Event 2017 NBA draft thread - April 2017 edition

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Sarni said:
BTW discussion from another thread, how high we can move by offering all our picks. Well, IMO not that high. You need to look at top 10 draft teams and see which of them would prefer to have multiple young players rather than one better classed talent.

Boston? Not a chance, they still have Nets pick next year and Smart and Brown to develop.

Suns? 76ers? Lakers? Timberwolves? Their whole roster is young players. No chance.

Knicks badly need a potential star. Rotation players they can get in the free agency.

That leaves is with Dallas and Sacramento as trade partners. Dallas need to fill their roster with players so maybe. They will have no. 9 so that's already after all 'superstars' like Ball and Fulrz have been drafted. Kings will be picking twice in top 10 so again, maybe. Detroit and Charlotte who come next would probably do it but is there a point for us to package two picks that are not that low for a no. 11 or 12? Unless we have specific player on mind and he is still available when it comes, we don't do that.
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I would say if perhaps a big like Zach Collins was actually still available at 11 or 12 and we really liked him we might try to move up
 
Sarni said:
No chance in hell we get a shot at Josh Jackson. He will still go top 6.
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Yeah, he would have had to have escalated his stupidity a lot more in this situation for us to have had a chance at him, and I'm not sure most of us would still want to draft him if that was the case.
 
Zach Collins by the numbers vs. Robert Williams (a possible top-10 pick next year):

ZC: 23.2 PPG | 13.6 RPG | 4.1 BPG (9.8 blk%) | 31 PER -- PER40
RW: 18.3 PPG | 12.6 RPG | 3.8 BPG (10.5 blk%) | 27.2 PER -- PER40

I'm surprised that he's staying in the draft but to have a shot at Collins you're going to have to trade up to around #6/7 -- IMO he's going to be a riser on draft day with Markkanen dropping.
 
Fez Von Savage said:
Zach Collins by the numbers vs. Robert Williams (a possible top-10 pick next year):

ZC: 23.2 PPG | 13.6 RPG | 4.1 BPG (9.8 blk%) | 31 PER -- PER40
RW: 18.3 PPG | 12.6 RPG | 3.8 BPG (10.5 blk%) | 27.2 PER -- PER40

I'm surprised that he's staying in the draft but to have a shot at Collins you're going to have to trade up to around #6/7 -- IMO he's going to be a riser on draft day with Markkanen dropping.
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He won't go in top 6 or 7. Too many top point guards talents with possibility of going to teams who desperately need them. Fultz, Jackson, Tatum, Ball, Smith, Monk and Fox have to go ahead of Collins IMO. Not necessarily because they are better talent but because the teams will be looking for that type of talent. The likes of Minnesota or Philadelphia hardly need bigs.
 
I have Collins landing between 9 and 13. I think by the draft his top end won't move up but his bottom will. 9 - 11.
 
Just to be clear, we are talking about the WHITE CENTER born in LAS VEGAS NV. USA, correct?
 
KeepOnRollin said:
I have Collins landing between 9 and 13. I think by the draft his top end won't move up but his bottom will. 9 - 11.
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I think workouts will matter a good bit with him but unless there is a bad surprise I agree with 9-11
 
Mediocre Man said:
Seen him play. He looks like an average at best NBA player.
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I could see how he's give you that impression.

He's not a flashy player and needs to add strength--he's phyiscal/tough but still can get moved in different situations--but if he can both pop (with 3pt range) and roll out pnr, be a post up option on switches plus defend space and the rim, that's a pretty valuable player down the road.
 
JDC said:
I could see how he's give you that impression. He's not a flashy player and needs to add strength (he's phyiscal/tough but still can get moved in different situations) but if he can both pop and roll out pnr, be a post up option on switches plus defend space and the rim, that's a pretty valuable player down the road.
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Sounds like another Zag who just had a rough year in OKC. Sabonis.
 
JDC said:
I could see how he's give you that impression.

He's not a flashy player and needs to add strength--he's phyiscal/tough but still can get moved in different situations--but if he can both pop (with 3pt range) and roll out pnr, be a post up option on switches plus defend space and the rim, that's a pretty valuable player down the road.
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I think he's as 'flashy' as an 18 year old, 7-footer as you'll find.

 
JDC said:
Better size/length, more fluid athlete plus better defending the rim would be the main differences between the two.
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BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Sounds like another Zag who just had a rough year in OKC. Sabonis.
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2 completely different players. Sabonis is an energy/hustle player. Collins is a legit 7 footer, with great foot work and a great shot blocker.
 
I know it was already mentioned in the video but I agree that Collins has some McHale to him. He is a bit of a throwback player (which in my mind is a good thing).
 
MickZagger said:
Watch a Collins highlight tape and tell me what won't translate to the NBA. He's not some stiff. He's a big of skill.
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Like Meyers was. Like Kelly Olynik was. Like Cody Zeller was. He'll be a role player at best kinda skill
 
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