2022 Free Agency Thread (3 Viewers)

[SlyPokerCat]

Do you trust Nassir?

Not really. Which is why I'd target someone like Kyle Anderson as insurance.

 

[glazeduck]

Do you trust Nassir?

To me, the question shouldn't be about whether or not you trust Nas, rather what's the opportunity cost of adding a 3 vs. a 4 or a 5...

Do we have ~48m/82 games between Nas, Hart, Sharpe and Winslow? I'd have to think those guys could overlap for darn close to covering the spot completely.

If adding a reliable 3 causes us to miss out on a Jalen Smith or a Mo Bamba, it's not worth it, in my mind. If we're really trying to compete this year, I think you hope that that group can keep the spot reliably bandaged together for the season...

 

[illmatic99]

Do you trust Nassir?

i think Nas will make a year 3 leap just like Ant did last year.

 

[B-Roy]

i think Nas will make a year 3 leap just like Ant did last year.

Year 4?

 

[illmatic99]

Year 4?

sorry i mean year 4. the 2 covid years all blend into one for me.

 

[Natebishop3]

i think Nas will make a year 3 leap just like Ant did last year.

This will only happy if he can stay healthy..... which sadly he has not shown much ability to do.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Not gonna find someone better than Watford.

Of coarse we’re not.

 

[PDXFonz]

I’d rather have Drummond as a backup than ROLO; and I <3 ROLO.

 

[Scalma]

Of coarse we’re not.

when talking about backup 4s, they won't.

 

[BankTeller]

Don't waste our MLE on a center when the Knicks are giving away Noel by attaching a draft pick to open up space. He makes 9.2 mi. We can partially guarantee Bledose to take in Noel with one of our TPEs, and pick up a future pick as an asset.

I’d definitely take Noel for the 2023 DEN 1st. We get into next year’s draft, we get a backup C, and Noel’s contract has a team option the following summer, so we can clear close to $10m at the end of the year.

If NYK is going to make rash decisions and jump through hoops to sign non-stars like Jalen Brunson, help them and reap the benefits.

If Eric Bledsoe doesn’t do anything for us in a trade for a player, the least he can do is bring in a 1st. If he doesn’t go out in a trade that brings in Thybulle, Noel and the 1st will be fine.

He doesn’t fit in a TPE. You’d probably have to send out Bledsoe. Wonder if you can still do a four team deal where we send out Bledsoe by facilitating the Gordon to PHI trade and take back Thybulle and Noel and get the 2023 DEN 1st. Even if you have to give the 2023 DEN 1st, I still might do it.

Dame/Ant/Keon
Ant/Hart/Sharpe
Nas/Thybulle/Ingles
Grant/Walker/Watford
Nurk/Noel/Brown III

That’s without a MLE signing. You probably could throw the MLE at the guy with the most potential to score at the forward spot like Warren. I’d worry about the team’s shooting, but this team should be really good defensively.

 

[Scalma]

Not a FA but one guy that fits into that roco TPE that's also on the market is Reddish. That dude is just dying to get coached up.

 

[Scalma]

As for the MLE, the only realistic player worth the full non tax one is Jalen Smith imo. Outside that, I dont really see anyone worth paying nearly 10M to.

 

[glazeduck]

Not a FA but one guy that fits into that roco TPE that's also on the market is Reddish. That dude is just dying to get coached up.

Was just coming here to post that I didn't hate the idea of trying to get a young player on a cheap contract that'd fallen out of favor... Reddish was one who came to mind, Okoro in Cleveland another, Jalen Johnson in ATL who seems to constantly be adding 3s and 4s to their roster was another...

 

[Mediocre Man]

Was just coming here to post that I didn't hate the idea of trying to get a young player on a cheap contract that'd fallen out of favor... Reddish was one who came to mind, Okoro in Cleveland another, Jalen Johnson in ATL who seems to constantly be adding 3s and 4s to their roster was another...

Yes. Smart business

 

[illmatic99]

Yes. Smart business

sounds like an olshey special. bargain hunting the dumpster for former lottery picks. this hasn't worked for us in the past. it's why i want to shift our mindset towards vets who have won before (tucker/porter/batum/etc)

 

[Scalma]

sounds like an olshey special. bargain hunting the dumpster for former lottery picks. this hasn't worked for us in the past. it's why i want to shift our mindset towards vets who have won before (tucker/porter/batum/etc)

Aminu and Harkless were starters on multiple playoff teams.

 

[B-Roy]

Reddish is not a bargain. He's an RFA after this season, same as Little, and plays the same position.

 

[illmatic99]

Aminu and Harkless were starters on multiple playoff teams.

funny... i thought neither was worth the ~MLE deals they got and were the main reasons why we lost in so many first rounds while dame got double/triple teamed.

 

[illmatic99]

Reddish is not a bargain. He's an RFA after this season, same as Little, and plays the same position.

and he couldn't even get on the floor for a team that was desperate for his contribution. Thibs' rotations be damned, but when you fail on two teams and the intel behind you isn't great, then no thanks.

 

[Scalma]

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funny... i thought neither was worth the ~MLE deals they got and were the main reasons why we lost in so many first rounds while dame got double/triple teamed.

Both those guys would be better fit in Billups scheme where they're not just standing around watching Dame (and sometimes CJ) go hero mode. Like for example, Harkless' slashing ability was never really utilized.

 

[Scalma]

and he couldn't even get on the floor for a team that was desperate for his contribution. Thibs' rotations be damned, but when you fail on two teams and the intel behind you isn't great, then no thanks.

Thibs hated him, but hes shit and has no business being a head coach.

 

[glazeduck]

sounds like an olshey special. bargain hunting the dumpster for former lottery picks. this hasn't worked for us in the past. it's why i want to shift our mindset towards vets who have won before (tucker/porter/batum/etc)

To be clear -- and fair point because I didn't outrightly say it -- this was in a scenario where we couldn't get anything else for Bledsoe. Agreed that hopefully he can fetch us a veteran that can help move the needle, BUT, I also believe in Chauncey's development chops, so would prefer a reclamation project over just cutting EB...

 

[Mediocre Man]

sounds like an olshey special. bargain hunting the dumpster for former lottery picks. this hasn't worked for us in the past. it's why i want to shift our mindset towards vets who have won before (tucker/porter/batum/etc)

So we make the playoffs and lose?

 

[Natebishop3]

and he couldn't even get on the floor for a team that was desperate for his contribution. Thibs' rotations be damned, but when you fail on two teams and the intel behind you isn't great, then no thanks.

It's crazy watching that video with Watford and Anthony Edwards and they were talking about how insanely good Reddish is.

 

[Natebishop3]

So we make the playoffs and lose?

It's the Portland way!

 

[illmatic99]

It's uncanny how often he did this.

Free agent signings:
2021- Zeller (#4 pick), McLemore (#7)
2019- Hezonja(#5)
2018- Stauskas (#8)
2016- Turner (#2)
2015- Harkless (#15), Aminu (#8)

it was either dumpster diving for former lottery picks looking for reclamation projects, or completely washed up vets (Gasol/Ezeli/Kaman/etc). His only truly good signing was Robin Lopez.

This is one are where I am very happy Olshey is not around.

 

[Scalma]

It's uncanny how often he did this.

Free agent signings:
2021- Zeller (#4 pick), McLemore (#7)
2019- Hezonja(#5)
2018- Stauskas (#8)
2016- Turner (#2)
2015- Harkless (#15), Aminu (#8)

Turner was really the only whiff considering the price of the others. I dont see any issue with taking a swing on a former lottery pick for minimal cost. Everyone does it.

 

[illmatic99]

Turner was really the only whiff considering the price of the others. I dont see any issue with taking a swing on a former lottery pick for minimal cost. Everyone does it.

would you give a full MLE to Bamba/Smith/Bagley? I really liked the idea of Smith earlier but question how much he would impact winning. Just watching the playoffs, you can see how much impact veterans provide. Someone like Tucker who I would usually stay far away from does so much on the floor that goes unnoticed. These yougins aren't doing anything from the intangible perspective.

Just once, I'd like to do a 180 on our standard FA strategy.

 

[B-Roy]

would you give a full MLE to Bamba/Smith/Bagley? I really liked the idea of Smith earlier but question how much he would impact winning.

If it's a short enough deal, why not? I don't expect it to be longer than 3 years max. Most likely a 2 year deal with some sort of option for the third year.

 

[Scalma]

would you give a full MLE to Bamba/Smith/Bagley? I really liked the idea of Smith earlier but question how much he would impact winning.

Jalen Smith? Yeah I would. I dont think the other two are worth the full MLE, but I would take Bamba for less.