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I'll own part of that. I haven't referred to him as a 'chucker' but have commented on the big differences between #LillardTime and non-Lillard time. One is Lights Out but combined with the other results in 42% shooting. I've gone into quite a bit of depth as to what can help with that but can't find it on here....maybe it was another forum or a podcast. Regardless, just coming down and launching when it's not #LillardTime would be a start. However, when he is on fire, heat check until the run is over by all means.

I saw you post a thread about that in the last day or so.. it was a good read!
 
Man... why do we only look at the surface? Dig bro... dig.

Okay to break your ramble down....

Davis has bounced around and has had 11 coaches in 4 years.. This is his first "Home" so yes I expect him to improve both in gelling with the team and improve his own shot. Aminu is the one guy who is probably almost at his peak, though I think he can improve his handles a bit if he works on it... again he is still YOUNG age wise.

Now here is where you lost me...Harkless has barely had real playing time in the NBA, so yes I expect him to get better. He is 22. He has never had any real consistency.
Plums has greart handles and ive seen significant improvement in his ft alone. I think he can improv his 12 foot jumper too., so yes.. more improvemant can be had.

Vonleh is as raw as raw gets... he has nothing but improvement to make and I see it happening and I see his confidence growing. No one said he would grow into an all star in one year. He had a moment of brilliance last night, but Im sure your blinders were on to that.


So now lets get down to the brass tacks.. The conflict of opinion isnt whether the team needs to improve. I think everyone member here believes we need to improve.

The conflict is who thinks we can improve within and who thinks we have reached our peak and need to replace to improve.


Honestly, I think we need a little of both, but in no way do I want to replace Noahs potential.. not now anyhow.


The problem I have and is frustrating me is that those that say we need to improve dont seem to think our current roster can improve... or have not made any statements of such.

You know what? Michael Jordan needed to improve his mid range shot in order to be better but the bulls didnt get rid of him. He developed it over the first 4 years of his career... then developed a 3 pt shot the last 6 years of his career.

Im quite baffled by your assumption that we cant improve anymore..
Your arguement has huge holes and is shallower than the kiddy pool. If your going to bring up descriptions of a players history, be accurate and complete. Don't just say he has been in the league 4 years so he is a vet. That's just foolish thinking....
A guy can ride the bench for a decade and never see the court... that makes him a vet???? come on.... be real with what your argueing or take that shit back to the crap station. :)

I will end this post reffering back to your first statement. Who is young on this team? Well considering we have the second youngest roster in the league and if you remove Kaman we have the youngest... I would say damn near everyone on the team.....

Rather than a lengthy diatribe, I will just say this: you are taking what I consider a negative and are trying to turn it into a positive. Harkless has been in the league 4 years without getting regular playing time? That isn't an excuse to think he is a future star - that is a reason to believe he isn't very good!

Do you honestly think teams draft guys like Harkless and Leonard and then deliberately hold them back? Do you honestly think their coaches didn't want them to succeed and gave them every chance to do so? Their failures are their own.

This is the Bayless situation all over again. Many Blazer fans thought Bayless was a future stud and couldn't figure out why Nate wouldn't give him more PT. Then he got traded and we saw why - he wasn't very good. Guys get stuck on the bench or bounce from team to team for a reason. Nate wasn't an idiot. Stotts isn't an idiot. Their prior coaches weren't idiots. These guys just aren't that special.
 
You people in here thinking that success is gained by having success need to pick up a book from the #1 motivational speaker in the world:

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Looking back over the past few drafts, if we had the 14th pick in the 2013 draft, we could have taken Giannis Antetokounmpo (15th pick). We could have taken Dennis Schroder (17th). Rudy Gobert was available (27th).

In 2011 Kawhi Leonard was taken 15th and Nikola Vucevic was taken 16th.

There are some good players that could be had in that 13-15 range, if you have a good scouting department.

A lottery pick is in the top 13.
 
Rather than a lengthy diatribe, I will just say this: you are taking what I consider a negative and are trying to turn it into a positive. Harkless has been in the league 4 years without getting regular playing time? That isn't an excuse to think he is a future star - that is a reason to believe he isn't very good!

Do you honestly think teams draft guys like Harkless and Leonard and then deliberately hold them back? Do you honestly think their coaches didn't want them to succeed and gave them every chance to do so? Their failures are their own.

This is the Bayless situation all over again. Many Blazer fans thought Bayless was a future stud and couldn't figure out why Nate wouldn't give him more PT. Then he got traded and we saw why - he wasn't very good. Guys get stuck on the bench or bounce from team to team for a reason. Nate wasn't an idiot. Stotts isn't an idiot. Their prior coaches weren't idiots. These guys just aren't that special.

Lol you nailed it
 

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