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The vids from this are insane. I cant imagine going thru something like that.
 
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Denny -- space news.

Right at Japan's moment of glory on the Space Station, when their unmanned cargo craft, the H-2 Transfer Vehicle, is up there, the Japan space agency's headquarters have their ceiling cave in and their computers fall over.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1103/11earthquake/
 
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The usual gimmick accounts are hi-jacking an otherwise somber thread.

Good job, you two. Hope you had fun dancing on people's graves.
 
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It appears one of the reactor buildings exploded.

This is unreal.
 
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PapaG said:
The usual gimmick accounts are hi-jacking an otherwise somber thread.

Good job, you two. Hope you had fun dancing on people's graves.
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People die unexpectedly all the time. Humor is an extremely common coping response to sadness or fear. There have been many examples that prove it is not a coping mechanism of yours. I wish you wouldn't try to make people feel bad for this. They don't wish anyone to die. They aren't evil.
 
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VanillaGorilla said:
People die unexpectedly all the time. Humor is an extremely common coping response to sadness or fear. There have been many examples that prove it is not a coping mechanism of yours. I wish you wouldn't try to make people feel bad for this. They don't wish anyone to die. They aren't evil.
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Well, I am. But the rest of the crew here isn't.

barfo
 
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Our coroporate-owned media continues to report on the tsunami and mostly ignore and bury the bigger story of impending self-genocide as 5 nuclear reactors are now threatening to completely wipe out Japan and pollute all points west of Japan forever with airborne and seaborne radiation.

As with 3 mile Island and Chernobyl, the lies and cover stories are already obstructing the public from protecting themselves.

The Japanese psyche is tightly wrapped in a strange combination of inflated ego and overblown fear of shame, preventing them from admitting how bad things are and continually refusing the very help needed to minimize the damage. The US needs to step in immediately, with military force backing them up if that's what it takes, to protect our citizens and the rest of the world.

These are the real WMD's, and they're going off as we speak.
 
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Our media is reporting "Nuclear meltdown possible?" non-stop the past day or two.
 
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Denny Crane said:
Our media is reporting "Nuclear meltdown possible?" non-stop the past day or two.
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No mention at all of how that will affect us here, in the direct path of the fallout. No mention of how to protect one's family from fallout. No mention of the devastation of the world's oceans and food chain that will result from the deliberate dumping of nuclear material into the Pacific that started yesterday. No mention of the fact that our government is doing NOTHING to protect us from this carnage.
 
MARIS61 said:
No mention at all of how that will affect us here, in the direct path of the fallout. No mention of how to protect one's family from fallout. No mention of the devastation of the world's oceans and food chain that will result from the deliberate dumping of nuclear material into the Pacific that started yesterday. No mention of the fact that our government is doing NOTHING to protect us from this carnage.
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Two obvious points. The media has had numerous experts on, talking about plumes and drift...

And why expect govt. to save us? :lol:
 
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Denny Crane said:
Two obvious points. The media has had numerous experts on, talking about plumes and drift...

And why expect govt. to save us? :lol:
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I don't. It's far beyond their capability in this instance.

But they have a responsibility to be open and honest with us and warn us of known threats to our welfare.

And there are steps they could take to minimize the threat.
 
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Bloomberg seems to be corporate owned media. Good find.
 
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19:45 12 MAR 2011

(AGI) Washington - A US nuclear expert said the accident at the Fukushima nuclear plant is one of the three worst in history.
The head of the Ploughsares Fund, Joseph Cirincione, also warned that it could become a "complete disaster" unless a full meltdown of the reactor's core is prevented. According to the nuclear expert, "this is going to go down in history as one of the three greatest nuclear incidents if it stops now" after the 1986 Chernobyl disaster and the meltdown of the Three Mile Island reactor, in Pennsylvania, in 1979. Cirincione, however, claimed that the information provided by the Japanese authorities is insufficient. . .

http://www.agi.it/english-version/w...xpert_nuclear_plant_accident_among_worst_ever
 
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-plant-accident-puts-Tokyo-under-a-cloud.html


Tokyo, at least, appeared to have got away without the scale of casualties seen in other parts of Japan. That was before news of an explosion, and warnings of a possible "meltdown", at the Fukushima nuclear power plant. As the evening turned to night, the world's second-largest metropolis was still waiting to know whether it had been exposed to what would be perhaps the world's worst nuclear disaster.

"A Chernobyl-type leak here would be far worse than in Russia," said Lee Uranaka, a passer-by in Tokyo's Ginza shopping and nightlife district. "That was a relatively-lightly populated area. There are 30 million people in range of this nuclear power station."

At 10pm on a Saturday night, the Ginza intersection would normally be thronged. It is Tokyo's Piccadilly Circus, almost the epitomy of intense urban life. Instead, it was like Morecambe in February. You could lie down in the middle of the street and not get run over. The 30 million citizens were sitting at home, trying to learn whether they had been infected.

Official nuclear safety authorities warned that the plant, about 160 miles northeast of Tokyo, "may be experiencing a nuclear meltdown." Blanket evacuation orders were issued for thousands of residents within first a six, and then a twelve, mile radius. Iodine tablets, antidotes to radiation, were distributed in the local area and beyond.

Police set up roadblocks to stop journalists getting close. Radioactivity at the site's gates was reported to be eight times normal levels. An official "hyper rescue team" from the nuclear agency was dispatched to try and stave off potential disaster at the reactor.

Television channels told people to stay indoors, turn off air-conditioning and not drink tap-water. If they had to leave their homes, the channels said, they should avoid exposing their skins, and cover their faces and hands with wet towels. States of emergency were declared at four other nuclear installations.

Government spokesmen called for calm, never a very calming sign.

Directors of Tepco insisted that the damage was to the building housing the reactor only, not to the reactor itself, and that radiation in the area remained with "assumed levels," whatever that meant.

But local residents told The Sunday Telegraph that they did not trust Tepco.

Several of the company's senior management were forced to resign in 2002 for falsifying nuclear safety records in 29 cases. It also had to stop operations at five of its reactors, including the one damaged in the latest earthquake, for safety reasons. "We know that they have lied in the past," said one man in Ginza. "They may be wanting to stop panic now."
 
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MARIS61 said:
19:45 12 MAR 2011

(AGI) Washington - A US nuclear expert said the accident at the Fukushima nuclear plant is one of the three worst in history.
The head of the Ploughsares Fund, Joseph Cirincione, also warned that it could become a "complete disaster" unless a full meltdown of the reactor's core is prevented. According to the nuclear expert, "this is going to go down in history as one of the three greatest nuclear incidents if it stops now" after the 1986 Chernobyl disaster and the meltdown of the Three Mile Island reactor, in Pennsylvania, in 1979. Cirincione, however, claimed that the information provided by the Japanese authorities is insufficient. . .

http://www.agi.it/english-version/w...xpert_nuclear_plant_accident_among_worst_ever
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Wouldn't the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki be considered the two worst "nuclear incidents"?
 
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http://www.accuracy.org/release/threat-of-nuclear-disaster-in-japan/

KEVIN KAMPS
Kamps is a specialist in nuclear waste at Beyond Nuclear. Last year he was in Japan assessing the state of nuclear facilities there. He said today: “The electrical grid is down. The emergency diesel generators have been damaged. The multi-reactor Fukushima atomic power plant is now relying on battery power, which will only last around eight hours. The danger is, the very thermally hot reactor cores at the plant must be continuously cooled for 24 to 48 hours. Without any electricity, the pumps won’t be able to pump water through the hot reactor cores to cool them. Once electricity is lost, the irradiated nuclear fuel could begin to melt down. If the containment systems fail, a catastrophic radioactivity release to the environment could occur.

“In addition to the reactor cores, the storage pool for highly radioactive irradiated nuclear fuel is also at risk. The pool cooling water must be continuously circulated. Without circulation, the still thermally hot irradiated nuclear fuel in the storage pools will begin to boil off the cooling water. Within a day or two, the pool’s water could completely boil away. Without cooling water, the irradiated nuclear fuel could spontaneously combust in an exothermic reaction. Since the storage pools are not located within containment, a catastrophic radioactivity release to the environment could occur. Up to 100 percent of the volatile radioactive Cesium-137 content of the pools could go up in flames and smoke, to blow downwind over large distances. Given the large quantity of irradiated nuclear fuel in the pool, the radioactivity release could be worse than the Chernobyl nuclear reactor catastrophe of 25 years ago.”
 
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MARIS61 said:
KEVIN KAMPS
Kamps is a specialist in nuclear waste at Beyond Nuclear. Last year he was in Japan assessing the state of nuclear facilities there. He said today: “The electrical grid is down. The emergency diesel generators have been damaged. The multi-reactor Fukushima atomic power plant is now relying on battery power, which will only last around eight hours. The danger is, the very thermally hot reactor cores at the plant must be continuously cooled for 24 to 48 hours. Without any electricity, the pumps won’t be able to pump water through the hot reactor cores to cool them. Once electricity is lost, the irradiated nuclear fuel could begin to melt down. If the containment systems fail, a catastrophic radioactivity release to the environment could occur.

“In addition to the reactor cores, the storage pool for highly radioactive irradiated nuclear fuel is also at risk. The pool cooling water must be continuously circulated. Without circulation, the still thermally hot irradiated nuclear fuel in the storage pools will begin to boil off the cooling water. Within a day or two, the pool’s water could completely boil away. Without cooling water, the irradiated nuclear fuel could spontaneously combust in an exothermic reaction. Since the storage pools are not located within containment, a catastrophic radioactivity release to the environment could occur. Up to 100 percent of the volatile radioactive Cesium-137 content of the pools could go up in flames and smoke, to blow downwind over large distances. Given the large quantity of irradiated nuclear fuel in the pool, the radioactivity release could be worse than the Chernobyl nuclear reactor catastrophe of 25 years ago.”
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He added "on the bright side, the plant was getting a little old and needed to be replaced anyway".

barfo
 
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This site seems to be light years ahead of the rest on providing accurate information on what is unfolding.

http://www.beyondnuclear.org/

Obviously they are anti-nuclear, but current events suggest that's not necessarily a bad thing.

At least they are not burying or ignoring the story.
 
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Is everyone still whining about a little tiny tidal wave?

Back in the day, Americans were strong. We didn't cry about water. We found the silver lining and went swimming. That's what's gone wrong. Reagan and his two bushes supported us with all this debt instead of cutting back like Carter and Clinton wanted.

What's another thousand deaths? You want real deaths, go to Iraq. A hundred thousand deaths here, a hundred thousand deaths there, it starts to add up. Pretty soon, we're arguing over whether it's over a million yet.

Why is the media so concerned about a couple thousand Japanese and a couple hundred Libyans? We have two wars to fight, with a third on the way in Libya. Let's get back to the killing and stop the fake humanitarianism.
 
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