2020 Free Agency Thread

[illmatic99]

apron is 138.6M

there are restrictions to what you can do if you cross the luxury tax line but are below the apron. And they include not using the full MLE, the BAE, or do S&Ts.

For all intents and purpose, the number we need to be concerned with is 132 mil

 

[B-Roy]

there are restrictions to what you can do if you cross the luxury tax line but are below the apron. And they include not using the full MLE, the BAE, or do S&Ts.

For all intents and purpose, the number we need to be concerned with is 132 mil

If we only have 3 million left, we cannot even use the full BAE. Giving Hood that 4 million raise really fucked with our salary situation.

 

[wizenheimer]

there are restrictions to what you can do if you cross the luxury tax line but are below the apron. And they include not using the full MLE, the BAE, or do S&Ts.

For all intents and purpose, the number we need to be concerned with is 132 mil

the restriction Portland is limited to now is the apron. They can still use the BAE as long as they remain under the apron. It's pretty simple right now...they are hard-capped at the apron

 

[illmatic99]

the restriction Portland is limited to now is the apron. They can still use the BAE as long as they remain under the apron. It's pretty simple right now...they are hard-capped at the apron

are you sure about this?

 

[B-Roy]

the restriction Portland is limited to now is the apron. They can still use the BAE as long as they remain under the apron. It's pretty simple right now...they are hard-capped at the apron

Actually, this is the right take.

If we use the BAE/MLE or do a S&T, and we are above the apron, we commit to being "below the apron", which just makes us hard capped at the apron.

Although I suspect they want to remain under the tax line, for repeater purposes.

 

[B-Roy]

are you sure about this?

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q20

Teams with a team salary above the Apron have the following additional restrictions. Note that they use the team salary at the conclusion of any transaction to determine whether a team is over the Apron (for example in a sign-and-trade transaction, they look at what the team salary would be after the trade is completed).

• Teams above the Apron cannot use the Bi-Annual exception (see question number 25).
• Teams above the Apron have a smaller Mid-Level exception (see question number 25). It can be used to offer a mid-level contract no longer than three years, while other teams can offer four. The starting salary is also lower.
• Teams cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade transaction (see question number 92). Note that they calculate whether the team is over or under the Apron after the full sign-and-trade transaction, and not just the signing.
• Teams above the Apron do not have the same protections under the Gilbert Arenas provision (see question number 43). Under the Arenas provision other teams can offer restricted free agents salaries starting up to the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception. If a team with the right of first refusal does not have Early Bird rights to the player and is over the Apron, it will have only the smaller Taxpayer Mid-Level exception at its disposal, and cannot match an offer for the full Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception.

We are fine as long as we don't cross the apron, we are "hard-capped" at it.

But again, I'd imagine we'd want to stay under the tax line by the end of the season for repeater purposes.

 

[RR7]

there are restrictions to what you can do if you cross the luxury tax line but are below the apron. And they include not using the full MLE, the BAE, or do S&Ts.

For all intents and purpose, the number we need to be concerned with is 132 mil

All those restrictions apply to the apron of 138 and having to stay under. We don't need to worry about 132.

Unless, as BRoy stated, we want to stay under the tax.

 

[B-Roy]

I really really really like the idea of signing Batum to be our backup point guard.

He looked absolutely washed last season, but come on, he knows the system, Stotts knows how to use him, and he won't need to play a lot. Great way to revitalize his career. He's only 31! He shouldn't be this washed.

 

[wizenheimer]

Damian Lillard $31,626,953
C.J. McCollum $29,354,152
Jusuf Nurkic $14,138,889
Zach Collins $5,406,255
Anfernee Simons $2,252,040
Nassir Little $2,210,640
Gary Trent Jr. $1,663,861

Andrew Nicholson $2,844,430
Anderson Varejao $1,913,345

Robert Covington $12,138,345
Rodney Hood $10,047,450
Derrick Jones Jr. $9,268,293
Enes Kanter $5,005,350

approximately 127.8M

who am I missing besides Elleby? What did I add wrong?

I also question if Nurkic's salary is correct because that seems to assume he's credited for his likely incentives. Maybe his salary is about 2 million less?

adding Elleby puts the Blazers up to about 129M. Which would leave slightly less that 10M in room under the apron

 

[julius]

I'm kind of on the Rondo bandwagon, tho I suspect he will sign with someone else.

 

[wizenheimer]

I really really really like the idea of signing Batum to be our backup point guard.

He looked absolutely washed last season, but come on, he knows the system, Stotts knows how to use him, and he won't need to play a lot. Great way to revitalize his career. He's only 31! He shouldn't be this washed.

Batum, IIRC has avoided multiple serious injuries but he has had constant nagging injories every year of his career. I think that takes a toll.

 

[Fitz303]

Blazers current salary cap (11 players) - $126,622,003. Most people are using Nurkic's salary at $14,138,889, but IIRC his salary will be $12,888,889 because his bonus incentive will drop off the cap this year due to him missing so many games last year
Luxury tax line - $132,627,000
Current space below the luxury tax - $6,004,997

If I were to guess, I'd say they try to do everything to stay below the tax, and they probably go into the season at 14 players on the roster, and have Elleby on a 2-way. That leaves 3 spots to fill with the vet mins and BAE.

Gabriel @ Min = $1,620,564
1 yr player (i.e Bowman) @ Min = $1,445,697
Leaves $2,938,736 for 1 more player to be used with portion of the BAE if needed. If I was in charge, I'd use that on Skal.

BTW.. 1st post. Long time lurker, but made the move over from Realgm.

Edit: I see Wiz beat me to this.. Same story new forum

 

[wizenheimer]

I'm kind of on the Rondo bandwagon, tho I suspect he will sign with someone else.

he'd be pretty damn great as a backup PG but I suspect the BAE wouldn't be enough

as it stands right now, a dream finish would be Rondo at PG and Illyasova for a PF vet minimum. Won't happen of course but those are the two gaping holes in the roster IMO

 

[riverman]

I'd also consider bringing back Pat Connaughton as a bench guy...he's on the market but what we need is probably a Jeremy Lin pt guard on the bench....if Batum came cheap he'd be serviceable in spot minutes...Connaughton is younger

 

[riverman]

Blazers current salary cap (11 players) - $126,622,003. Most people are using Nurkic's salary at $14,138,889, but IIRC his salary will be $12,888,889 because his bonus incentive will drop off the cap this year due to him missing so many games last year
Luxury tax line - $132,627,000
Current space below the luxury tax - $6,004,997

If I were to guess, I'd say they try to do everything to stay below the tax, and they probably go into the season at 14 players on the roster, and have Elleby on a 2-way. That leaves 3 spots to fill with the vet mins and BAE.

Gabriel @ Min = $1,620,564
1 yr player (i.e Bowman) @ Min = $1,445,697
Leaves $2,938,736 for 1 more player to be used with portion of the BAE if needed. If I was in charge, I'd use that on Skal.

BTW.. 1st post. Long time lurker, but made the move over from Realgm.

Edit: I see Wiz beat me to this.. Same story new forum

Welcome! good post....I'd pass on Skal though ....he has knee red flags that scare me for a skinny big guy

 

[Haakzilla]

I'd also consider bringing back Pat Connaughton as a bench guy...he's on the market but what we need is probably a Jeremy Lin pt guard on the bench....if Batum came cheap he'd be serviceable in spot minutes...Connaughton is younger

...I think Bucks retained Patty C

 

[riverman]

...I think Bucks retained Patty C

I just read on a list he's a free agent...maybe it's an old list

 

[blazedanugz]

are you sure about this?

Yes

 

[blazedanugz]

...I think Bucks retained Patty C

they did

 

[riverman]

they did

I stand corrected then....so ET and Bazz are the other free agents on the list

 

[julius]

he'd be pretty damn great as a backup PG but I suspect the BAE wouldn't be enough

as it stands right now, a dream finish would be Rondo at PG and Illyasova for a PF vet minimum. Won't happen of course but those are the two gaping holes in the roster IMO

You are correct, it probably is not enough of a salary for him. But I think he'd be a good backup and mentor (even considering his kind of quirkiness).

 

[B-Roy]

Damian Lillard $31,626,953
C.J. McCollum $29,354,152
Jusuf Nurkic $14,138,889
Zach Collins $5,406,255
Anfernee Simons $2,252,040
Nassir Little $2,210,640
Gary Trent Jr. $1,663,861

Andrew Nicholson $2,844,430
Anderson Varejao $1,913,345

Robert Covington $12,138,345
Rodney Hood $10,047,450
Derrick Jones Jr. $9,268,293
Enes Kanter $5,005,350

approximately 127.8M

who am I missing besides Elleby? What did I add wrong?

I also question if Nurkic's salary is correct because that seems to assume he's credited for his likely incentives. Maybe his salary is about 2 million less?

adding Elleby puts the Blazers up to about 129M. Which would leave slightly less that 10M in room under the apron

That looks right. I can't math today.

 

[B-Roy]

Jeff Green just signed with the Nets for the vet min. Would not have minded him for a vet min. Even for the BAE I would have been fine with it.

 

[B-Roy]

I'd also consider bringing back Pat Connaughton as a bench guy...he's on the market but what we need is probably a Jeremy Lin pt guard on the bench....if Batum came cheap he'd be serviceable in spot minutes...Connaughton is younger

Already re-signed with the Bucks.

 

[B-Roy]

Batum, IIRC has avoided multiple serious injuries but he has had constant nagging injories every year of his career. I think that takes a toll.

I suppose, but he was fine the year before, and to be honest he barely played last year because of Charlotte's youth movement. Can't imagine he was very motivated.

In theory, he is a playmaker AND a wing defender. Means CJ doesn't have to play backup point but he can at least guard opposing point guards. Looks like his shot has deserted him though.

 

[Driew]

Jeff Green just signed with the Nets for the vet min. Would not have minded him for a vet min. Even for the BAE I would have been fine with it.

The Blazers are not Nets though.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I'm kind of on the Rondo bandwagon, tho I suspect he will sign with someone else.

That's just what I was thinking? Can our guys handle a little tough love?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Pat C. actually getting $16mil/3 years. Good for him.

 

[B-Roy]

Pat C. actually getting $16mil/3 years. Good for him.

They gave 5 million of the MLE to Pat and 4 million to Portis.

Doesn't it seem like Milwauke is just doubling down on their bad decisions? Like "oh hey, we meant to do that, actually, we meant to do that EVEN MORE!"

 

[Wizard Mentor]

What ever happened to Ibaka and the plane ride? Where was he going?