Game Thread 2023-24 GAME #66 - BLAZERS VS KNICKS - MARCH 14, 2024 - THURSDAY - 7:00 PM PST - ROOT

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Is that Sebastian Telfair or Scoot?

Atrocious outing.

He went from showing flashes to this mess
 
Is it good or bad that Hagans is by far our best PG tonight?
 
Then he does stuff like this. I feel like Scoot has some mental blocks when he makes a single mistake.
 
4-0 Scoot run. Coach Thibs calls timeout.
Take that New York !!
 
PCmor7 said:
I'm this close to being officially worried about Scoot's long-term prospects. He misses a few games and it's like an entire reset to the start of the season for him: Can't shoot, makes bad decisions, fouls a lot.

If he was just falling back to bad/below average, but he drops to major, major liability.
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He's shooting 40% with a 5:1 assist to turnover ratio tonight. Are you referencing a different game?
 
AmirIcon said:
A rookie season is full of ups and downs. He looks bad but most players take a minute to get reacclimated upon coming back from injury.
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That would be applicable if his downs weren't abysmal. I just have trouble remembering a star player who looked this terrible this often as a blue chip draft pick. When he looks bad, he looks like a player who doesn't have any business in the NBA/
 
Scoot grimacing and holding his groin a bit after that back to back. Jesus I hope he didn't hurt that groin again...
 
PCmor7 said:
That would be applicable if his downs weren't abysmal. I just have trouble remembering a star player who looked this terrible this often as a blue chip draft pick. When he looks bad, he looks like a player who doesn't have any business in the NBA/
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That's what the Toronto press said about McGrady and he turned out to be one of the best. The circumstances aren't entirely the same, but the point is Scoot has also looked really really good. I'm not too worried.
 
Tince said:
He's shooting 40% with a 5:1 assist to turnover ratio tonight. Are you referencing a different game?
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I referenced it when he was like 1-for-7 and had just followed up one pullup that missed badly with a 3-pointer that missed even worse. I stand by the assessment.
 
PCmor7 said:
I referenced it when he was like 1-for-7 and had just followed up one pullup that missed badly with a 3-pointer that missed even worse. I stand by the assessment.
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So if he goes 7-8 in the first half next game should we call him a future HOFer?

He's already been a franchise PG, bust, stud, and now back to worrisome in less than a year.
 
AmirIcon said:
That's what the Toronto press said about McGrady and he turned out to be one of the best. The circumstances aren't entirely the same, but the point is Scoot has also looked really really good. I'm not too worried.
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OK, so it doesn't worry you. Great. What does that have to do with what I think about it.

And McGrady was a 45% shooter from the field and a 34% shooter from 3 averaging 1 turnover and 1 foul per game as an 18-year-old and was eighth in most improved player voting as a 19-year-old. Scoot's shooting numbers are considerably lower and his turnovers and fouls are a lot higher.
 
I don't think the twin towers worked very well defensively.
 
OG appears to be playing with 1 arm in a blowout.
 
Tince said:
So if he goes 7-8 in the first half next game should we call him a future HOFer?

He's already been a future all-star, bust, stud, and now back to worrisome in less than a year.
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That's hyperbolic. He was 1-for-8 last game. In his first three games coming back, he was 11-for-32 with 9 turnovers and 12 fouls. He started this game like 1-for-7 and had two fouls almost immediately.

To try to act like a trend is invalidated by a hypothetical 7-for-8 game is ridiculous. First, let Scoot have a game anywhere near 7-for-8 before you dream about him having one. He hasn't been anywhere near that ever this year. He has to string a few more games that are at least 45-50% shooting before we can start fantasizing about one good game trumping four straight very poor performances.
 
PCmor7 said:
That's hyperbolic. He was 1-for-8 last game. In his first three games coming back, he was 11-for-32 with 9 turnovers and 12 fouls. He started this game like 1-for-7 and had two fouls almost immediately.

To try to act like a trend is invalidated by a hypothetical 7-for-8 game is ridiculous. First, let Scoot have a game anywhere near 7-for-8 before you dream about him having one. He hasn't been anywhere near that ever this year. He has to string a few more games that are at least 45-50% shooting before we can start fantasizing about one good game trumping four straight very poor performances.
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I agree, judging off a half, or a few games, would be crazy. Really, coming to any conclusion in less than 50 games seems like a major rush to judgement.

I haven't seen near enough for me to be comfortable trading Ant to make room for him or to be worried.
 
Blazers trying to beat up Brunson. It doesn't seem to have any effect.
 
PCmor7 said:
OK, so it doesn't worry you. Great. What does that have to do with what I think about it.

And McGrady was a 45% shooter from the field and a 34% shooter from 3 averaging 1 turnover and 1 foul per game as an 18-year-old and was eighth in most improved player voting as a 19-year-old. Scoot's shooting numbers are considerably lower and his turnovers and fouls are a lot higher.
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The advanced stats aren’t even close

Scoot PER - 8
TMac PER - 17

Not to say Scoot can’t turn it around, but up until now, Telfair was better than him statistically at the same point in time.
 
PCmor7 said:
OK, so it doesn't worry you. Great. What does that have to do with what I think about it.

And McGrady was a 45% shooter from the field and a 34% shooter from 3 averaging 1 turnover and 1 foul per game as an 18-year-old and was eighth in most improved player voting as a 19-year-old. Scoot's shooting numbers are considerably lower and his turnovers and fouls are a lot higher.
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You're sharing on a message board so I'm assuming you want discourse. I didn't say you were completely unjustified.
 
Ayton with the palindrome stat line
 
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