54 to 36

[tlongII]

That's the number of fouls called on the Blazers versus the number called on the Rockets in the games in Houston. Un Fucking Believable! This is just BULLSHIT! I am so mad right now I am about to EXPLODE!

 

[RoyToy]

Ron Artest has only committed 4 fouls in 4 games.

lolyeahright

 

[BlazerBeav]

Perhaps our coach should bring this up in the media tomorrow?

 

[Wheels]

Sad part it when I read the 54-36 I assumed that was their rebounding edge tonight. Thats why we lost.. cant blame it on refs.

 

[MAS RipCity]

are these numbers legit? wow, nate needs to make these facts public, b/c this is bullshit..we can't win if yao and artest are not being called for anything

 

[Toko]

Maybe if portland learned how to play defense instead of foul

 

[BlazerBeav]

Oh, and throw in that Scola jumper in the first quarter that was CLEARLY after the shot clock expired. Difference in the ballgame as it turns out.

 

[Wheels]

Oh, and throw in that Scola jumper in the first quarter that was CLEARLY after the shot clock expired. Difference in the ballgame as it turns out.

come on man.. we man up in the 4th quarter we win.. dont blame it on crap in the 1st quarter.

 

[BlazerBeav]

Guess what - interesting concept here - two points in the first quarter count just as much as two points in the fourth.

 

[MAS RipCity]

Oh, and throw in that Scola jumper in the first quarter that was CLEARLY after the shot clock expired. Difference in the ballgame as it turns out.

Totally agree, i forgot about t hat, but remember pointing it out..can't win a series 5 on 8

 

[rocketeer]

the rockets got the majority of the calls in the first half of tonight's game. joel's first two fouls and oden's first(and maybe second, i didn't really see it) were complete garbage.

but the blazers got the majority of the calls in the second half, especially in the 3rd quarter.

 

[BlazerBeav]

but the blazers got the majority of the calls in the second half, especially in the 3rd quarter.

Oh, would that be when Yao collected his one (and only) foul? Yeah, we were really racking up the calls. Or was that when Artest got his one (and only) foul? Battier his one (and only) foul?

 

[rocketeer]

Oh, would that be when Yao collected his one (and only) foul? Yeah, we were really racking up the calls. Or was that when Artest got his one (and only) foul? Battier his one (and only) foul?

battier and artest each had 2 fouls this game.

over a 6 minutes stretch of the 3rd, the rockets were called for 6 fouls and the blazers only called for 1. and it wasn't because the rockets were committing a bunch more fouls.

at the beginning of the game the calls went in the rockets favor. the rockets built a lead. then the calls began going in the blazers favor and that lead disappeared. game was decided in the 4th and it wasn't decided by the refs.

 

[Shooter]

come on man.. we man up in the 4th quarter we win.. dont blame it on crap in the 1st quarter.

Absolutely. No matter what happened early in the game, our fate was in our own hands in the fourth quarter and we choked. It wasn't the ref who poked the ball away from Blake, or who committed the offensive foul while driving to the hoop, or who took a rushed 3-pointer, etc., etc.

 

[alex42083]

We just settle for way too many jumpers so we don't get the fouls called. It's not until we're desperate and then we start driving to the hoop and put pressure on the defense. It's just stupid.

But it still doesn't excuse calling everything on G.O. and Joel. Fucking stupid calls. A 54-36 advantage is a pretty wide margin.

 

[Haakzilla]

FYI - total fouls were even for the first two games

 

[rocketeer]

We just settle for way too many jumpers so we don't get the fouls called. It's not until we're desperate and then we start driving to the hoop and put pressure on the defense. It's just stupid.

But it still doesn't excuse calling everything on G.O. and Joel. Fucking stupid calls. A 54-36 advantage is a pretty wide margin.

of course when you take into account the 7 intentional fouls at the end of the games(3 from this game, 4 from game 3) that the blazers committed, it drops to a 47-36 difference in fouls called.

 

[rocketeer]

That right there is the problem. It sets a tone for the game. From that point on, the refs made it clear that we couldn't be physical with Houston. On the other end, Houston grabbed and held and mostly got away with it.

the blazers were allowed to be more physical in the 3rd quarter and went into the 4th leading by 6 points.

 

[rocketeer]

That's not what I saw. We gambled more on defense by playing the passing lane. We also did a good job of closing in on Houston's drivers and blocked their shots. We got 3 blocks during a stretch of 5 possessions in the third, irrc. We also hit some big shots. It was a combination of Portland being hot on offense and Houston went a little cold. The refs weren't as involved in that third.

over a 6 minute period in the 3rd they called 6 fouls on the rockets and only 1 on portland. they were definitely involved.

 

[rocketeer]

can you recollect any of those calls as being bad or questionable?

yes, at the time i remember thinking multiple of them were questionable just as i remember the first 3 fouls on the blazer centers being complete garbage.

 

[rocketeer]

I know which stretch you are speaking of, but I don't remember any of them being egregious. I admit I might have had my rose-colored glass on though. Either way, I find it hard to fathom that a much more physical Houston team would be called for (a lot) less fouls than a soft defensive Portland team. How do you explain the fouls discrepancy in both games in Houston?

well 7 of the fouls were intentional fouls by portland at the end of the games. so those are explained pretty easily. oden has consistently been called for cheap fouls regardless of the opposition so if we assume that oden will have two completely garbage foul calls against him per game, that's 4 more fouls easily explained. take away those fouls and the advantage drops down to 43 to 36. that seems like a pretty reasonable amount to think that it might just be the difference between a team with a great defensive reputation and the effect of them playing at home rather than some conspiracy about the nba not wanting the blazers to win in houston.

these are my two favorite teams and i wish they weren't playing in the first round. i was mad at the start of the game when the calls were favoring houston and then mad again when the calls swung the other way and started favoring portland. but i don't think anything was out of line either way to suggest the refs in any way decided game 4 and i think the 4th quarter was officiated pretty well and fairly and that the players were able to decide the game. i actually was hoping the blazers would pull this one out to make it much more likely that the series goes 7 games. that didn't happen and now i would like the blazers to at least win game 5 to send things back to houston and see what happens from there.

 

[bluefrog]

A Lakers/Rockets series would bring huge ratings in China