OT 2019 NFL Draft Thread (1 Viewer)

[BonesJones]

LeVeon Bell
Todd Gurley
Melvin Gordon
Ezekial Elliott
Christian McCaffrey
Alvin Kamara
Saquon Barkley
James Connor
Joe Mixon
David Johnson
Leonard Fournette

Are all better than Connor. Could make the argument for a few others.

 

[BonesJones]

Damn, I thought the Seahawks didn't need a WR?!

 

[GhostOfPGA]

But your using "split carries" and "missed games" but "was still 5th in rushing yards" to try and make him sound better as if he didn't carry the ball as much as he did. That's a typical biased-fan argument. He's definitely not a top 10 RB.

He carried the ball a ton I’m not disputing that, but he did while still racking up 4.7 yards a carry. His production was fantastic and he put up some highlight reel runs. I’m just going to stop this debate, it’s going nowhere.

 

[GhostOfPGA]

Damn, I thought the Seahawks didn't need a WR?!

No one said that lol

But damn, the freak lands in Seattle huge boom or bust potential.

 

[BonesJones]

Let's go Cowboys!!

Random thought. I like the way the NFL uses ex-players etc to announce the draft pick.

I'd like to see that used at the NBA draft too, seems to really change the vibe. There's Soo much room to grow that event.

I'm not sure the commish would let go of his big day in the sun though.

That's all. Carry on.

The NBA will have a full G-League system at some point. A true minor leagues. At that point, I expect them to go to a 4, maybe even 5 round draft. Would allow more rounds for that.

Day One: 1st & 2nd Rounds
Day Two: 3rd, 4th, & 5th Rounds

That'd be a lot of fun, actually. Look at how the Spurs have used the G-League to develop/find guys like Derrick White, Bryn Forbes, etc. The Nuggets for guys like Torrey Craig, Monte Morris, etc. Royce O'Neal for Utah. Fred VanVleet for Toronto. Khem Birch for Orlando. It's becoming more and more viable in terms of a developmental tool.

 

[BonesJones]

He carried the ball a ton I’m not disputing that, but he did while still racking up 4.7 yards a carry. His production was fantastic and he put up some highlight reel runs. I’m just going to stop this debate, it’s going nowhere.

4.7 isn't good for a Top 10 RB.

 

[BonesJones]

Niners stocking up on WRs! I like it. Gotta get Garoppolo some talent!

 

[Lukee]

No one said that lol

But damn, the freak lands in Seattle huge boom or bust potential.

STEAL

 

[GhostOfPGA]

STEAL

We will see, I’m optimistic but he isn’t a fluid athlete, more of a run straight and jump guy. Great red zone potential.

 

[Lukee]

We will see, I’m optimistic but he isn’t a fluid athlete, more of a run straight and jump guy. Great red zone potential.

Gotta be optimistic

 

[GhostOfPGA]

4.7 isn't good for a Top 10 RB.

Elliot 4.7, Gurley 4.9, Mixon 4.9, Peterson 4.2, Connor 4.5, Kamara 4.6...

 

[BonesJones]

Elliot 4.7, Gurley 4.9, Mixon 4.9, Peterson 4.2, Connor 4.5, Kamara 4.6...

Oh, so it's average for a top 10 RB?

 

[GhostOfPGA]

Oh, so it's average for a top 10 RB?

It’s good on high workloads.

 

[BonesJones]

Elliot 4.7, Gurley 4.9, Mixon 4.9, Peterson 4.2, Connor 4.5, Kamara 4.6...

AP isn't a top 10 RB. I said "4.7YPC isn't good for a Top 10 RB" and out of the top 10 RBs you listed, they had an average of a little over 4.7YPC.

So it's average. Exactly.

Also, Connor and Kamara are 10 times better pass catches than Connor.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Id love to be a average top 10 nfl running back lol

 

[BonesJones]

It’s good on high workloads.

So now he has a "high workload" instead of "splitting carries and missing games". Funny how you didn't reference his "high workload" when you stated how he was 5th in rushing yards.

 

[BonesJones]

Id love to be a average top 10 nfl running back lol

Except he's not, because he literally can't catch the ball. I listed 11 RBs that are at least a full tier above him. Seattle fans get carried away with average starters.

 

[GhostOfPGA]

AP isn't a top 10 RB. I said "4.7YPC isn't good for a Top 10 RB" and out of the top 10 RBs you listed, they had an average of a little over 4.7YPC.

So it's average. Exactly.

Also, Connor and Kamara are 10 times better pass catches than Connor.

So he’s an average top 10 back? Based on last season, that’s accurate. He isn’t a pass catcher, but then again our offense doesn’t utilize out of the backfield RB routes, they are used for an extra blocker for our offensive line.

 

[GhostOfPGA]

So now he has a "high workload" instead of "splitting carries and missing games". Funny how you didn't reference his "high workload" when you stated how he was 5th in rushing yards.

I’ve said this many times, Seattle ran the ball a TON as a team. You’re twisting words right now and being rather defensive for no reason.

He DID split carries AND had a high workload. He had 247 carries, the team had 536. He accounted for 46.2% of carries on the team.

For further reference the best back in the NFL, Elliott had 304 carries his team had 439.. that’s 69.2% of the carries.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Except he's not, because he literally can't catch the ball. I listed 11 RBs that are at least a full tier above him. Seattle fans get carried away with average starters.

Im not a seattle fan in the slightest.

 

[Lukee]

ruined my night

 

[GhostOfPGA]

ruined my night

I heard his surgery was rough, really hope he gives it one more go but if he’s risking life altering complications I hope he hangs them up and enters the ring of honor quickly. Love Angry Doug!

 

[Dom McBlazer]

As a Steelers fan --I probably shouldn't have shared that on this board lol--I'm OK with the Bush Jr. pick.

Unlike the Steelers to trade up, but he fills a big need and strengths fit into today's NFL.

A certain game vs a certain team who many on this board may be a fan of.

Hmmmmmm. I thought you were talking about another bird team.

 

[hoopsjock]

@BonesJones Apparently DK Metcalf's draft interview at the combine with the 49ers was really bad. I don't know if altercation is the right word but I guess it got kind of awkwardly heated. From what I read he was pretty much taken off their board. I was kind of happy about that given he hasn't really done anything other than be a physical specimen but wouldn't have minded taken a chance on him where the Seahawks did.

Hurd is kind of the same though. Physical specimen without big time production. I thought they needed more of a possession type receiver instead of a small guy like Deebo so while I'm fine with drafting Deebo I'm also glad that Hurd is 6'5" to get some height out there.

 

[BonesJones]

@BonesJones Apparently DK Metcalf's draft interview at the combine with the 49ers was really bad. I don't know if altercation is the right word but I guess it got kind of awkwardly heated. From what I read he was pretty much taken off their board. I was kind of happy about that given he hasn't really done anything other than be a physical specimen but wouldn't have minded taken a chance on him where the Seahawks did.

Hurd is kind of the same though. Physical specimen without big time production. I thought they needed more of a possession type receiver instead of a small guy like Deebo so while I'm fine with drafting Deebo I'm also glad that Hurd is 6'5" to get some height out there.

I'm just glad that the Niners have finally prioritized WR in the past two years. Outside of Crabtree, I never felt like they did.

 

[Hoopguru]

Elliot 4.7, Gurley 4.9, Mixon 4.9, Peterson 4.2, Connor 4.5, Kamara 4.6...

baby ran a 4.7 and a 4.4

 

[hoopsjock]

I'm just glad that the Niners have finally prioritized WR in the past two years. Outside of Crabtree, I never felt like they did.

Last time they took a receiver high was terrible though when they took AJ Jenkins in the 1st round in 2012.

Don't forget about Goodwin when talking about our receiver core too. He's developed into a good WR.

 

[hoopsjock]

I'm just glad that the Niners have finally prioritized WR in the past two years. Outside of Crabtree, I never felt like they did.

I was so mad the year we took LaMichael James in the 2nd round, not that he's a receiver. I've seen LaMichael the last 3 weeks as his team has played either before or after mine and he looks sooooo tiny.

 

[Dom McBlazer]

I'm just glad that the Niners have finally prioritized WR in the past two years. Outside of Crabtree, I never felt like they did.

I shutter when I see that name....

 

[Hobbesarable]

I see my Packers selected a TE in the 3rd round. We might see some 3 TE formations this season. Hopefully this guy will be an improvement. Time will tell.