#24 Anfernee Simons (3 Viewers)

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Especially for an 24th pick, any 24th pick, but at least with college kids you have plenty of tape of them competing against players of comparable ability.

BNM

Like I said I don’t “dislike” the pick, we’ll see how it turns out.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

no way that package would be comparable to what New York wanted as they didn't want long term contracts.

I’m pretty sure the Knicks wanted NYC native Hark. It’s just that Melo didn’t wanna expand his teams. They ended up with Kanter, McBuckets, and 2nd rounder.

 

[Propagandist]

Like I said I don’t “dislike” the pick, we’ll see how it turns out.

...in 2025.

 

[Boob-No-More]

...in 2025.

When the Warriors are finally beatable?

BNM

 

[CupWizier]

I’m pretty sure the Knicks wanted NYC native Hark. It’s just that Melo didn’t wanna expand his teams. They ended up with Kanter, McBuckets, and 2nd rounder.

And Kanter

I’m pretty sure the Knicks wanted NYC native Hark. It’s just that Melo didn’t wanna expand his teams. They ended up with Kanter, McBuckets, and 2nd rounder.

NY needed a center not a wing player. Kanter also had one less year. No way they were interested in Turner or Leonards longer contracts and like you mentioned it was irrelevant with Melo having a no trade clause.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

And Kanter


NY needed a center not a wing player. Kanter also had one less year. No way they were interested in Turner or Leonards longer contracts and like you mentioned it was irrelevant with Melo having a no trade clause.

They didn’t need a center lol they had Porzingis, O’Quinn, Hernangómez, and Noah.

Im sure if they took Leonard they would’ve just ended up stretching his contract and getting him off the team.

 

[Reep]

Not sure why (other than 6'3" and skinny), but Simons reminds me a bit of young Steve Colter. Skinny guard with confidence. Simons is a better shooter though, and outweighs Colter by 15 lbs???

 

[BBert]

Not sure why (other than 6'3" and skinny), but Simons reminds me a bit of young Steve Colter. Skinny guard with confidence. Simons is a better shooter though, and outweighs Colter by 15 lbs???

Blast from the past!

 

[Propagandist]

And Kanter


NY needed a center not a wing player. Kanter also had one less year. No way they were interested in Turner or Leonards longer contracts and like you mentioned it was irrelevant with Melo having a no trade clause.

And Kanter.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I don't mean to beat the dead horse, but I'm looking at this like the Blazers traded the No. 24 pick in this year's draft, because they didn't see a difference maker on the board, for a top 10 (top 5 if I dream big) pick in the 2019 draft. Based on my assumptions, I think that's a pretty good deal. It doesn't matter if he doesn't contribute this year, this pick is for next year.

Agreed, that's a great way to look at it.

 

[CupWizier]

They didn’t need a center lol they had Porzingis, O’Quinn, Hernangómez, and Noah.

Im sure if they took Leonard they would’ve just ended up stretching his contract and getting him off the team.

They didn't want high cost long term contracts and the bottom line is Melo didn't want to be here so no chance of a trade. Not sure why this is even an issue

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

They didn't want high cost long term contracts and the bottom line is Melo didn't want to be here so no chance of a trade. Not sure why this is even an issue

I’m pretty sure Melo was about to expand us on his list, I think I read an article on that this past season.

And what is “high cost” about stretching the final year of Meyers contract? That’s like 2mil a season for 5 years.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Why are we STILL talking about Carmelo Anthony? We totally dodged that bullet and I'm 100% glad OKC took it squarely between the eyes.

Did no one watch him play last season? The guy was TERRIBLE. He put up a PER of 12.7, played ZERO defense and made $26 million (and is due another $27 million this coming season).

We are SO lucky he chose OKC over us.

BNM

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Why are we STILL talking about Carmelo Anthony? We totally dodged that bullet and I'm 100% glad OKC took it squarely between the eyes.

Did no one watch him play last season? The guy was TERRIBLE. He put up a PER of 12.7, played ZERO defense and made $26 million (and is due another $27 million this coming season).

We are SO lucky he chose OKC over us.

BNM

Ok, 1) Carmelo played within a horrendous system headed by Westbrook. 2) Harkless and Turner had worse PER. 3) Melo would’ve been expiring for us after this coming season, saving us another year out of at least 2/3rds of the summer of 16 abortion. 4) We could’ve easily replaced Harkless’ 6 points and slightly above average defense with a rookie like Jacob Evans.

 

[Labinot41]

Thats really cute, wish him all the best in Rip City

 

[Boob-No-More]

Ok, 1) Carmelo played within a horrendous system headed by Westbrook. 2) Harkless and Turner had worse PER. 3) Melo would’ve been expiring for us after this coming season, saving us another year out of at least 2/3rds of the summer of 16 abortion. 4) We could’ve easily replaced Harkless’ 6 points and slightly above average defense with a rookie like Jacob Evans.

Lol, Harkless PER = 12.6, Melo PER = 12.7.

Harkless plays very good defense (DBPM = 2.0), is 25 years old and makes $10 million. Melo plays ZERO defense (DBPM = -1.9) is 34 years old, is in RAPID decline and makes $27 million. He could be a grotesquely overpaid scorer off the bench, but refuses to come off the bench. No way in hell does that guy deserve to be playing 32 MPG for any team that has playoff aspirations. The guy is a prima donna whose play does not justify his attitude. No thanks!

BNM

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Lol, Harkless PER = 12.6, Melo PER = 12.7.

Harkless plays very good defense (DBPM = 2.0), is 25 years old and makes $10 million. Melo plays ZERO defense (DBPM = -1.9) is 34 years old, is in RAPID decline and makes $27 million. He could be a grotesquely overpaid scorer off the bench, but refuses to come off the bench. No way in hell does that guy deserve to be playing 32 MPG for any team that has playoff aspirations. The guy is a prima donna whose play does not justify his attitude. No thanks!

BNM

Harkless only plays when he feels up to it, and he always is hurt when it matters.

 

[THE HCP]

Let see what he can do in summer league

Qyntel Woods on Line 1

 

[Boob-No-More]

Harkless only plays when he feels up to it, and he always is hurt when it matters.

So, you prefer the way Carmelo "showed up" in the playoffs (PER = 9.7 on .375 FG% and .214 3FG%).

The guy is beyond DONE, but hasn't admitted it to himself, yet.

BNM

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

So, you prefer the way Carmelo "showed up" in the playoffs (PER = 9.7 on .375 FG% and .214 3FG%).

The guy is beyond DONE, but hasn't admitted it to himself, yet.

BNM

Yes, if it meant not having one of Turner or Leonard on the roster for an extra year.

 

[illmatic99]

So, you prefer the way Carmelo "showed up" in the playoffs (PER = 9.7 on .375 FG% and .214 3FG%).

The guy is beyond DONE, but hasn't admitted it to himself, yet.

BNM

Just sayin, Dame put up a 9.5 PER with 35% FG and 30% from 3 in the playoffs this year. Turner/Mo weren't much better.

 

[hoopsjock]

Exactly. The last high risk thing Olshey did was trading for Afflalo, and it didn't work. High risk is trading something of value for something that just might work but also might not. Like if we'd traded for Paul George or Carmelo (phew!) last summer. This taking a gamble on unknown quantities is different...because there is an out. If Simons doesn't work out, no one is going to lambaste Olshey about it--he's a child that went to high school for 5 years--but if it does work out then Olshey is a genius.

I'd say signing Turner was a big gamble too that also went poorly.

 

[Propagandist]

I'd say signing Turner was a big gamble too that also went poorly.

Very true. Although it was a universal head-scratcher, so almost should gave its own category.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Yes, if it meant not having one of Turner or Leonard on the roster for an extra year.

Neither Turner nor Meyers are prima donnas that demand to start when they don't deserve it. I'll gladly take an extra year of Meyers waiving a towel from the end of the bench over one excruciatingly painful year of Carmelo sucking up 32 MPG and starting.

Besides, it's not like this is the ONLY way to dump those guys. This time next year, they will be expiring contracts who may be movable elsewhere.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Just sayin, Dame put up a 9.5 PER with 35% FG and 30% from 3 in the playoffs this year. Turner/Mo weren't much better.

Apples:Oranges. NOP was trapping Dame with two 1st team All Defense players. Melo was the 3rd option on OKC and bricking all kinds of open shots. Not the same thing.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

This has probably been posted but whatever

 

[JoshuaHall]

Yes, if it meant not having one of Turner or Leonard on the roster for an extra year.

I’d take an extra year of both over Carmelo. Dude is a primadonna, cancer to team chemistry, and an increasingly worse basketball player.

I wouldn’t trade ET for him, all things being equal.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Qyntel Woods on Line 1

A very fat and highly underpaid Mexican version of Qyntel Woods with a wife that puts up with way too much, apparently....

 

[dviss1]

It's funny when people say things like, "I miss Trader Bob". This pick is exactly what someone like Trader Bob would have done. He always nabbed people like Simons. It's like gambling that he would be a lottery pick if he were in next year's draft.

I just looked at Trader Bob's draft history....

It's fucking abysmal..

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I just looked at Trader Bob's draft history....

It's fucking abysmal..

Yeah, Adelman would have LOVED to have had Simons.