2020 Free Agency Thread (1 Viewer)

[lamlor]

 

[blazerkor]

That's nice for other teams but if we re-sign Hood we will have Dame, CJ, RoCo, Zach, Nurk, Gary, Hood, MLE which may be two players, BAE, Rio, Wenyen on early bird exception, Nas, Ant, Elleby, Hoard and Brown... so maybe we'll see one or two of those guys in this abbreviated training camp but also maybe not.

 

[wizenheimer]

I'm probably missing players but, I'm seeing about 109M for 9 players right now. So then, I guess 110M with Ellerby

5 more players?

MLE - so it sounds like Millsap if rumors are true. I'm not against that, not in love with it either. Depends on who else signs for what Millsap signs for. I hope either he signs for less than the full-MLE or it's a 1 year deal, 2 years at most. Ideally, he'd leave enough of the MLE to sign another FA.

BAE - 3.6M is enough to add a decent player. with a 141M apron, hard-capping isn't an issue, even if they use the TPE

and there are the FA's

Whiteside, Hood, Melo, Gabriel, Hoard. I'd be ok with none of them returning (especially Melo) although I wouldn't mind seeing Gabriel again. Hood is toough because it's realistic to be pessimistic about his injury and recovery

but the Blazers can not go into the season with Nurkic and Zach being the only two C's and real bigs. That's especially true because expecting both to be healthy all year seems pretty iffy

 

[blazerkor]

So we see that there is a good chance that we use some if not all of the MLE on Millsap. Another possibility that someone on here was discussing is if the Pistons buy out Ariza we would use some if not all of the MLE on him instead. If it goes either of those two ways I think Zach is going to have to come in much more polished than we last saw him in order to win the other starting forward spot next to RoCo.

I actually like a rotation of Dame, Gary (I know this will never happen), Ariza, RoCo, Nurk, CJ, Zach, Hood and Nas the most. More likely and me being realistic the rotation will be Dame, CJ, RoCo, Millsap, Nurk, Gary, Zach, Hood and whoever out of BAE, Rio, Nas, Ant and Wenyen can win over Stotts and I imagine that will change throughout the season unless we get a real steal with the BAE. One thing I just thought of is that if Hood comes back and is as good as he was before injury, there is a real chance that he could win that starting spot and we could see Dame, CJ, Hood, RoCo, Nurk, Millsap, Gary, Zach and whoever stands out from those other guys.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'm probably missing players but, I'm seeing about 109M for 9 players right now. So then, I guess 110M with Ellerby

5 more players?

MLE - so it sounds like Millsap if rumors are true. I'm not against that, not in love with it either. Depends on who else signs for what Millsap signs for. I hope either he signs for less than the full-MLE or it's a 1 year deal, 2 years at most. Ideally, he'd leave enough of the MLE to sign another FA.

BAE - 3.6M is enough to add a decent player. with a 141M apron, hard-capping isn't an issue, even if they use the TPE

and there are the FA's

Whiteside, Hood, Melo, Gabriel, Hoard. I'd be ok with none of them returning (especially Melo) although I wouldn't mind seeing Gabriel again. Hood is toough because it's realistic to be pessimistic about his injury and recovery

but the Blazers can not go into the season with Nurkic and Zach being the only two C's and real bigs. That's especially true because expecting both to be healthy all year seems pretty iffy

A few interesting possibilities exist looking at UFA centers. Does Jahlil Okafor command more than the minimum? How much does Nerlens Noel go for? Is anyone still interested in Kyle O'Quinn? Is Alex Len an unsalvageable bust?

 

[Scalma]

I want Millsap and Cousins, but they aren’t the only ones I’d be happy with. Hopefully Olshey doesn’t do dumb shit, free agency is where I trust him the least.

 

[Pinwheel1]

A few interesting possibilities exist looking at UFA centers. Does Jahlil Okafor command more than the minimum? How much does Nerlens Noel go for? Is anyone still interested in Kyle O'Quinn? Is Alex Len an unsalvageable bust?

Len has a mean streak. He does not back down. Not great but I wouldn't mind him as a backup. I bet he would come cheap

Nerlens looked pretty good last year. I bet he gets the MLE

 

[blazerkor]

I'm probably missing players but, I'm seeing about 109M for 9 players right now. So then, I guess 110M with Ellerby

5 more players?

MLE - so it sounds like Millsap if rumors are true. I'm not against that, not in love with it either. Depends on who else signs for what Millsap signs for. I hope either he signs for less than the full-MLE or it's a 1 year deal, 2 years at most. Ideally, he'd leave enough of the MLE to sign another FA.

BAE - 3.6M is enough to add a decent player. with a 141M apron, hard-capping isn't an issue, even if they use the TPE

and there are the FA's

Whiteside, Hood, Melo, Gabriel, Hoard. I'd be ok with none of them returning (especially Melo) although I wouldn't mind seeing Gabriel again. Hood is toough because it's realistic to be pessimistic about his injury and recovery

but the Blazers can not go into the season with Nurkic and Zach being the only two C's and real bigs. That's especially true because expecting both to be healthy all year seems pretty iffy

So in your scenario if you don't want any of those other guys back except Wenyen and we do use the MLE and considering his previous salary it would take the entire MLE to get Millsap who started all but three games he played in last season for the very successful Nuggets. We could take care of your one problem of not having enough centers (even though in today's NBA I think a big man rotation of Nurk, Millsap and Zach with spot minutes from Wenyen is enough) with the BAE by signing Nerlens Noel. So now we have 13 players under contract and then we can just pick whoever the best two free agent D-Leaguers available to fill the last two spots on two way contracts. Maybe we can have one other player but I don't think so, if we can some in here have mentioned Evan Turner on a vet min or even MCW on the vet min.

 

[lamlor]

Killian Tillie was a guy I wanted them to take a flyer on but he went to Memphis. Oh well.

 

[Scalma]

If Portland signs Ellebe to a two way they’ll have 6 roster openings. 4 if Hood and Gabriel return. That should allow Portland to stock up for a run.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

If Portland signs Ellebe to a two way they’ll have 6 roster openings. 4 if Hood and Gabriel return. That should allow Portland to stock up for a run.

They still have a need for a couple of big guys and an actual backup PG. While I liked the Covington deal fine, I just have the sick feeling that Olshey will be happy to stop there. I hate that I have so little faith in the FO, but it is what it is.

 

[Blazinaway]

They still have a need for a couple of big guys and an actual backup PG. While I liked the Covington deal fine, I just have the sick feeling that Olshey will be happy to stop there. I hate that I have so little faith in the FO, but it is what it is.

would still like to work out something with Sac for Bjelica or Richaun Holmes

 

[illmatic99]

Aron Baynes prolly won't be available for cheap, but he's really good and would be in our 9 man rotation in the playoffs.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

Aron Baynes prolly won't be available for cheap, but he's really good and would be in our 9 man rotation in the playoffs.

I think Baynes would be a good back-up for Nurk. If Nurk goes down again, however, can he play starters minutes? He's no spring chicken.

 

[TBpup]

Now is when Neil has the chance to make improvements to this roster.

• MLE - $9,258,000
• BAE - 3,623,000
• TPE - 7,069,662 (per Sportrac and ESPN's Trade Machine)

Most often rumored for the MLE has been Paul Millsap, a 35 year old, 6'7", 257 lb PF who averaged 11.6/5.7 last season while shooting 43% from '3'.
The BAE is hopefully used on a legit backup PG which Portland hasn't had in years.
The TPE, I'd like to see them get someone like Richaun Holmes as the Blazers are thin at the 4/5. Should be other decent names to choose from.

 

[Blazinaway]

I would not mind at all picking up a defensive oriented guard like Kris Dunn or Shaq Harrison on the cheap

 

[Blazinaway]

SKAL let go by Atlanta now a UFA

 

[Natebishop3]

Is this team good enough to win a championship if we only add bench role players with our money?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Is this team good enough to win a championship if we only add bench role players with our money?

Does this team have enough available money to add anything but role players?

 

[twobullz]

What about Marcus Morris? I know he is not the most popular, but seems like he would fit in good as our 4. He at least is only 31 instead of 36 like Millsap. Not sure what he will require for a salary though.

 

[illmatic99]

Is this team good enough to win a championship if we only add bench role players with our money?

With Nurk taking a slight step up and staying healthy, CJ having a better passing year, and Trent improving linearly, and Simons becoming a contributor, Zach staying healthy and learning to defend without foul trouble, etc etc. Is a longshot but not too far fetched if we're lucky.

 

[Natebishop3]

Does this team have enough available money to add anything but role players?

No. A trade would be necessary.

 

[Natebishop3]

What about Marcus Morris? I know he is not the most popular, but seems like he would fit in good as our 4. He at least is only 31 instead of 36 like Millsap. Not sure what he will require for a salary though.

I want nothing to do with the Morris twins. They're toxic. Both of them.

 

[illmatic99]

What about Marcus Morris? I know he is not the most popular, but seems like he would fit in good as our 4. He at least is only 31 instead of 36 like Millsap. Not sure what he will require for a salary though.

meh, think the age thing with Millsap is overblown. Our window is the next two-three years. Think I'd rather have Paul than either of the twins basketball wise. Also don't want to root for those guys.

 

[wizenheimer]

They still have a need for a couple of big guys and an actual backup PG. While I liked the Covington deal fine, I just have the sick feeling that Olshey will be happy to stop there. I hate that I have so little faith in the FO, but it is what it is.

sure seems like Olshey's history says that he doesn't care about adding a backup PG. He believed CJ could fill the role and I'd bet he now thinks Simons can.

I have no faith in the FO. It's mainly that Olshey apparently believes the top-of-rotation/core-trio of Dame, CJ, and Nurk is a contender. I think that's crazy

this is what Olshey's teams have done in the playoffs when they've faced real contenders over the last 7 years:

1-4
1-4
1-4
0-4
0-4
0-4
0-4

yeah, that's right, the Blazers have been swept out of the playoffs 4 straight times and have now lost 18 games in a row against against better playoff teams. Portland has shown they can sometimes beat other flawed pretenders, but have no chance at all against elite teams

that issue isn't going to be solved with backup PG's or 4th options on offense or 36 year old has-beens or another 4-year project

 

[RR7]

sure seems like Olshey's history says that he doesn't care about adding a backup PG. He believed CJ could fill the role and I'd bet he now thinks Simons can.

I have no faith in the FO. It's mainly that Olshey apparently believes the top-of-rotation/core-trio of Dame, CJ, and Nurk is a contender. I think that's crazy

this is what Olshey's teams have done in the playoffs when they've faced real contenders over the last 7 years:

1-4
1-4
1-4
0-4
0-4
0-4
0-4

yeah, that's right, the Blazers have been swept out of the playoffs 4 straight times and have now lost 18 games in a row against against better playoff teams. Portland has shown they can sometimes beat other flawed pretenders, but have no chance at all against elite teams

that issue isn't going to be solved with backup PG's or 4th options on offense or 36 year old has-beens or another 4-year project

Not sure where the 18 in a row comes from, but whatever. I'm assuming you selectively included our sweep at the hands of the pelicans as one of those 0-4s, but do they count as "real contenders"? Or do you just include them to make a point, while ignoring us beating OKC and Denver the following year?
Is the loss to memphis included as well?

There's plenty of negative stuff to post about the blazers playoff performance without having to frame in such a way to only include the series they've lost and ignore anything else and come up with 18 games in a row that...isn't accurate?

 

[illmatic99]

Not sure where the 18 in a row comes from, but whatever. I'm assuming you selectively included our sweep at the hands of the pelicans as one of those 0-4s, but do they count as "real contenders"? Or do you just include them to make a point, while ignoring us beating OKC and Denver the following year?
Is the loss to memphis included as well?

There's plenty of negative stuff to post about the blazers playoff performance without having to frame in such a way to only include the series they've lost and ignore anything else and come up with 18 games in a row that...isn't accurate?

talk about selective reasoning.

 

[illmatic99]

sure seems like Olshey's history says that he doesn't care about adding a backup PG. He believed CJ could fill the role and I'd bet he now thinks Simons can.

I have no faith in the FO. It's mainly that Olshey apparently believes the top-of-rotation/core-trio of Dame, CJ, and Nurk is a contender. I think that's crazy

this is what Olshey's teams have done in the playoffs when they've faced real contenders over the last 7 years:

1-4
1-4
1-4
0-4
0-4
0-4
0-4

yeah, that's right, the Blazers have been swept out of the playoffs 4 straight times and have now lost 18 games in a row against against better playoff teams. Portland has shown they can sometimes beat other flawed pretenders, but have no chance at all against elite teams

that issue isn't going to be solved with backup PG's or 4th options on offense or 36 year old has-beens or another 4-year project

yes, if we take out all our wins in the playoffs, we'll have losses only.

 

[e_blazer]

Is this team good enough to win a championship if we only add bench role players with our money?

Covington has already been added, fills a glaring need for a defensive wing, and is a legitimate starter, so isn't your question pretty much moot?

 

[RR7]

Covington has already been added, fills a glaring need for a defensive wing, and is a legitimate starter, so isn't your question pretty much moot?

But if we ignore good additions, all the additions are shit!