2022 Free Agency Thread

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Wall / Jackson
Powell / Kennard
George / Mann?
Kawhi / Covington
Zubac / Morris

I think Nico is gonna get squeezed-- might be available for the full MLE if we so wish. I don't really wanna pay a 34 yr old Nico 10 mil/yr, but it's an option.

(word is he went to LA for less money than he was offered here last year).
I would take him. He's shooting 40% on threes his last 2 seasons. And obviously can defend as we saw him on Ingram in the play-in.
 
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Potentially yes. He’s not the playmaker Nurk is but imo he’s a much better defender and rebounder, and the offense is pretty good. It won’t happen here because of Nurk’s history here, but I might.

You can compare their advanced stats for the past two seasons here, he had a 22 PER this year.


https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm...layer_id2=nurkiju01&p2yrfrom=2021&p2yrto=2022

The efficiency and production is quite attractive. If you haven't clicked the link to look over those numbers and comparison, it's well worth it.
 
I don't think Ingles is being signed this off-season. IIRC, as long as Ingles doesn't sign somewhere else, we can retain his bird rights all the way up until the trade deadline. At which point we can sign and trade him at an appropriate salary to facilitate a possible trade (almost like punting Bledsoe's salary spot all the way to the deadline). He won't be ready until Jan/Feb to play anyways so I don't quite see what the point is of bringing him back immediately just to rehab.
I read Sept he'll be ready when we first got him. I think he'll be our new version of Chris Kaman on the bench..give you a solid 15 minutes a game when you need him.
 
What a lesson in mismanagement:

- Rockets trade Chris Paul and two firsts and two pick swaps for Westbrook in 2019 thinking Paul was done to reunite Harden/Westbrook.
- Rockets trade Westbrook for John Wall and a pick in 2020.
- Harden traded for scraps in 2020.
- John Wall paid ~84 mil to go away after sitting on the bench for a year.
Scraps?? The Rockets got 4 unprotected first round picks and 4 pick swaps for Harden if I remember correctly. And the Nets have underperformed so they've actually been pretty good picks.
 
Scraps?? The Rockets got 4 unprotected first round picks and 4 pick swaps for Harden if I remember correctly. And the Nets have underperformed so they've actually been pretty good picks.
I think just 3 picks. There's only two left. Swaps aren't a big deal as Houston has been bad and looks many years away. Still it was a solid return for Harden. They could've had LaVert and Jared Allen too but gave them to third teams.
 
If it came down to Bamba or Hartenstein for backup C, who would you all choose?
 
The problem with these stats is the majority of those other guys are doing it as starters while Hartenstein is doing it primarily against second units, he averaged less than 20 minutes a night. Looks good, but I dont think its fair to those other guys. He's about as good of a backup that's available though

sure, but I think it’s telling that he’s the only low minute player making the list. Not saying he’s a better defender than gobert or Jaren, but I think he’s a only a tier below them and a definitive tier above Nurk when it comes to defense.
 
Looking at tax numbers, it just doesn't seem like we're on the same playing field anymore. We were a tax team for a few years but we never paid the kind of tax that some of these contenders are shelling out.

In 2021-22:
- GSW: 175 mil payroll, 170 mil tax
- BKN: 158 mil payroll, 98 mil tax
- LAC: 165 mil payroll, 83 mil tax
- MIL: 152 mil payroll, 54 mil tax
- LAL: 149 mil payroll, 45 mil tax
- UTA: 147 mil payroll, 19 mil tax
- PHI: 145 mil payroll, 14 mil tax

How are we supposed to compete with these teams?

In 2019, we had the highest payroll + tax in the league. We had a 131 mil payroll, with a 6 mil tax bill.

The numbers these days are just astronomical.
 
Looking at tax numbers, it just doesn't seem like we're on the same playing field anymore. We were a tax team for a few years but we never paid the kind of tax that some of these contenders are shelling out.

In 2021-22:
- GSW: 175 mil payroll, 170 mil tax
- BKN: 158 mil payroll, 98 mil tax
- LAC: 165 mil payroll, 83 mil tax
- MIL: 152 mil payroll, 54 mil tax
- LAL: 149 mil payroll, 45 mil tax
- UTA: 147 mil payroll, 19 mil tax
- PHI: 145 mil payroll, 14 mil tax

How are we supposed to compete with these teams?

In 2019, we had the highest payroll + tax in the league. We had a 131 mil payroll, with a 6 mil tax bill.

The numbers these days are just astronomical.
I don't see Boston or Dallas on that list
 
I don't see Boston or Dallas on that list
their extensions are kicking in this year. They'll get there. Same with Phoenix if they wanna pay Ayton, and Atlanta once the Young deal kicks in and they pay their yougins.
 
Looking at tax numbers, it just doesn't seem like we're on the same playing field anymore. We were a tax team for a few years but we never paid the kind of tax that some of these contenders are shelling out.

In 2021-22:
- GSW: 175 mil payroll, 170 mil tax
- BKN: 158 mil payroll, 98 mil tax
- LAC: 165 mil payroll, 83 mil tax
- MIL: 152 mil payroll, 54 mil tax
- LAL: 149 mil payroll, 45 mil tax
- UTA: 147 mil payroll, 19 mil tax
- PHI: 145 mil payroll, 14 mil tax

How are we supposed to compete with these teams?

In 2019, we had the highest payroll + tax in the league. We had a 131 mil payroll, with a 6 mil tax bill.

The numbers these days are just astronomical.
The tax has become a joke, in terms of keeping the competitive balance fair. It's really working in reverse . I'm not saying it has to be like NASCAR, but c'mon man. 170 mil. over, and basically "no big deal".
 

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