Game Thread 2024-25 GAME #61 - BLAZERS @ CAVS - MAR 2, 2025 - SUN - 12:30 PM - CHARGE - BLAZERVISION
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We're tenth right now and we have one of the hardest schedules in the league over these last games. We'll likely end up with the 9th or 10th pick.
I really think if we lose tomorrow against Philly that we will lose 7 straight and then if we're smart we'll sit guys against Toronto and Washington. If we did that we could end the season on a 22 game losing streak and probably pass a few teams in the lotto standings. We won't do that though. We will win against Toronto both times we play them, we'll win against Washington, we'll win against the Spurs and Jazz, and we'll win a few other games against superior teams. So that means we'll go 8-13 the rest of the season and likely just maintain this 10th spot which is not ideal.
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This is how Sacramento stayed out of the playoffs for like 20 seasons. Not fully committing to rebuilds and hanging around the mid to late lotto.
Really exciting game and I've learned to embrace the wins as they are happening but make no mistake about it, our team is fucking up. This is how you mismanage a rebuild.
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Near the end of the game it became painfully obvious we were missing a #1.
Scoot was inexplicably on the bench.
Shaedon had his head in the clouds. Missed a ton of shots he usually puts down.
Ant was in black hole mode.
Deni was awesome most of the game but you don't feel comfortable when he has the ball sometimes.
I don't want the ball to end up in Bantons hands with 8 on the clock after our first three actions have been blown up.
Good experience i guess. Need Shaedon to show some fire especially when he was getting scored on so much.
Scoot was inexplicably on the bench.
Shaedon had his head in the clouds. Missed a ton of shots he usually puts down.
Ant was in black hole mode.
Deni was awesome most of the game but you don't feel comfortable when he has the ball sometimes.
I don't want the ball to end up in Bantons hands with 8 on the clock after our first three actions have been blown up.
Good experience i guess. Need Shaedon to show some fire especially when he was getting scored on so much.
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This is why our winning streak was dumb. How are we gonna get a number one?
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I hate to say it, but...
Ant should have hit the lay up for the win in regulation.
Refs should have called them running over Shaedon in the OT.
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Losing games by 20 wouldn't reveal these situations. At least we know who can or can't be that guy. I still think Shaedon or Deni can do it. Scoot is still a question mark. He has to play.
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pretty clear that isn't a priority of the Blazers
they seem content with gathering a a half-dozen #3's and #4's and hoping a couple will grow into #2's. Landing a #1 is a bridge too far for current owner/management imagination and patience
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Great game.
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Or maybe they think that guy is on the team already?
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that's kind of what I said
I don't agree obviously. I don't see a Giannis or Tatum or Curry or Durant or Jokic or SGA or even a Dame on the roster. Not even a younger version
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eh. shaedon has shown flashes. not sure how to change his mentality
that said... our 99/00 team didn't have THE GUY either, and we were one donaghy away from a title. if this roster can somewhat near that one, i'd be OK.
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They had a Top 50 player of all-time and an all-star. Combined with the deepest team, that can't be put together (salary wise) anymore in todays CBA.
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My read on Scoot is that he’s going to be a fantastic teammate and a really good starter. Not sure if he’s gonna be an all star unless he’s averaging 10+ assists.
Deni has some real potential. I think he has the right attitude. I’m not sure yet what his ceiling is.
Shaedon is the most frustrating. He has the highest ceiling as far as I can tell. He could be the guy. I’m just not sure if he has it in him. But he’s still so young. Curious to see what he becomes.
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c'mon...there's no comparison...that team won 59 games by the way and backtracking a few season would have still won 50
that team had guys who appeared in 21 all-star games, 8 all-NBA teams, and 11 all-NBA defensive teams. And that group of guys didn't include Sabonis, Brian Grant, Stoudamire, Steve Smith, Bonzi Wells, Greg Anthony and Stacy Augmon.
that was also 25 years ago when the NBA was very different. And it was about 5 CBA's ago when it was much easier to assemble talent, mainly because there was no luxury tax and Paul Allen was willing to spend lots of money. Jody is not Paul; Cronin is not Whitsitt
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Context is getting lost here.
I am not comparing the 24/25 blazers to thr 99/00.
I am saying they can MAYBE be in that mold in a few years, without a singular high usage scorer. Sheed led that team in scoring at 16ppg. Even adjusting for today's pace, that wouldn't be all that high.
And the HOF guy you're talking about was averaging 12ppg as our second leading scorer very clearly beyond his prime.
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For those of you getting angry at this game, please step back a bit. This same team 50 games ago would have been demolished by halftime against this sorta pressure on the road. Cavs are 28-4 at home. Even without Mitchell, that is a serious team and they play elite.
Our defense is vastly improved. And guys like Deni, Scoot, Tou, and Shaedon have taken tangible leaps. I hate that our lotto position is worse now but we are taking the right steps in development. If our wins earlier came because of only Ant/ Grant/Ayton and none of our future players were contributing, i too would have been upset. But our MVP this whole season has been Toumani. And his experience this year will pay massive dividends when we are winning. Can't expect these guys to just go lay down so the team can get a chance at drafting their replacement.
Our defense is vastly improved. And guys like Deni, Scoot, Tou, and Shaedon have taken tangible leaps. I hate that our lotto position is worse now but we are taking the right steps in development. If our wins earlier came because of only Ant/ Grant/Ayton and none of our future players were contributing, i too would have been upset. But our MVP this whole season has been Toumani. And his experience this year will pay massive dividends when we are winning. Can't expect these guys to just go lay down so the team can get a chance at drafting their replacement.
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sure. The Blazers might be like Indiana or Detroit or Houston or Memphis in 2 or 3 seasons. The Rockets really don't have a go-to guy that's dependable. Haliburton is the Pacers best player but he's not a #1 option. Memphis has Morant and Jackson so they do have a big leg up on the Blazers. I don't see any of those 4 teams as contenders right now, but it seems pretty clear contending is not on the agenda of Blazer ownership or management
I would really like the Blazers to commit to a Scoot-Sharpe-Camara-Avdija-Clingan starting lineup and run with it over at least a full season. I'd be quite curious what that team can do. But that sure doesn't look like the path Portland will take
I don't know what the Blazers are going to do but crunch time is coming. In the space of 1 year, Ayton, Simons, Timelord, Thybulle, Sharpe, Scoot, & Camara will all be getting new contracts. And Avdija & Clingan will be getting theirs a year later. 9 new contracts in 24 months. Something has to give.
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Whatever happened to Lamar Hurd?
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Personally I think this game was the perfect outcome. Our young guys get minutes, they played well..... and we lost.