new poll taken after the Democratic convention revealed that Hillary Clinton had erased any gains that Trump made after the Republican convention, with a 10 point convention bounce and a 15 point lead.

Among likely voters, Clinton garners 46% support to Trump’s 31%. Libertarian Gary Johnson now captures 7% of the vote, while Jill Stein sits at 2%.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/07...mocratic-convention-bounce-15-point-lead.html

:MARIS61:

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Shes more responsible for that muslim dudes son dying in Iraq than Trump, who i believe has long been against intervening in these foreign affairs.

Her calls on most things have been totally wrong. Her record is abysmal. Yet shes the "most qualified candidate" ever? Clinton is just as tried into special interests, she IS the establishment and i dont think she cares if terrorists attack america as long as "she" wins. You can tell Trump HATES the terrorists and the american people.

Hillary just seems so insincere.

Didn't that guy die in 2006?

 

[dviss1]

Did the research. Can't support Johnson.

He supports the TPP, LESS Wall Street regulation, and abolishing the Dept. Of Education....

Yeah no.

Jill Stein it is.

 

[dviss1]

Shes more responsible for that muslim dudes son dying in Iraq than Trump, who i believe has long been against intervening in these foreign affairs.

Her calls on most things have been totally wrong. Her record is abysmal. Yet shes the "most qualified candidate" ever? Clinton is just as tied into special interests, she IS the establishment and i dont think she cares if terrorists attack america as long as "she" wins. You can tell Trump HATES the terrorists and the american people.

Hillary just seems so insincere.

In what Bizarro world do you live in where Donald Trump does not go to war during his presidency?

Hillary or Trump = Iran War.

 

[Denny Crane]

No. The rules would be for equal funding regardless of parties. We'd also need to change to Instant Runoff Voting. With IRV Parties are obsolete.

Who makes the rules?

The same people who make the rules for the presidential debates?

Jill Stein isn't going to be in those. Neither is Johnson unless he gets a big boost in the polls by then.

I want to start the Denny Crane party, do I get equal funding?

It ain't going to happen the way you say.

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

In what Bizarro world do you live in where Donald Trump does not go to war during his presidency?

Hillary or Trump = Iran War.

Where has he wanted to go to war? He seems more isonationalist

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...rica-first-foreign-policy-isolationist-213873

In his big foreign-policy rollout speech last week, Trump declared it was time “to shake the rust off of America’s foreign policy” and drop American pretensions about remaking the world in our image any longer. Or as he put it, in an obvious reference to the failed invasion of Iraq and intervention in Libya, America should abandon the “dangerous idea that we could make Western democracies out of countries that had no experience or interest in becoming a Western democracy.” Brazenly calling his agenda “America First”—never mind that was the name of the notorious pre-World War II isolationist movement—he also directly challenged the 70 years of bipartisan consensus over the post-World War II global order that America created. He suggested that the world needs America far more than the other way around, and he effectively warned U.S. allies that without a new global deal that demands a kind of tribute paid to Washington for its defense umbrella—he wants them to “prove” they are our friends, he says—he’d walk away from the world’s trade table, so to speak.

“We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism,” Trump said. “The nation-state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony. I am skeptical of international unions that tie us up and bring America down.”



Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...eign-policy-isolationist-213873#ixzz4G0DRh6jb
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[riverman]

Where has he wanted to go to war? He seems more isonationalist

His first menace was with our border neighbor Mexico...then he insulted China..praised two horrible dictators..British Parliament almost blocked him from entering England..it was proposed, not passed, now he's pissed off the French wanting to vet any travelers from there...face it, the world hates the guy..even Putin trash talked him after he asked Russia to interfere with our election. Anybody who doesn't see what a blowhard, ill tempered asshole Trump is must be an anarchistic divisionist. He'll divide this nation to Civil War levels. Muslims cannot enter the US? Does that include our own athletes and soldiers? FUCK TRUMP! When swat teams start painting signs on Hispanic doors and the illegal Mexican witchhunt begins...watch what happens to our police force then. Watch the black market organize an army then. Wake up folks....Trump is a disaster of historic proportions.

 

[theprunetang]

His first menace was with our border neighbor Mexico...then he insulted China..praised two horrible dictators..British Parliament almost blocked him from entering England..it was proposed, not passed, now he's pissed off the French wanting to vet any travelers from there...face it, the world hates the guy..even Putin trash talked him after he asked Russia to interfere with our election. Anybody who doesn't see what a blowhard, ill tempered asshole Trump is must be an anarchistic divisionist. He'll divide this nation to Civil War levels. Muslims cannot enter the US? Does that include our own athletes and soldiers? FUCK TRUMP! When swat teams start painting signs on Hispanic doors and the illegal Mexican witchhunt begins...watch what happens to our police force then. Watch the black market organize an army then. Wake up folks....Trump is a disaster of historic proportions.

Ding ding ding!

 

[riverman]

Just to add to the dirt bag's record, he applied for 5 military deferments as a student and never served in a time of war...now he wants to be commander and chief of the armed forces and insult decorated generals and war hero vets. It doesn't take a genius to see this guy's con.

 

[Denny Crane]

His first menace was with our border neighbor Mexico...then he insulted China..praised two horrible dictators..British Parliament almost blocked him from entering England..it was proposed, not passed, now he's pissed off the French wanting to vet any travelers from there...face it, the world hates the guy..even Putin trash talked him after he asked Russia to interfere with our election. Anybody who doesn't see what a blowhard, ill tempered asshole Trump is must be an anarchistic divisionist. He'll divide this nation to Civil War levels. Muslims cannot enter the US? Does that include our own athletes and soldiers? FUCK TRUMP! When swat teams start painting signs on Hispanic doors and the illegal Mexican witchhunt begins...watch what happens to our police force then. Watch the black market organize an army then. Wake up folks....Trump is a disaster of historic proportions.

Fuck Trump.

What a lousy choice we have between the two major parties. One undemocratic and one xenophobic.

 

[Denny Crane]

Just to add to the dirt bag's record, he applied for 5 military deferments as a student and never served in a time of war...now he wants to be commander and chief of the armed forces and insult decorated generals and war hero vets. It doesn't take a genius to see this guy's con.

Bill Clinton didn't serve. Obama didn't serve. Hiliar didn't serve.

 

[riverman]

Bill Clinton didn't serve. Obama didn't serve. Hiliar didn't serve.

absolutely right...I don't remember them judging military leaders or war vets with a tough guy bluster though....all three of those people have worked with the military and made tough decisions concerning nat'l security but Trump has more of a beauty pageant, University scandal background..he's not even in the same class as the 3 you mention..not even the same universe. Again....fuck Trump. I have no interest in any of his ideas, thoughts or plans. He's a demonstrable asshole.

 

[riverman]

After the DNC I really wished Joe Biden was on the ticket...he'd have my vote