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I just checked 6 or 8 mocks, and each of them has Bazley available, and us passing on him. A couple had him in the 1st round, though.

edit: Interesting note: Philly has pick #24 and FOUR 2nd rounders this year.
 
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Wizard Mentor said:
I just check 6 or 8 mocks, and each of them has Bazley available, and us passing on him. A couple had him in the 1st round, though.

edit: Interesting note: Philly has pick #24 and FOUR 2nd rounders this year.
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I wonder how many of those 2nds they would give for the #25?
 
tester551 said:
I want their #33/34 picks. I've thrown that idea out a few times.

It would be a home run if Portland could get Chuma & Bazley with those picks
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Or more likely we trade back and get neither when we could've had one of them at 25.
 
oldmangrouch said:
I wonder how many of those 2nds they would give for the #25?
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They absolutely need all those seconds. They barely have a roster for next season and if they extend Butler, Harris and Redick, or even just two of them, they will have no cap space to do anything in free agency.

They can realistically find job for five rookies.

A trade partner for second round picks could be Atlanta but they would probably prefer future assets or even money rather than our #25. They have three seconds to go with three firsts.
 
1. Pelicans - Zion Williamson
2. Grizzlies- Ja Morant
3. Knicks - RJ Barrett
4. Lakers - Coby White
5. Cavaliers - DeAndre Hunter
6. Suns - Darius Garland
7. Bulls - Cameron Reddish
8. Hawks - Sekou Doumbouya
9. Wizards - Jaxson Hayes
10. Hawks - Mfiondu Kabengele
11. Timberwolves - Jarrett Culver
12. Hornets - Nassir Little
13. Heat - Romeo Langford
14. Celtics - Bruno Fernando
15. Pistons - KZ Okpala
16. Magic - Bol Bol
17. Hawks - Nickeil Alexander-Walker
18. Pacers - Rui Hachimura
19. Spurs - Matisse Thybulle
20. Celtics - Brandon Clarke
21. Thunder - PJ Washington
22. Celtics - Tyler Herro
23. Jazz - Nicolas Claxton
24. Sixers - Keldon Johnson
25. Blazers - Dylan Windler
26. Cavaliers - Goga Bitadze
27. Nets - Daniel Gafford
28. Warriors - Kevin Porter
29. Spurs - Luka Samanic
30. Bucks - Naz Reid
 
Sarni said:
They absolutely need all those seconds. They barely have a roster for next season and if they extend Butler, Harris and Redick, or even just two of them, they will have no cap space to do anything in free agency.

They can realistically find job for five rookies.
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I am going to disagree with this. If they don't trade one pick then they are picking a Euro who they don't intend to bring over right away, imo. Not all 5 rookies would not be ready to contribute. There are going to be many, many free agents this summer that deserve more than the minimum but only get that. They can pick up a contributor (or two or 3) for the minimum that will be in the top 10 of their rotation.
 
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I'm curious about something. Pretty much every mock I have seen has Samanic rated higher than Bazley, but likely to be available at 25. Why do so many folks here rate Bazley higher? They are both long-term projects with (theoretical) high upsides - but at least Samanic has shown he can compete against high level competition.
 
oldmangrouch said:
I'm curious about something. Pretty much every mock I have seen has Samanic rated higher than Bazley, but likely to be available at 25. Why do so many folks here rate Bazley higher? They are both long-term projects with (theoretical) high upsides - but at least Samanic has shown he can compete against high level competition.
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Watch Bazely play and you should have your answer.
 
GhostOfPGA said:
1. Pelicans - Zion Williamson
2. Grizzlies- Ja Morant
3. Knicks - RJ Barrett
4. Lakers - Coby White
5. Cavaliers - DeAndre Hunter
6. Suns - Darius Garland
7. Bulls - Cameron Reddish
8. Hawks - Sekou Doumbouya
9. Wizards - Jaxson Hayes
10. Hawks - Mfiondu Kabengele
11. Timberwolves - Jarrett Culver
12. Hornets - Nassir Little
13. Heat - Romeo Langford
14. Celtics - Bruno Fernando
15. Pistons - KZ Okpala
16. Magic - Bol Bol
17. Hawks - Nickeil Alexander-Walker
18. Pacers - Rui Hachimura
19. Spurs - Matisse Thybulle
20. Celtics - Brandon Clarke
21. Thunder - PJ Washington
22. Celtics - Tyler Herro
23. Jazz - Nicolas Claxton
24. Sixers - Keldon Johnson
25. Blazers - Dylan Windler
26. Cavaliers - Goga Bitadze
27. Nets - Daniel Gafford
28. Warriors - Kevin Porter
29. Spurs - Luka Samanic
30. Bucks - Naz Reid
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I will eat my hat if Culver falls to 11. If Atlanta can pick him they will 100%.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
I am going to disagree with this. If they don't trade one pick then they are picking a Euro who they don't intend to bring over right away, imo. Not all 5 rookies would not be ready to contribute. There are going to be many, many free agents this summer that deserve more than the minimum but only get that. They can pick up a contributor (or two or 3) for the minimum that will be in the top 10 of their rotation.
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If you draft 5 rookies with low picks at least 2 will never be ready to contribute.
 
oldmangrouch said:
I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say level of competition matters. Euro-league is a wee bit better than American high school ball.
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My eye test with players who play against lesser competition has proven to be solid in the past.
 
oldmangrouch said:
I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say level of competition matters. Euro-league is a wee bit better than American high school ball.
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To me, the Euro thing makes Samanic more ready to play making him stand out at events like the combine. He's definitely someone we should consider at 25.

I always come back to what strategy you want to implore at the end of the 1st round. Bazley has the skill set to be a superstar if he ever develops. If you hit on a player like that without having to use a lottery pick it could greatly impact our trajectory to both competing for a title while we still have Dame and building a competitive team after Dame starts to wind down his career with guys like Simons, Collins, and Bazley. Of course Bazley is more likely to be a huge bust too who just looks good in workouts.

Samanic's best case is a solid double that mayyyyyyyyybe gets stretched out to a triple if everything goes perfectly. I'd put him in the Olshey bargain value category.

So what would you rather do?

Swing for the fences knowing if you make contact it's going over the fence but you could strike out or just put the ball in play so you don't get out?
 
hoopsjock said:
To me, the Euro thing makes Samanic more ready to play making him stand out at events like the combine. He's definitely someone we should consider at 25.

I always come back to what strategy you want to implore at the end of the 1st round. Bazley has the skill set to be a superstar if he ever develops. If you hit on a player like that without having to use a lottery pick it could greatly impact our trajectory to both competing for a title while we still have Dame and building a competitive team after Dame starts to wind down his career with guys like Simons, Collins, and Bazley. Of course Bazley is more likely to be a huge bust too who just looks good in workouts.

Samanic's best case is a solid double that mayyyyyyyyybe gets stretched out to a triple if everything goes perfectly. I'd put him in the Olshey bargain value category.

So what would you rather do?

Swing for the fences knowing if you make contact it's going over the fence but you could strike out or just put the ball in play so you don't get out?
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Dunno, but there is something really enticing about the Simons/Collins/Skal/Bazley combo. Skill, defense, athleticism for days.
 
hoopsjock said:
To me, the Euro thing makes Samanic more ready to play making him stand out at events like the combine. He's definitely someone we should consider at 25.

I always come back to what strategy you want to implore at the end of the 1st round. Bazley has the skill set to be a superstar if he ever develops. If you hit on a player like that without having to use a lottery pick it could greatly impact our trajectory to both competing for a title while we still have Dame and building a competitive team after Dame starts to wind down his career with guys like Simons, Collins, and Bazley. Of course Bazley is more likely to be a huge bust too who just looks good in workouts.

Samanic's best case is a solid double that mayyyyyyyyybe gets stretched out to a triple if everything goes perfectly. I'd put him in the Olshey bargain value category.

So what would you rather do?

Swing for the fences knowing if you make contact it's going over the fence but you could strike out or just put the ball in play so you don't get out?
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OK, I see your point. Randomly reading scouting reports at 3 AM, Samanic was starting to sound interesting. :cheers:
 
BonesJones said:
My eye test with players who play against lesser competition has proven to be solid in the past.
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Fair enough. I was just having one of those nights I couldn't sleep because of pain and couldn't take anything because I have too much to get done today. Reading about players on-line at 3 AM is not a sound scouting tactic! :blush:
 
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