Game Thread 2021 NBA Finals - Suns vs Bucks!

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Who do you want to win the championship?

  • Suns

    Votes: 11 32.4%

  • Bucks

    Votes: 12 35.3%

  • Don't Care

    Votes: 6 17.6%

  • Either Or

    Votes: 5 14.7%
  • Total voters
    34
Had Pat C.
Could have had CP3 but traded down to get Webster.
Could have had Giannis but took CJ instead.

....but it doesn't matter. No Lakers, no Nets, no super teams, no big market teams.

LOVE IT!
 
TBpup said:
Had Pat C.
Could have had CP3 but traded down to get Webster.
Could have had Giannis but took CJ instead.

....but it doesn't matter. No Lakers, no Nets, no super teams, no big market teams.

LOVE IT!
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I very much doubt CP3 would still be on the Blazers if we had drafted him instead of Webster.
 
TBpup said:
No Lakers, no Nets, no super teams, no big market teams.

LOVE IT!
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No Clippers too! I'm really happy.

Regardless of who wins, it will be a weird championship. When was the last time there wasn't a top 10 player in the Finals? (Giannis obviously is a top 10 guy, but I doubt he'll be playing like it given the injury.)

When you think about it, only the Suns and the Blazers had no really significant injuries among West playoff teams. This was the year when anybody could've come out and won it all, including Portland. And we just shit the bed against a hobbled Nuggets squad in the first round.

I can see why Dame might force his way out. Watching the Suns lap us sucks.
 
Bucks keep the coach most their fans are saying is clueless, but they drafted well, and they're in the finals:



Meanwhile, we get rid of our coach, who is supposedly holding us back, and we are tied for 13th on the local sportsbook for best odds to win the title next year.
 
Tince said:
Bucks keep the coach most their fans are saying is clueless, but they drafted well, and they're in the finals:



Meanwhile, we get rid of our coach, who is supposedly holding us back, and we are tied for 13th on the local sportsbook for best odds to win the title next year.
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The right thing was fire both.

But keep going.
 
Strenuus said:
The right thing was fire both.

But keep going.
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Could very well be the case. The question is which one makes the far more significant impact?

Why have we not seen an uptick on our 2022 title odds after making 1 of the 2 moves?
 
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All it took was a pandemic, a rejiggered season and injuries to key marquee players to level the playing field for the rest of the league. Whatever the reasons, it’s refreshing to see some different teams (and players) finally get their due. I suppose we all ought to enjoy it as it will almost certainly be back to “normal” moving forward. It can’t be the NBA if LeBron, Steph or KD aren’t in the finals. The ghost of David Stern has to be crushed and sobbing………
 
Tince said:
Bucks keep the coach most their fans are saying is clueless, but they drafted well, and they're in the finals:



Meanwhile, we get rid of our coach, who is supposedly holding us back, and we are tied for 13th on the local sportsbook for best odds to win the title next year.
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The only player the Bucks drafted on that list is Giannis, and he had a freakish growth spurt after the draft. If he doesn’t have that growth spurt, he’s a 6’7” guy who can’t shoot. At 6’11”, he is a monster with handles.
 
mook said:
No Clippers too! I'm really happy.

Regardless of who wins, it will be a weird championship. When was the last time there wasn't a top 10 player in the Finals? (Giannis obviously is a top 10 guy, but I doubt he'll be playing like it given the injury.)

When you think about it, only the Suns and the Blazers had no really significant injuries among West playoff teams. This was the year when anybody could've come out and won it all, including Portland. And we just shit the bed against a hobbled Nuggets squad in the first round.

I can see why Dame might force his way out. Watching the Suns lap us sucks.
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Dame is locked into his contract, was loyal to Stotts, and is best friends with CJ. If he demands a trade in the next two years, the Blazers need to get the best possible deal and ship him to that team even if they suck because he doesn’t have a no-trade clause and he signed the SuperMax, which means the Blazers don’t need to placate him by sending him to only a good team.

I love Dame but he doesn’t have any leverage at this point which is why Haynes used “may” and “could” in his Tweets about Dame being unhappy here.
 
KristinthBonkers said:
The only player the Bucks drafted on that list is Giannis, and he had a freakish growth spurt after the draft. If he doesn’t have that growth spurt, he’s a 6’7” guy who can’t shoot. At 6’11”, he is a monster with handles.
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Milwaukee measured Giannis pre-draft as 6'8.5. At most he's grown a couple of inches. He's a bit unusual in that he didn't lose any mobility or lift after his growth spurt

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...annis-antetokounmpo-nba-most-exceptional-body

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/giannis-antetokounmpo-7223/
 
Tince said:
Could very well be the case. The question is which one makes the far more significant impact?

Why have we not seen an uptick on our 2022 title odds after making 1 of the 2 moves?
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Because both needed to be made.
 
Ah yes Pat C, yet another miss by Blazer fans who said he would be out of the league in 3 years.
 
KristinthBonkers said:
The only player the Bucks drafted on that list is Giannis, and he had a freakish growth spurt after the draft. If he doesn’t have that growth spurt, he’s a 6’7” guy who can’t shoot. At 6’11”, he is a monster with handles.
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You're 100% correct, I don't know why I said drafted well opposed to obtaining talent that may have been overlooked.
 
Strenuus said:
Because both needed to be made.
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If two variables have equal/large impacts on team success and one them changes (for the positive), you should expect a noticable bump. If not, its safe to conclude only the other variable really mattered.

If Olshey got fired tomorrow, I strongly suspect the odds wouldn't move either. Why? Because a new GM is stuck with the same roster issues and lack of flexibility Olshey has created. Vegas doesn't seem to think Stotts had any marginal impact, good or bad. Same with Billups.
 
Tince said:
If two variables have equal/large impacts on team success and one them changes (for the positive), you should expect a noticable bump. If not, its safe to conclude only the other variable really mattered.

If Olshey got fired tomorrow, I strongly suspect the odds wouldn't move either. Why? Because a new GM is stuck with the same roster issues and lack of flexibility Olshey has created. Vegas doesn't seem to think Stotts had any marginal impact, good or bad. Same with Billups.
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They also aren't going to move when it's unknown variables, so your analogy is kinda moot too lol.
 
Strenuus said:
They also aren't going to move when it's unknown variables, so your analogy is kinda moot too lol.
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I wouldn't say Billups is unknown, if that's what you're implying. He hasn't been a head coach, but the basketball world (and Vegas) is certainly aware of his resume. I'm backing Billups and he very well could be better than Stotts, but I don't suspect it will make a significant difference; which is my point.
 
Tince said:
You're 100% correct, I don't know why I said drafted well opposed to obtaining talent that may have been overlooked.
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I understood what you meant, just wanted to be factual. Bud is a good coach and I don’t even know their GM other than he crushed it.

Good for the Bucks but Dame isn’t Giannis, he’s small, and he needs help on defense. It puts the Blazers in a hole.
 
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