4K televisions are a waste of money

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Denny Crane said:
How often do you watch blu ray disks?

Also, I notice that the player only has HDMI 1.4a, which doesn't do 60Hz.

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thanks for this...I talked to the video mgr at Magnolia today about it. I don't watch a ton of blu-rays/dvds, but the ones I do are generally ones where I want high-quality video (and to a lesser extent, sound). I've already had to give up a bit of the audio stuff, b/c it, uh, "does not fit in with the décor aesthetic that we're going for". But for our apartment arrangement now we're only about 8' from the TV and going with the 55" and I want to futureproof as much as we can. So I'm waiting for the Oppo version to come out in the spring (once they've codified 4k Blu-Ray and added the HDMI 2.0/2.2).

Additionally, I think I want to use the Oppo as a sort of "video receiver" where I bring in my Netflix/appletv/cable into one middleware to pump output to the TV.
 
The tv upscale, so you may not need a DVDs player that does too.
 
from everything I've read, though, the upscaling algorithms/firmware are better on the Oppo than on a panel, especially if I'm not getting "flagship" quality. Could be wrong, though--which is why I'm posting here. :)
 
Depends on the TV. You absolutely want to use the Netflix app in the TV. Then hdmi is irrelevant. The TVs come with the decider/decompressor chip built in.

They may end up doing a 4K DVD standard. I'd wait for this.
 
I'd also wait for a 4K compatible audio receiver. The hdmi standard isn't final, last I checked. One you get today may become obsolete within months.
 
I am waiting this tech out like I am waiting on solar for my roof here. I figure in a few years both will be much better.
 
i saw 4k at best buy........... it looks fucking amazing. but heres the deal, there is not 4k programming on tv. so who cares. wait for it. by then, u get 10k programming.
 
I love good 4K. It's overkill in a lot of scenarios, but the kind that doesn't hurt unless you are one of the early adopters. The pioneers are always the ones with the arrows in the back. They get the thrill of discovery but the agony of overpaying for first-gen mistakes and false promises.

I shoot 4K a lot and watching it on a good calibrated 4K TV (sometimes with true 10-bit panels) can be almost a revelation. You don't know how bad the HD we are all currently used to is until you see footage and display all rendered in the ideal setting.

It's absured that people are paying $4-6K for ridiculous 80" 1080p TV's.
 
it's all gimmicks. they dont give a shit about the consumer, just swindling you.
 
Denny Crane said:
I'd also wait for a 4K compatible audio receiver. The hdmi standard isn't final, last I checked. One you get today may become obsolete within months.
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Talked to the guy @ Magnolia who went to the Oppo training sessions. He said that they're manufacturing them such that the 60Hz 4k will be upgradable through a firmware or box mod, rather than having to get a new system, and that the standards will probably be set summer of next year (though they said that about this year). With my inability to set up a sound system that I want (towers and speakers and big shiny boxes do not match with the "décor" that Mrs. FromWA wants in her home) I'm about to pull the trigger on the Oppo 105D for basically future-proof (with upgrades) 4k video, audiophile components (I got a set of B&W P7 headphones that I still need to find an extension cable for--the ones at BB and Radio Shack were both lossy/static-y as heck) and the ability to be an all-in-one audio/video solution. I can sell my receiver and the towers in storage. :sigh:

For guys like Bob and others who know more about components than I do: is a standard HDMI cable "good enough" for a one-cord HDMI setup for about 6' from Oppo to TV (which I've always thought, since HDMI is a standard in and of itself) or do I need something more exotic? And other than DiMarzio, anyone have a preferred headphone extension (probably 8' at most)?

Thanks.
 
There was a sweet 70" Vizio 4KTV at Costco the other day for $2K. Also had a 60" for $1600. Drool.

Those screen sizes are where 4K starts to make sense. Especially if you don't sit to far back from the TV.
 
Any of you guys ever rip your DVD's and Blu-rays for backup...and occasionally re-edit a scene for giggles?

I did this to 'Stand By Me' and 'Super 8'...dunno...just cuz. This is if Michael Bay ever decided to make a coming-of-age kid story with a classic "train dodge" scene.

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Elton said:
There was a sweet 70" Vizio 4KTV at Costco the other day for $2K. Also had a 60" for $1600. Drool.

Those screen sizes are where 4K starts to make sense. Especially if you don't sit to far back from the TV.
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CNET gives that TV 3.5 stars.

http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-p-series/

"The Bottom Line Despite great contrast and a market-busting price, the Vizio P series has too many picture quality flaws to claim the Holy Grail of 4K TV value."

I'm pretty sure it doesn't feature 3D. If I bought one of these TVs, I'd want the 3D capability.

My advice is to use a tape measure to measure the distance from where you would sit and where the TV would be. Then go to a store where they're on display and measure out the distance. Judge for yourself.

Personally, at 10' or more, I can definitely tell the 4K picture is way better than HD of the same size screen.
 
Interesting. I looked at both the Vizio's and a 75" Samsung and the Vizio just by default felt less aggressive with processing. Dunno--all I care about is if it's relatively easy to calibrate. I could perceive good dynamic range and damn, the price for that size was sweet.

With you on 3D--I'm one of the rare fans of the good 3D stuff but it is so few and far between. It might be a good idea to get a 3D capable set while they're still being made.
 
I think 3D may actually make it big with UHD sets supporting it. People will be buying for the UHD and they'll get 4 sets of glasses in the box and might be open to trying 3D content.

A lot of people liken UHD to the 3D fiasco. I'm quite sure UHD is going to be widely adopted, unlike 3D to date. However, I see lots of 3D DVD players and capable TVs for sale still.
 
I'm fine if 3D is just a throw-in, but it seems like the trend is for the less expensive 4KTV's coming out to just be 2D.

3D will be niche until it looks relatively natural and doesn't require glasses. Oh well
 
Denny--what's your favorite 3D flick? Mine is actually one of my kids faves--Coraline.
 
I don't have a favorite, and I don't have a 3D capable TV.

In the theaters, Gravity was awesome. Saw Guardians of the Galaxy in 3D and it was really good. Avatar was great in 3D.

Having 3D capable UHD means you get the choice of buying or watching a movie in 3D or not.
 
Whoops, deleted that as I meant to rephrase the question. Ah well.

Prometheus was actually better in 3D.
 
I have the power to undelete your post :)
 
You have e confused with the dog.
 
Denny, since you seem to be quite knowledgable on the subject--any 4KTV recommendations as far as bang-for-the-buck? I've been tempted by the LG's in the $1400-$2K range.
 
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