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JDC said:
Beating the dead horse here, but a forward who can defend, shoot and make decisions in 4 on 3's is who I want.

Grant Williams and Darius Bazley both have the potential to do that.
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Think Williams better than Swanagan? I hope he can jump & run better.
 
I say screw the draft and make a trade cause this team needs a proven player along side of Dame , CJ and Nurk -- i love how Blazer fans heck any fan base falls in love with a young kid and thinks they will be the answer -- Spoiler alert -- unless they are a top 5 to 10 pick they are not the answer at least for 2 to 3 years. This is the NO BS answer and it's the truth -- next .....
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
I say screw the draft and make a trade cause this team needs a proven player along side of Dame , CJ and Nurk -- i love how Blazer fans heck any fan base falls in love with a young kid and thinks they will be the answer -- Spoiler alert -- unless they are a top 5 to 10 pick they are not the answer at least for 2 to 3 years. This is the NO BS answer and it's the truth -- next .....
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Stupid San Antonio! They traded for Kawhi Leonard in the middle of Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker's prime. Idiots.
 
Hoopguru said:
He and Thybulle are my picks. If they get one of those two, super!
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With the success the Raptors had in the Finals going zone, a player like Thybulle might be a perfect fit for the new trend of defenses since UW played a lot of zone. His anticipation in the passing lanes is second to none. I don't think he'll be a star but could easily see him having a Thabo-type of career and at 25, you take that to the bank.
 
Hoopguru said:
Think Williams better than Swanagan? I hope he can jump & run better.
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240 at 5.4% body fat. Quicker off the floor. Much better changing ends and sliding laterally when he sits down. Needs to be more consistent with his technique and has the tendency to over help and bit on fakes at times, but his self awareness and physical tools give me little doubt that he'll be a positive defender with a decent amount of versatility.

Offensively I think he plays much smarter and is more likely to be a consistent threat from 3. Likely a low usage guy, but can beat a switch, make smart plays in 4 on 3's and hit spot 3's.
 
JDC said:
Beating the dead horse here, but a forward who can defend, shoot and make decisions in 4 on 3's is who I want.

Grant Williams and Darius Bazley both have the potential to do that.
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Williams is too undersized (and doesnt have the athleticism) to effectively guard PFs or Cs inside. Hes not quick enough laterally to stay in front of SFs. Its doubtful that he'll be a good defender at the NBA level.

He also isnt a good shoote either. Shot less tham 30% from 3 in his college career. He doesnt have the creativity or quickness to create off the dribble either.

This guy shouldnt be a top 40 pick.
 
craigehlo said:
Eric Paschall is the next Draymond. Nice 3 point shot, good defender, solid passer and has nice leaping ability. Has been a winner at Nova and could play minutes right away.

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His feet seem slow to me, but maybe he'll be fine.
 
BonesJones said:
Williams is too undersized (and doesnt have the athleticism) to effectively guard PFs or Cs inside. Hes not quick enough laterally to stay in front of SFs. Its doubtful that he'll be a good defender at the NBA level.

He also isnt a good shoote either. Shot less tham 30% from 3 in his college career. He doesnt have the creativity or quickness to create off the dribble either.

This guy shouldnt be a top 40 pick.
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Small sample.

There's plenty of indicators that are positive towards him being a good NBA shooter.

But who really knows. All I know is that he dominated college as a sophomore aged player, is a smart player on both ends, physically and mentally ready to play, and has skills that fit with our team and overall profile well in smaller roles on good teams.
 
JDC said:
Small sample.

There's plenty of indicators that are positive towards him being a good NBA shooter.

But who really knows. All I know is that he dominated college as a sophomore aged player, is a smart player on both ends, physically and mentally ready to play, and has skills that fit with our team and overall profile well in smaller roles on good teams.
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So did Caleb Swanigan.

I'm confused... He's physically ready? He's very undersized and not athletic enough. How is he ready in that regard?

Skills that fit our team? The biggest need for our forwards is 3-and-D players and it's highly doubtful he'll be able to do either all that well.

What indicators show him as being a good NBA shooter, if he can't even manage to shoot 30% in college and barely shot over 1 three a game? I'm actually curious to hear what indicators you're thinking of, because Caleb Swanigan showed much more promise as a shooter than Williams coming out of college.

Smarts can only get you so far. Not denying he's a smart player, but IQ can't make up for not being athletic enough, or big enough, or a good enough shooter.

With that being said, he'd be a great player in Europe, just like Swanigan.
 
Hoopguru said:
Wild thought on my part, but I was thinking they will purchase another second rounding in memory of PA? As long as sis owns the team she could see this as a way to continue to allow his influence in the draft which he always coveted.
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Heard on the radio we're looking at/there's buyers for our first and a 2020 expiring for a second + filler.
 
BonesJones said:
So did Caleb Swanigan.

I'm confused... He's physically ready? He's very undersized and not athletic enough. How is he ready in that regard?

Skills that fit our team? The biggest need for our forwards is 3-and-D players and it's highly doubtful he'll be able to do either all that well.

What indicators show him as being a good NBA shooter, if he can't even manage to shoot 30% in college and barely shot over 1 three a game? I'm actually curious to hear what indicators you're thinking of, because Caleb Swanigan showed much more promise as a shooter than Williams coming out of college.

Smarts can only get you so far. Not denying he's a smart player, but IQ can't make up for not being athletic enough, or big enough, or a good enough shooter.

With that being said, he'd be a great player in Europe, just like Swanigan.
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I've made my case for him multiple times so you can likely find my answer to each of your points by searching my previous posts.
 
Espn+ mock has us taking ty Jerome right now

How pissed would most posters be? Lol
 
Chances are good that Bazley will be off the board by the time Blazers pick.
 
craigehlo said:
Eric Paschall is the next Draymond. Nice 3 point shot, good defender, solid passer and has nice leaping ability. Has been a winner at Nova and could play minutes right away.

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Jay Wright coaches ELITE level defense and recruits players who can play ELITE level defense.
 
JDC said:
240 at 5.4% body fat. Quicker off the floor. Much better changing ends and sliding laterally when he sits down. Needs to be more consistent with his technique and has the tendency to over help and bit on fakes at times, but his self awareness and physical tools give me little doubt that he'll be a positive defender with a decent amount of versatility.

Offensively I think he plays much smarter and is more likely to be a consistent threat from 3. Likely a low usage guy, but can beat a switch, make smart plays in 4 on 3's and hit spot 3's.
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I think, if both are available, you take Bazely 100/100 times over Grant. :dunno:
 
If Bazley went to Syracuse instead of sitting out I wonder if we all would still like him, considering Syracuse players fuckin suck in the nba.
 
dviss1 said:
I think, if both are available, you take Bazely 100/100 times over Grant. :dunno:
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If you don't think Grant is a shooter in the NBA, I could agree with this (maybe not to the same level though).

But I'm pretty high on both. Just for very different reasons. Bazley definitely has more traditional star upside, but I think Grant has the unique set of ancillary skills and a good deal of shooting upside to be the star role player that every championship level team needs.

And I understand the viewpoint of "you can sign someone Williams, but only get a chance at players like Bazely in the draft", but I think if Williams hits, he's not just your run of the mill MLE type role player.
 
craigehlo said:
By all means, let's draft a Rich Paul client. We can invest time and money into developing Bazely and watch him force a trade to LA as soon he has any leverage.
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LOL at all the Rich Paul haters...

Most of you have probably NEVER spoke up or said much negative about agents until him. He is doing nothing that hasn't been done before except being more public about it.

He's just young and black while doing it.

Being young, black, and outspoken causes public ire. Lots are mad just because got into being an agent by having a strong work ethic and a good relationship with Lebron.

Athletes for the most part cannot control their destinies. Play where you're drafted, play where you're traded to. People are hating because players are exhibiting a level of control on where they get to play.

I have some glasses for y'all:

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Cases in point:

Kobe demanded a trade from the Lakers. Any talk about his agent? Shaq demanded a trade FROM LA to MIA. I don't even know his agent's name off top...
Kyrie Irving demanded a trade and people talked MAD SHIT about HIM and how stupid his decision was. Nothing about his agent who he just fired...
What about when Jimmy Butler demanded a trade? Folks were CLAMORING for us to get him... Not one word about his agent...
Paul George's trade demand was a "gut punch" in Kevin Prichard's words. "Paul George delivered "gut punch" to Pacers was the headline, NOT his agents. No mention of his agent in here either...
No one was really talking about Kawhi's agent when his infamous trade request was demanded. Nope. Only talking shit about Kawhi who made a GOOD CHOICE...
Le'Veon Bell sat out a whole NFL season (more than likely at the behest of his agent). Crickets about his agent.

I could go on but why:

Here's a list of very famous NBA players who demanded trades. NO TALK about Agents.

Chris Paul is now demanding a trade out of HOU. Is anyone gonna complain about his Agent?? Hell the fuck no. People in here WANT to see that breakup...

The selective outrage about Rich Paul is just that...
 
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VanillaGorilla said:
But.. his 3pt% increased every year..
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So. :dunno:

Free throw percentage is the indicator as to whether his shooting will transfer to the next level.

This is the indicator that scouts use.

College 3 is nothing like NBA. But the free throw is.
 
Admiral isn't a passer, 6'4" in socks, a poor team defender and has shaky movement skills on the perimeter.

If he's an elite shooter and cleans up his shot selection, he may be a low end rotation player.

He's going to get his opportunity to succeed or fail though. His work ethic and personality is going to endear him to whichever team(s) he ends up on.
 
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