Game Thread 2022-23 Game #57 - BLAZERS VS LAKERS - FEBRUARY 13, 2023 - MONDAY - 7:00 PM (PDT) ROOT

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crandc said:
Vaccines save lives.

Someone who refuses vaccines is putting others at risk.

Someone who refuses vaccines and spouts disproven nonsense is antivaxxer.

Denying facts isn't independent thinking. The world is round. The moon landing happened. So did Nazi Holocaust. Trump lost the 2020 election. Facts
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You sound like a spokesperson for the pharmaceutical industry. The fact is, many people have gotten Covid even though they were vaccinated. A friend of mine has gotten it 3 times, though he was vaccinated each time. Even worse, the vaccine is killing young men all over the world. Every other day you read about some soccer player, football player or other athlete dropping dead from “unknown causes,” though we all know what the cause is.
 
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I got Covid. But I got it a lot less badly because I am vaccinated.

I have heard the conspiracy theories about healthy young men dying by the thousands from Covid vaccine. But no one can name one.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I'll probably move the most recent posts to an OT thread if the discussion continues
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It's a Laker game thread that the Blazers won from Feb 13th. I guess the forum is about discussion so yeah i can see working to preserve that. Not sure it works well in a game thread though.
 
crandc said:
I got Covid. But I got it a lot less badly because I am vaccinated.

I have heard the conspiracy theories about healthy young men dying by the thousands from Covid vaccine. But no one can name one.
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What bothered me is that people weren't even allowed to question something that had extremely little to no testing. Now there are account coming out every day of people dying for reasons medical professionals can't quickly identify. We are taught to question everything, except when it came to putting a non-tested, spiked mRNA vaccine into people to the point where they were fired from their jobs if they didn't get it. There is so much evidence coming out now that what people were told about the vaccine or masks was very far from what they were told initially. I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I've been poked and prodded more than most for various medicals issues.

It's the fact that I wasn't even allowed to questions something that had no history and little to no testing, yet people tried to shut down simply asking questions. That is way too much like late 30's Europe.

https://www.today.com/health/covid-heart-attack-young-people-rcna69903
 
I’m vaccinated and got Covid with barely any symptoms (a slight sore throat). I wouldn’t have even known I had it but I was directing a play and an actor got Covid so we all had to be tested. I just thought “oh, that’s what that sore throat was.”
 
Okay
I’m just going to shut off notifications from this thread.
Problem solved.
 
TBpup said:
That is way too much like late 30's Europe.
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LOL!!

Thanks for the laughs.

If you think getting told 'you are wrong' is all the people in Europe in the 30s experienced, boy do I have some information to give you about this thing called The Holocaust.
 
For people who supposedly aren't allowed to speak, they are sure saying a lot.
 
TBpup said:
It's the fact that I wasn't even allowed to questions something that had no history and little to no testing, yet people tried to shut down simply asking questions. That is way too much like late 30's Europe.
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c'mon man...

LOL...."not being allowed to question". For chrissakes, the dipshit President and nearly half of the bleating congress was questioning it constantly and questioning it loudly. Fox News, the WSJ, right wing media, and talk radio questioned and screamed and often crossed into hysteria about vaccination. The opposition to vaccines was pronounced, well publicized, and didn't get shut down in any quarter. Yeah, it got labeled as anti-vax but here's the reality, that term is completely accurate:

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the problem for anybody who may, or may not, have a thoughtful opposition to vaccines (which I haven't really heard) is that the belligerent-ignorant- reactionary people and performance actors dominated one side of the debate

to compare what has 'happened' to anti-vaxers (I mean, how exactly have they been harmed?) to the rise of Nazi-ism and fascism in Europe in the 30's is crazy
 

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@wizenheimer did you know the CDC changed their definition of a vaccine? From something that produces immunity to simply protection. So no calling someone Anti based a new definition is a false pretense.

How have they been harmed? Lost their jobs, coerced, intimidated, ostracized. Barred from new employment, wrongly segregated.
 
HailBlazers said:
@wizenheimer did you know the CDC changed their definition of a vaccine? From something that produces immunity to simply protection. So no calling someone Anti based a new definition is a false pretense.

How have they been harmed? Lost their jobs, coerced, intimidated, ostracized. Barred from new employment, wrongly segregated.
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lol...so then, you mean that employers can actually set the terms of employment? And businesses can actually determine requirements for entry? Radical

The flu vaccine has never given full "immunity", just a level of protection
 
wizenheimer said:
to compare what has 'happqened' to anti-vaxers (I mean, how exactly have they been harmed?) to the rise of Nazi-ism and fascism in Europe in the 30's is crazy
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Ive read (and posted) a lot of asinine things in this forum. This might have been the craziest thing I've seen posted.
 
HailBlazers said:
And opting out of this doesn't make one, an "Anti-Vaxxer"
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that's true, I guess...personal choice. But like all decisions, there are consequences for making that choice

Choice--->consequences.

And sometimes, and there's plenty of evidence for this, people opting for no vaccination resulted in consequences for others. The insidious nature of infection-->transmission-before-symptoms-->symptoms. The old "your right to swing your fist ends at my nose"
 
illmatic99 said:
LOL!!

Thanks for the laughs.

If you think getting told 'you are wrong' is all the people in Europe in the 30s experienced, boy do I have some information to give you about this thing called The Holocaust.
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Stop it. That is not what I was implying and you know it, and not close to what I said. Good grief, try to have a little more open of a mind before the continual knee jerk response. You're better than that.
 
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