Game Thread 2023-24 Game #29 - BLAZERS VS KINGS - DECEMBER 26, 2023 - TUESDAY - 7:00 PM PST - ROOT

[beast blazer]

Scoot's best game so far -

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Note: Game Score was created by John Hollinger to give a rough measure of a player's productivity for a single game. (40 is an outstanding performance, 10 is an average performance.)

Keep that trend line going up Scoot!

Scoot scored negative points? That's not good, but it is amazing.

 

[illmatic99]

Who do we want in return?

they'll prolly push davion mitchell out, but doubt we have interest in him.

first team to offer a first for thybulle gets him. even with lotto protections, i'd let him go.

 

[Tince]

they'll prolly push davion mitchell out, but doubt we have interest in him.

first team to offer a first for thybulle gets him. even with lotto protections, i'd let him go.

Mitchell and a first for Thybulle would be a great deal, even though we don't need more guards.

 

[wizenheimer]

seems like once or even twice a week now we end up saying "that was Scoot's best game". Granted, he was pretty bad earlier in the season so he didn't have very high hurdles to clear. Still, he's clearly getting better

and, how about the Jabari-Duop-Duo?

also: when team A shoots 40% or better from three and team B shoots under 25%, I'd think the chances that team B wins are almost non-existent...the modern NBA

 

[42N8Bounce]

Scoot scored negative points? That's not good, but it is amazing.

Game-Score; the formula is PTS + 0.4 * FG - 0.7 * FGA - 0.4*(FTA - FT) + 0.7 * ORB + 0.3 * DRB + STL + 0.7 * AST + 0.7 * BLK - 0.4 * PF - TOV. Game-Score was created by John Hollinger to give a rough measure of a player's productivity for a single game.

 

[illmatic99]

But taking out Scoot after playing him 18 straight minutes overrides that, so bad coaching job.

he had not played 18 straight minutes in the second half.

he came in at the 6:29 mark in the 3rd, and left at the 8:01 mark in the fourth. That's 10:28 consecutive game play.

it was a stupid benching, especially because he didn't bring him back in to close the game.

 

[KingSpeed]

Our bench outscored theirs 65 to 17

 

[illmatic99]

Mitchell and a first for Thybulle would be a great deal, even though we don't need more guards.

no way we get both. prolly one or the other. I don't think SAC has the pieces tbh

 

[Tince]

no way we get both. prolly one or the other. I don't think SAC has the pieces tbh

I agree the Kings wouldn't do it... we'd need to match salaries and I agree it would be great to hold out for a pick.

 

[beast blazer]

Sac has had interest in Thybulle before if I recall.

This was a great showcase.

Thybulle and our 2 firsts for Keegan Murray (unless we get a top 2 pick)

 

[Whyachi]

Blazers played physical on both ends. Portland was smackin' Sacramento players all over the court. The Blazers were mean tonight, they're sick of getting stomped. A much needed victory, keep it going Rip City !!

 

[illmatic99]

Thybulle and our 2 firsts for Keegan Murray (unless we get a top 2 pick)

i like murray, but no. that would be a drastic overpay.

 

[beast blazer]

i like murray, but no. that would be a drastic overpay.

Maybe not in a crappy draft though?

Murray was just a #4 pick a couple years ago, and at least we know what we're getting.

If Murray were available in this draft, you wouldn't use the GS pick to trade up and get him?

 

[TYDame]

Remember when Brooke called Nurk sharp shooter. Wonder what would she call Duop

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Thybulle and our 2 firsts for Keegan Murray (unless we get a top 2 pick)

Keegan is so meh.

 

[beast blazer]

Keegan is so meh.

He is kinda, but he's still only 23. He dropped 47 on Utah a couple weeks ago.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

He is kinda, but he's still only 23. He dropped 47 on Utah a couple weeks ago.

Not repeatable. He's not a starter in this league. Not a fan.

 

[maxiep]

Tisse is an incredible defender.

He could be the final piece for a team looking for a ring. An elite transition defender who can shoot the three at a reasonable price. Has to be worth a first and a few seconds, no?

 

[Natebishop3]

I still wouldn't trade Thybulle. He's a great bench player.

 

[wizenheimer]

I still wouldn't trade Thybulle. He's a great bench player.

don't trade him just to make a trade, but he should certainly be available in a larger deal

 

[RR7]

I still wouldn't trade Thybulle. He's a great bench player.

Unless someone gives a crazy offer, I agree. With the way the cap and super tax is now set up, it's not like it's realistic to have 4 stars on a team, so you ideally fill in with elite level role players, which he is. Still plenty young to be part of our build.

 

[Natebishop3]

Unless someone gives a crazy offer, I agree. With the way the cap and super tax is now set up, it's not like it's realistic to have 4 stars on a team, so you ideally fill in with elite level role players, which he is. Still plenty young to be part of our build.

He's still pretty young. He's on a good deal. He's a good locker room guy. I don't see any real reason to dump him for a pick.

 

[PCmor7]

he had not played 18 straight minutes in the second half.

he came in at the 6:29 mark in the 3rd, and left at the 8:01 mark in the fourth. That's 10:28 consecutive game play.

it was a stupid benching, especially because he didn't bring him back in to close the game.

Bad coaching job. Fire him immediately. Replace him with Keljin Blevins.

 

[OneSport3]

Ant is averaging 27.1 PPG. If he satisfied the minimum games played requirement, he would be 11th in the league in scoring. Above guys like Jayson Tatum, Nikola Jokic, Damian Lillard, Tyrese Maxey, LeBron James and Anthony Edwards.

 

[illmatic99]

Bad coaching job. Fire him immediately. Replace him with Keljin Blevins.

so.... simply acknowledging your mistake here is not happening. lol

 

[Ed O]

He could be the final piece for a team looking for a ring. An elite transition defender who can shoot the three at a reasonable price. Has to be worth a first and a few seconds, no?

He fell out of the rotation in Philadelphia when they were a contender less than a year ago and he plays 24 mpg off the bench for a team that's one of the bottom five in the NBA. Although he did get an offer sheet from Dallas, it's not like he was a hot property as a free agent.

Philly gave him up for basically a 2029 second rounder... (assuming Hart is worth a 1st rounder from NY, the 2nd they gave up and received were a wash, and McDaniels was worthless). It seems crazy to think he'd be worth more now than he was then, especially a first rounder and second rounder more, but I guess anything is possible.

 

[blazerfan11]

How did Jerami Grant end up playing more minutes (28) than Jabari Walker (22) ???

What a joke.

 

[RR7]

He fell out of the rotation in Philadelphia when they were a contender less than a year ago and he plays 24 mpg off the bench for a team that's one of the bottom five in the NBA. Although he did get an offer sheet from Dallas, it's not like he was a hot property as a free agent.

Philly gave him up for basically a 2029 second rounder... (assuming Hart is worth a 1st rounder from NY, the 2nd they gave up and received were a wash, and McDaniels was worthless). It seems crazy to think he'd be worth more now than he was then, especially a first rounder and second rounder more, but I guess anything is possible.

After he was traded, he has turned himself in to a 40% 3 point shooter. Putting the 3 in 3&D people wanted him to be. Seems crazy to think people improving wouldn't improve their trade value.

 

[BankTeller]

Ant is averaging 27.1 PPG. If he satisfied the minimum games played requirement, he would be 11th in the league in scoring. Above guys like Jayson Tatum, Nikola Jokic, Damian Lillard, Tyrese Maxey, LeBron James and Anthony Edwards.

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It’s incredible that now, 27ppg barely cracks the top 10. I remember Joe Johnson being around that ranking for a couple years in ATL back in the early ‘10s, but he was averaging like 19-21ppg in a given year.

 

[Tince]