Politics 2020 Debate part 2

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calvin natt said:
Ya. I get it. As I said they should be communicating their policies and agenda. And attacking Trump. Not fucking Obama’s policies who 100% of democrats love.
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I understand the more ‘strategic’ approach you’re wanting out of the candidates. It makes sense. It’s just not what I care about personally. I want to hear someone talk about real shit. Apparently that’s not what wins elections though, so your approach is probably more realistic in getting a Democrat in office. Albeit a lame ass Democrat.
 
jonnyboy said:
Joe Scarborough and his comrades at MSNBC have literally scared Democrat voters away in droves.
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What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

You either:
  1. Made that up.
  2. Got it from a bullshit source
 
calvin natt said:
Ya. I get it. As I said they should be communicating their policies and agenda. And attacking Trump. Not fucking Obama’s policies who 100% of democrats love.
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No, 100% of liberals do not love Obama's policies of:

Drone strikes
Mass deportations
Continuation of Bush Tax Cuts
Capitulation on the public option
The Surge
Did basically nothing for black people except be black

I could go on but you get the point. Obama wasn't some goddamn socialist.

He was Republican Lite.
 
barfo said:
Maybe. If Trump thinks he'll lose the debate, there's a good chance he just refuses to debate.

barfo
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Nah, he's too much of a thin skinned man baby to refuse a poke in the chest.
 
jonnyboy said:
I understand the more ‘strategic’ approach you’re wanting out of the candidates. It makes sense. It’s just not what I care about personally. I want to hear someone talk about real shit. Apparently that’s not what wins elections though, so your approach is probably more realistic in getting a Democrat in office. Albeit a lame ass Democrat.
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Your party is full of SHIT. Plain and simple.

We need to do something about climate change!

Right. The fuck. NOW.

The Democrats are the only ones trying to do something about it.
 
jonnyboy said:
Obama criticisms are relevant in the healthcare debate. His healthcare plan was not successful and certain candidates were making calls to expand on it.
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Your party stripped shit out of it.

It doesn't go far enough and THAT'S the problem with it.
 
dviss1 said:
No he's not. Biden is done. Mark my words.

He sucks as a debater and got his ass handed to him in 2/2 debates.
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I hope so. I dont want him as the nominee
 
Chris Craig said:
I hope so. I dont want him as the nominee
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The alien from Fire In The Sky is not gonna be president:

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Agree @dviss1. Old Joe isn't going to win the nomination because the rationale for it - that he's best equipped to take it to the moron, err, Trump - has been proved flatly wrong in the first two debates. Trump would crush him.

That's why the women, who are the strongest so far, look most likely to get the nod - Warren, Harris, or, surprisingly, Tulsi.
 
Stevenson said:
Agree @dviss1. Old Joe isn't going to win the nomination because the rationale for it - that he's best equipped to take it to the moron, err, Trump - has been proved flatly wrong in the first two debates. Trump would crush him.

That's why the women, who are the strongest so far, look most likely to get the nod - Warren, Harris, or, surprisingly, Tulsi.
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I understand that polling #'s favor (as of right now) Biden over Trump, but I think that Trump would just spin whoever he debates against, no matter how he does, as a win for him. Biden has done meh at best, against a bunch of no names and a few well known people.

He's a stammering old man who should have run in 16, and now his window is closing.
 
dviss1 said:
Your party stripped shit out of it.

It doesn't go far enough and THAT'S the problem with it.
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It was trash. Written by private healthcare executives. A fucking money grab.
 
Stevenson said:
Agree @dviss1. Old Joe isn't going to win the nomination because the rationale for it - that he's best equipped to take it to the moron, err, Trump - has been proved flatly wrong in the first two debates. Trump would crush him.

That's why the women, who are the strongest so far, look most likely to get the nod - Warren, Harris, or, surprisingly, Tulsi.
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Tulsi was HOT AF tonight.... I got a crush...

Too bad I don't agree with her on a few fronts. I wouldn't vote for her in the primary.
 
jonnyboy said:
No
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Right... You voted for the party who wanted to keep pre existing conditions in place.

Bro you have no legs in the argument.

Romney passed that bill before Obama did. Just in a state level.

REPUBLICANS (Specifically The Heritage Foundation) wrote the ACA.
 
MarAzul said:
He was an exceptional punter.
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Stupid post.

Our current economy, the one your lying price of shit president claims credit for, was given to us by the last administration.
 
dviss1 said:
Right... You voted for the party who wanted to keep pre existing conditions in place.

Bro you have no legs in the argument.

Romney passed that bill before Obama did. Just in a state level.

REPUBLICANS (Specifically The Heritage Foundation) wrote the ACA.
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I was just going to say Obamacare is literally Romneycare as a way to counter whatever it was you were trying to say. Somehow we lost ground. I think it was when you started implying that I’m some card-carrying member of the Republican Party.
 
dviss1 said:
Elizabeth Warren is gonna hand Trump his ass.

Watch.
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Elizabeth Warren and her $500 a month cap on prescription prices lol. Because we can all afford that. She’s a good ol’ boy. Gonna keep that gravy train rolling.
 
jonnyboy said:
Elizabeth Warren and her $500 a month cap on prescription prices lol. Because we can all afford that. She’s a good ol’ boy. Gonna keep that gravy train rolling.
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No, Medicare for all.

And yes we can afford it.
 
Generally what I want to see in a leader is someone who will work at serving the country, not just their base or themselves. I want someone who will put effort into promoting cooperation, and unity rather than division. Someone who will be strong in calling out injustices, but will also bring people to the table to listen to each other.

Trump has obviously failed at that (not that it was ever a priority for him). There will never be a president whose policies and ideals align directly to mine, and Id be willing to vote for someone who would do things differently than I would if I thought they would sincerely serve this country and its citizens instead of themselves.

Since this was a sports site I’ll use this example. The whole athletes winning championships and going to the white house thing has always been kind of dumb, and a photo op, and Im sure it was an unique experience to meet the president, but it had become a tradition. Then athletes didnt like Trump and were vocal in it, and Trump instead of acting like a leader started “uninviting”, them and attacking them on twitter and riling up his base. A real leader to me takes the first step in trying to make amends. He says hey I want you to come, lets make it more than a photoshoot, why don't you come and we’ll talk no camera’s no publicity stunt, lets just hear each other out. I mean theres a huge chance they leave and no ones minds have been changed, but you know what that does? It encourages healthy dialogue, it shows that as a leader Im willing to listen. All he does is talk.

Im not sure any of the Democratic candidates are that person, but from what Ive seen most of them would be better than Trump.

I need my leaders to lead, and inspire, and bring unity to the people their professing to lead. I do not need to agree with everything they do.
 
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