#24 Anfernee Simons

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BBert said:
Kid is quick! What I liked (besides his shooting) was his demeanor. All business. Like Dame.
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I like that he's quiet, shy and not a big talker..Kawhi Leonard is like that...let your game do the talkin'
 
jlprk said:
http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft

Yes, at least one mock predicted the Lakers #25 for him. The Lakers are developing from a sub-.500 level and can wait years on high schoolers. As Olshey said in recent days, we need experience to bust to the top, now.
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So, which player would you have taken with the 24th pick that would have had the immediate impact necessary to propel us ahead of GSW and HOU.

BNM
 
handiman said:
I know next to nothing about Simons other than what I've read over the past week and seen this evening in skimming through his underwhelming pro day video, but I can't help but feeling, if you swapped the hype train of he and Fultz, the two players would be indistinguishable. Granted, I hated Fultz as a high lottery pick, but as a #24? That's a no-brainer.
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Fultz is much stronger, craftier, and has better footwork. I do see the similarities though.
 
BonesJones said:
The more I think about this pick, the more I like it.
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I'm way more stoked than I thought I'd be before we picked...Trent was a surprise but one I also really like...Simons upside is looking pretty good
 
riverman said:
I'm way more stoked than I thought I'd be before we picked...Trent was a surprise but one I also really like...Simons upside is looking pretty good
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Its night and day with me. Just like last year.
 
I feel if we drafted those players in reverse order and took Trent at 24 and Simons at 37 people would be comfortable with the outcome of the draft.
 
Sarni said:
He was projected around there though. Utah fans were pretty keen on him at 21 before they took Grayson Allen.
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I'm with Bones on this one. Drafting Trent at 24 I would've punched a hole through my wall because I would've been so pissed off. Trent was slipping big time in recent days. He's an okay early 2nd round pick but not giving up 2 future 2nds for. I think Khyri Thomas is going to be just as good of a spot up shooter and the difference in defense isn't even in the same universe.

So we could've had both an elite 3 and D wing and a project guard. I'd be doing back flips right now.
 
Simons is the first player since 2005 (which included Martell Webster) to land in the draft without playing in college or overseas.
 
jlprk said:
Simons is the first player since 2005 (which included Martell Webster) to land in the draft without playing in college or overseas.
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Good. If he played college next year, he could be a top 10 pick.
 
I don’t really get why people are so negative on the timeline for him. Let me sum this up:

He was supposed to go to Louisville next year as a five star recruit. If he turned out to be good there then he would have likely been one and done like most top prospects in the draft (2019 mocks had him going in the lottery). Plenty of one and done players contributed in NBA straightaway and it also goes for all top prospects this year - Ayton, Bagley etc. are expected to play already.

Instead for the next year he decided to go to NBA and will get top level coaching and get to train next to two elite players who play the same positions as he does. Why does it somehow limit his chances of contributing in 2019-20 compared to what they would be had he gone to Louisville as planned and came to the league a year later?

I get the competitive basketball argument but he can still have that in G-League and he can get bench minutes in NBA too.
 
Sarni said:
I don’t really get why people are so negative on the timeline for him.
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Olshey psyched us up to expect experience, maybe a 4-year draftee like Lillard or McCollum. He said that we're too close to the top for a youth movement. So everyone's surprised by a high school player, and a point guard at that, a leadership position which will take years for the kid to learn.

If Olshey hadn't led us to believe in the opposite direction he went, it would be easier to adjust to this surprise. (Another surprise was that he didn't trade up, but that's a separate disappointment.) But, people are adjusting. The kid will take up space for 2-3 years that would have been occupied by a bigger contributor, then maybe produce (like Crabbe eventually did and Connaughton and Leonard didn't). So we'll see in a few years from now. The kid won't play for a couple of years, so I'll just snooze until then and try to watch him in G-League.
 
You guys may be right. When he finally plays against men instead of boys, maybe he'll quickly become a star.

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jlprk said:
Olshey psyched us up to expect experience, maybe a 4-year draftee like Lillard or McCollum. He said that we're too close to the top for a youth movement. So everyone's surprised by a high school player, and a point guard at that, a leadership position which will take years for the kid to learn.

If Olshey hadn't led us to believe in the opposite direction he went, it would be easier to adjust to this surprise. (Another surprise was that he didn't trade up, but that's a separate disappointment.) But, people are adjusting. The kid will take up space for 2-3 years that would have been occupied by a bigger contributor, then maybe produce (like Crabbe eventually did and Connaughton and Leonard didn't). So we'll see in a few years from now. The kid won't play for a couple of years, so I'll just snooze until then and try to watch him in G-League.
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We have 15 roster spots, how will he take up space from someone who could be helping? That makes no sense.

Who did you want at 24, exactly? You never tossed out names. It's possible that a trade was impossible. Drafting a couple players doesn't mean it's a "youth movement",
 
I think Simons certainly has some upside down the road. It's just that he plays the same position(s) as the 2 best players on our team. So:

  • How long will it take him to develop?
  • How much playing time will he actually get?
  • With as much need as we have at wing, was getting a backup who will take time to develop the best we could do?

Now if he develops and we are able to trade CJ and get something of value down the road, and he can step into that spot.....great.
 
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