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Ed O said:
His killer instinct was on full display two years ago when he was getting 8.9 ppg as a 20 year old junior, starting part time for Northern Colorado! :)

I know there are a couple of posters I like who like Knecht, but... I just am not buying it. Too little sample size with a game that I don't see transferring to the NBA for me to want him as a Blazer in the top 10.
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So what changed? Dude went to an extremely competitive conference and lit up the league.
 
Natebishop3 said:
So what changed? Dude went to an extremely competitive conference and lit up the league.
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He's three or four years older than lots of the other good players in his conference. That makes a difference. Part of it is experience, and being better due to hard work, and part is just being more physically mature.

I think that Sharpe and other Blazers will be a lot better when they're 23, and I believe it's likely that the 18, 19, and 20 year-olds in this draft will be, too.

edit: changed to "three or four", rather than "four or five" as my arithmetic was off :)
 
Ed O said:
He's three or four years older than lots of the other good players in his conference. That makes a difference. Part of it is experience, and being better due to hard work, and part is just being more physically mature.

I think that Sharpe and other Blazers will be a lot better when they're 23, and I believe it's likely that the 18, 19, and 20 year-olds in this draft will be, too.

edit: changed to "three or four", rather than "four or five" as my arithmetic was off :)
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He has a legitimately transferrable skill in shooting. He's a three level scorer. That usually translates to the NBA.
 
Natebishop3 said:
He has a legitimately transferrable skill in shooting. He's a three level scorer. That usually translates to the NBA.
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I agree, but Knecht is a rookie that needs to be drafted by a playoff team. The fact he is being considered in the lottery defeats that. I look at him like I do Grant/Brogdon. They have value on a team competing. Not Portland. Portland needs to swing for a player that is three years younger but has upside as an athletic shooter. That player could be better than what Knecht is now.
 
I don't know where I actually land on Knecht, other than wanting him, and wanting him to wear #4 for a top tier nickname, but the idea that being 23 years old is the reason we should be passing is ridiculous to me. Most guys hit their peaks at 28ish years old. So he's still 5 year away from that. Somehow a 23 year old is all of a sudden a win now piece not meant for a rebuilding team? Come on.
 
RR7 said:
I don't know where I actually land on Knecht, other than wanting him, and wanting him to wear #4 for a top tier nickname, but the idea that being 23 years old is the reason we should be passing is ridiculous to me. Most guys hit their peaks at 28ish years old. So he's still 5 year away from that. Somehow a 23 year old is all of a sudden a win now piece not meant for a rebuilding team? Come on.
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I think it's a couple things...

Firstly, being a 23 year old rookie suggests (again, this is alllll projection) that he probably doesn't have a lot of physical upside to untap. While its true that NBA players usually take until their mid-ish 20s to peak, a lot of that is understanding the nuances of the pro game, finding the right role to fit into, etc. -- I don't think I can think of a single mid-20s guy who somehow had some big jump in physical ability.

Even if you don't buy that, EVERYONE should be concerned about him being a 22 year old college player. Unquestionably that played some role in his on-court performance this season, there's no way it didn't. It'll be up to the scouting and player personnel departments to discern how much of a factor it played.

Add that all up and I see a guy with seriously limited ceiling and a very concerning floor, who at best, won't be more than a role player anyway.
 
Glazeduck2 said:
I think it's a couple things...

Firstly, being a 23 year old rookie suggests (again, this is alllll projection) that he probably doesn't have a lot of physical upside to untap. While its true that NBA players usually take until their mid-ish 20s to peak, a lot of that is understanding the nuances of the pro game, finding the right role to fit into, etc. -- I don't think I can think of a single mid-20s guy who somehow had some big jump in physical ability.

Even if you don't buy that, EVERYONE should be concerned about him being a 22 year old college player. Unquestionably that played some role in his on-court performance this season, there's no way it didn't. It'll be up to the scouting and player personnel departments to discern how much of a factor it played.

Add that all up and I see a guy with seriously limited ceiling and a very concerning floor, who at best, won't be more than a role player anyway.
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The two best players the Blazers have drafted in the past 40 years were 4-year collegians. Of course, they were 15 months younger on draft day than Knecht will be, but the "low ceiling" argument was lobbed at them too. Not suggesting that he's anywhere near their tier, but their development and success makes me less inclined to use age against a prospect.
 
RR7 said:
I don't know where I actually land on Knecht, other than wanting him, and wanting him to wear #4 for a top tier nickname, but the idea that being 23 years old is the reason we should be passing is ridiculous to me. Most guys hit their peaks at 28ish years old. So he's still 5 year away from that. Somehow a 23 year old is all of a sudden a win now piece not meant for a rebuilding team? Come on.
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I don't care about him being 23. My issue with him is that his first 4 years of college were very underwhelming.
He definitely has the potential to be a 1-hit wonder with his last season at Tennessee
 
PtldPlatypus said:
The two best players the Blazers have drafted in the past 40 years were 4-year collegians. Of course, they were 15 months younger on draft day than Knecht will be, but the "low ceiling" argument was lobbed at them too. Not suggesting that he's anywhere near their tier, but their development and success makes me less inclined to use age against a prospect.
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Aren't you sick of players who can't defend? If I knew Knecht could be an above-average NBA defender I'd be fine with him. Although I'm not sure I want him taking shots away from Shae. Knecht strikes me as a great player for an expansion team to take. He can be the #1 option on a shitty team, but can he be a vital part of a contender?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Aren't you sick of players who can't defend? If I knew Knecht could be an above-average NBA defender I'd be fine with him. Although I'm not sure I want him taking shots away from Shae. Knecht strikes me as a great player for an expansion team to take. He can be the #1 option on a shitty team, but can he be a vital part of a contender?
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Don't believe I said I was in favor of drafting Knecht-- simply that his age isn't really a good reason not to. His defense may well be.
 
Natebishop3 said:
He has a legitimately transferrable skill in shooting. He's a three level scorer. That usually translates to the NBA.
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I don't think it will. He doesn't have size or quickness to get his shots off well on his own and his perimeter shooting isn't that great... 39.7% was 39th in the nation in percentage and 117th in three pointers made and his previous years (38.1%, 36.1%) were even less impressive.

Compare that to Reed Sheppard: 52.1% from three and 53.6% overall FG%? That is impressive. That is shotting that I am confident will translate to the NBA.

Knecht is an older (Morrison wasn't quite 22 at draft time, and Knecht is already 23), smaller, less proven Adam Morrison as I see him. Maybe Morrison would have turned out OK without his early ACL tear, but I doubt it).
 
PtldPlatypus said:
The two best players the Blazers have drafted in the past 40 years were 4-year collegians. Of course, they were 15 months younger on draft day than Knecht will be, but the "low ceiling" argument was lobbed at them too. Not suggesting that he's anywhere near their tier, but their development and success makes me less inclined to use age against a prospect.
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They were over a year younger, but it's evidence age doesn't matter?

What if he were 10 years older? 20? Where is the limit of age not mattering, and why is 15 months older than your examples of older players who've succeeded insignificant?

The reality is that relying on age as a factor is smart, just like relying on height and speed and lots of other things.
 
Ed O said:
His killer instinct was on full display two years ago when he was getting 8.9 ppg as a 20 year old junior, starting part time for Northern Colorado! :)

I know there are a couple of posters I like who like Knecht, but... I just am not buying it. Too little sample size with a game that I don't see transferring to the NBA for me to want him as a Blazer in the top 10.
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I am just begging the NBA gods to have Knecht off the board by the time we are on the clock.
 
Ed O said:
I don't think it will. He doesn't have size or quickness to get his shots off well on his own and his perimeter shooting isn't that great... 39.7% was 39th in the nation in percentage and 117th in three pointers made and his previous years (38.1%, 36.1%) were even less impressive.

Compare that to Reed Sheppard: 52.1% from three and 53.6% overall FG%? That is impressive. That is shotting that I am confident will translate to the NBA.

Knecht is an older (Morrison wasn't quite 22 at draft time, and Knecht is already 23), smaller, less proven Adam Morrison as I see him. Maybe Morrison would have turned out OK without his early ACL tear, but I doubt it).
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Reed is 6'1.75 barefoot. That is super small by current NBA standards.

Knecht is just under 4 inches taller with a 6'9 wingspawn. He also can play off the ball, running off screens or spotting up.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
Why do you not like him -- I think he has the highest floor even if he is not as good of the players that MIGHT be available and he fits what this team needs -- shooting to take pressure off of Scoot
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There are a multitude of reasons I personally don't buy into Knecht as a prospect, many of which Ed O has already elucidated upon: he is an older prospect, limiting his potential for growth; this same age provided him with an advantage against the younger players he faced in NCAA ball and he still wasn't some kind of world-beater; I question whether his one good season was true growth or just being years more experienced; and I can't help but see Pat Connaughton as his most likely player comp.

I have been wrong most of my life. I personally would not draft the guy in the top ten, however.
 
Not sure where to put this as there are a bajillion threads, but my spidey senses are tingling and I like Holland at 7. Anyone agree? I think we gotta take one of Salaun, Williams or Holland. I don't see Williams still being there, and I prefer Holland over Salaun by a hair, but would be thrilled with either one.

Quick summation of the board consensus in terms of what majority wants, and vocal minorities so I don't have to read 100+ pages? Thanks in advance!
 
Natebishop3 said:
Reed is 6'1.75 barefoot. That is super small by current NBA standards.

Knecht is just under 4 inches taller with a 6'9 wingspawn. He also can play off the ball, running off screens or spotting up.
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But Reed is a PG and Knecht is a small forward. Reed has good size for a PG while Knect is on the small size for a small forward (and on the slow side for a shooting guard, but that's another post).
 
Ed O said:
But Reed is a PG and Knecht is a small forward. Reed has good size for a PG while Knect is on the small size for a small forward (and on the slow side for a shooting guard, but that's another post).
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Is Reed a point guard or can he play point guard in a pinch? I haven’t heard anyone really describe him as a point guard.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Is Reed a point guard or can he play point guard in a pinch? I haven’t heard anyone really describe him as a point guard.
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I heard he didn't do well against pressure. Panicked a bit when trapped. So my guess is, sure in a pinch, but not without help bringing it up the court.
 
Idog1976 said:
Not sure where to put this as there are a bajillion threads, but my spidey senses are tingling and I like Holland at 7. Anyone agree? I think we gotta take one of Salaun, Williams or Holland. I don't see Williams still being there, and I prefer Holland over Salaun by a hair, but would be thrilled with either one.

Quick summation of the board consensus in terms of what majority wants, and vocal minorities so I don't have to read 100+ pages? Thanks in advance!
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So, no one is willing to provide a thumbnail sketch? It's a lot to comb through 100+ pages when I know for a fact half of you live on this board. Pretty please with cherries on top?
 
Idog1976 said:
So, no one is willing to provide a thumbnail sketch? It's a lot to comb through 100+ pages when I know for a fact half of you live on this board. Pretty please with cherries on top?
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  • General consensus is (much like you said) that the Blazers should take one of Williams/Holland/Salaun at 7
  • Presumed that Sarr, Risacher, Sheppard and Castle are locks to go in the top 6
  • Buzelis is likely to go 5, though nobody knows what the Pistons will do.
  • Clingan could go #1, or could still be available at 7
    • Likely that if Clingan is there, Blazers take him
  • Most do not share your belief that Williams is off the board before the Blazers pick
  • Board is split on Salaun
  • Lot of discussion about Edey at 14
    • Many are on board with the idea, and many others are meh on him, but don't mind too much as long as we've taken a decent swing with 7
  • I've declared that Cronin is incapable of making a draft day trade, and have a few people on my side in that opinion.
 
If we had a spectacular small ball 5 like Bam then it would make sense for us to draft a guy that brings a completely different look off of the bench. Also if we had an established roster drafting for situational back ups would make sense. Neither of those are where we find ourselves.
 
https://www.rookiescale.com/2024-consensus-board/

Input sources include ESPN, The Athletic, Bleacher Report, The Ringer, Yahoo, Tankathon, For the Win, CBS, No Ceilings, NBA Big Board, and dozens of other boards/mocks from #DraftTwitter and other scouting outlets.

The consensus algorithm weights inputs based on date of publication, level of intel, scouting experience, depth of analysis, etc.

Updated: June 25, 2024
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7 Cody Williams, 14 Jared McCain, 34 Cam Christie, 40 Nikola Durisic.
 
jlprk said:
The Athletic mock dated today says we take Williams and Edey.

https://archive.ph/uU7d1
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If Portland could make this trade, and I wish they would, I really hope they would take Dadiet, not Flipowski for sure.
25. TRADE: Phoenix Suns trade pick (via Knicks) to Portland for No. 34, No. 40, and a future second round pick
 
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