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Post your favorite JFK assassination theory.
 
LBJ had it done. Remember the wink.
 
It was Col. Mustard, in the Conservatory.

barfo
 
It was Col. Mustard, in the Conservatory.

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I'm thinking it might be intriguing to triangulate that with the book depository and grassy knoll.
 
but in all honesty, no chance Oswald did it.
 
I guess just my opinion from reading the Warren Commission report.
 
Red Dwarf did an episode using the assassination being as a plot, and I like their theory.
 
Went to the museum... took a pic from the window.... from behind the fence on the grassy knoll.... and one while standing on the "X" where he got hit........... felt kinda like a tool afterwords!
 
That whole event just fascinates me!
 
That whole event just fascinates me!

Me too, has since I was little. That's why I bought that Warren Commission report. Was an awesome read, going through all of the evidence and interviews, etc.
 
2 obvious reasons why Oswald didn't do it: The rifle was warped and almost impossible to shoot that accurrately, that many bullets that far away. And 2, if you watch the Zapruder film, you will see Kennedey's head snap backwards when he gets hit from the front.
 
I love it![video=youtube;9MLc0udf_74]
 
2 obvious reasons why Oswald didn't do it: The rifle was warped and almost impossible to shoot that accurrately, that many bullets that far away. And 2, if you watch the Zapruder film, you will see Kennedey's head snap backwards when he gets hit from the front.

Penn & Teller did a show debunking the JFK conspiracies. In the show, Penn did "ready, aim, fire" using the same kind of gun Oswald did, as many times and in less time than Oswald did.

They also put a cantaloupe on a stool and shot it and it fell off the stool toward the shooter. All the stuff spraying out the other end acted like a jet, making it go the opposite direction you'd expect.

I don't believe the gun was somehow warped and couldn't shoot straight.
 
E. Howard Hunt, the CIA leader of the Plumbers, who robbed the Democratic National headquarters in the Watergate Hotel, was long rumored to have been involved in the JFK assassination.

Before dying in 2007, Hunt not only confessed to his son that he was a "benchwarmer" in the JFK assassination--his son has HOURS OF TAPES with Hunt talking about it. You can look it all up. This is just an introduction.

http://www.infowars.com/landmark-e-howard-hunt-jfk-confession-video-tape-ignored/

Hunt gave his son the unusual name of Saint John.

http://saintjohnhunt.com/
 
Penn & Teller did a show debunking the JFK conspiracies. In the show, Penn did "ready, aim, fire" using the same kind of gun Oswald did, as many times and in less time than Oswald did.

They also put a cantaloupe on a stool and shot it and it fell off the stool toward the shooter. All the stuff spraying out the other end acted like a jet, making it go the opposite direction you'd expect.

I don't believe the gun was somehow warped and couldn't shoot straight.

I think taking the "evidence" of two comedian / magicians is probably not a good idea. A head is not really like a cantaloupe.
 
I think taking the "evidence" of two comedian / magicians is probably not a good idea. A head is not really like a cantaloupe.

Those comedians also took a group of people (off the street, not experts) out in the desert where they reenacted the assassination and most of them were able to make the kill shots.

[video=youtube;cF8UzWclbkA]
 
How in the desert did they re-enact a car driving down the street in Dallas, and being up in a warehouse? Did they build all that in the desert? Or just had people shooting a gun?
 
People shooting a gun from high up on a cliff.
 
I think Denny got you this time. A lot of these conspiracy theories are way too ridiculous.
 
Anyone who thinks Oswald acted alone is ignorant of the facts.
 
http://www.pennandteller.com/03/coolstuff/tellerspeaks/telleressayconspiracytheory.html

We wanted to reproduce this experiment ourselves, full action, highspeed camera. So I went with the crew to a gun shop with a firing range. The place was packed with people. More employees than Wal-Mart at xmas and several customers for every salesperson. And this was a Monday afternoon. On weekends there's a line out the door.

I met my instructor, Tony, a silver-haired, tan, 20 year veteran of the police force (where he taught firearms skills). Since retiring from the police, Tony has been teaching marksmanship and gun safety to hobbyists for fifteen years.

He's disgusted and incredulous at the sheer ignorance of anybody who doubts Oswald could have killed Kennedy.

"It was easy shot. Stevie Wonder could have made it," he said and reeled off the exact distances of Oswald's three shots. "I took my gun club out on the desert. We used the exact same make and model of rifle. We set up all the same distances and elevations. Nineteen of the guys hit all three shots, and the other four guys couldn't hit a bull in the ass with a coal shovel. And don't forget, Oswald only hit two out of three."

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It's hard to digest the idea that a pallid loser, Lee Harvey Oswald could annihilate radiant John Fitzgerald Kennedy, the most powerful and glamorous man on the earth. But after talking to Tony and blasting the brains out of a tape-wrapped melon, I'm triply convinced that the Kennedy assassination can be best described like this:

Oswald and Kennedy were men of flesh and blood. One of them pointed a gun at the other and shot.



Teller
 
http://www.skepticwiki.org/index.php/JFK_Assassination

In the Zapruder film, starting with the third shot at frame 313, the upper right part of Kennedy's head blows out forward, and his head lurches back and to the left. According to the conspiracy theorists, there is no way this shot could have come from the book depository; it had to have come from the front, perhaps from the grassy knoll. The reason why, they say, is that the bullet entered from the front of JFK's head and pushed his head backwards. A shot from behind, they tell us, would have propelled his head forwards.

This is completely wrong in every possible way. Bullets do not make such a splattering when entering, only with the exit wound. Frangible bullets would however produce this effect.

Also, there's no reason why a shot from the rear would move the head forward. It's a classic image in movies, where the hero shoots the bad guy and the bad guy is thrown backwards, but it just doesn't work. In Episode #25 of Mythbusters not even the most powerful firearms pushed the human-sized target in the direction of the shot. This would not be expected as all the shots were aimed at the dummy torso and not the head. The reason is obvious if you understand basic Newtonian physics: since for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, a shot that pushes the target in the direction of the shot must push the shooter back by a comparable amount.

Actually, that same Newtonian principle explains why JFK's head would have moved towards the shooter. The bullet doesn't meet much resistance as it enters and is going pretty much the same speed when it exits, but as it exits it also takes lots of pieces of skull and brain with it. This makes a kind of jet blast which propels the head in the opposite direction. This effect is easily confirmed by wrapping a melon in one-inch fibreglass tape and shooting it with a high-powered rifle. The melon actually moves toward the shooter. This demonstration was devised by Dr. Luis Alvarez, a friend of JFK, and was demonstrated by Penn and Teller in their book How To Play With Your Food and again on an episode of Bullshit!

The "Pristine Bullet"

Conspiracy theorists say that the second bullet, the one that struck both JFK and Connally, was far too pristine to have struck both men, and could not have been shot from Oswald's rifle. In Oliver Stone's film JFK, he accuses Jack Ruby of slipping the bullet into the hospital stretcher.

The problem with this claim is that the bullet isn't pristine at all. It has the flattening one would expect, and the markings and scratches on the bullet prove forensically that it was shot from Oswald's rifle.

Lee Harvey Oswald

His records show that on two occasions he scored 48 or 49 out of 50 when firing rapidly at a target twice the distance of Kennedy from the book depository. He qualified as a sharpshooter in 1956 by scoring 212 (2 above the minimum for qualification). In 1959, he only qualified as a marksman scoring 191 (exactly the minimum for qualification). In these three years in the marines, his rifle skills had deteriorated.
 

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