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is it really outside the realm of possibility to some of you that we arent being told the whole truth?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
is it really outside the realm of possibility to some of you that we arent being told the whole truth?
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Then would it be surprising that we didn't "find" WMDs in Iraq? They had all the reason in the world to "find" them

By "find" I mean send in some Ollie North types to plant WMDs to be found.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
is it really outside the realm of possibility to some of you that we arent being told the whole truth?
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I for one have never been believed we've been told the whole truth. IMO, there is no way in hell the training the terrorists received in small planes here in the USA would be enough knowledge and skill to pilot the large commercial planes that perfectly hit their targets. At the time of the attacks there was only one commercial aircraft flight simulator in the middle east and that was in Saudi Arabia, run by their air force. While I don't think the Saudi air force knew what the terrorists were planning I do think the terrorists trained there. Much of the terrorist's connections to Saudi Arabia has been deleted from the public record for national security reasons.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I for one have never been believed we've been told the whole truth. IMO, there is no way in hell the training the terrorists received in small planes here in the USA would be enough knowledge and skill to pilot the large commercial planes that perfectly hit their targets. At the time of the attacks there was only one commercial aircraft flight simulator in the middle east and that was in Saudi Arabia, run by their air force. While I don't think the Saudi air force knew what the terrorists were planning I do think the terrorists trained there. Much of the terrorist's connections to Saudi Arabia has been deleted from the public record for national security reasons.
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http://www.911myths.com/Another_Expert.pdf
 
Denny Crane said:
http://www.911myths.com/Another_Expert.pdf
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I know, we've had this discussion before. You always post that same link when it addresses conspiracies I don't mention or believe in. Since some of the funding and terrorists came from Saudi Arabia it is not inconceivable to believe that they didn't receive some training there as well.

There is one way to prove or disprove this, give 100 random people the training that the official 9/11 report said the terrorists received and see if 75 of them can hit their targets in flight simulators.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I know, we've had this discussion before. You always post that same link when it addresses conspiracies I don't mention or believe in. Since some of the funding and terrorists came from Saudi Arabia it is not inconceivable to believe that they didn't receive some training there as well.

There is one way to prove or disprove this, give 100 random people the training that the official 9/11 report said the terrorists received and see if 75 of them can hit their targets in flight simulators.
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I've never posted that link before. The key thing in that document is the actual training and level of license the hijackers had. They were well trained.

I used to crash planes into the hancock building in MS Flight Simulator all the time. It's simply not that hard to do.

3 of the 4 hijackers were able to crash into big buildings. 75% success rate.
 
Denny Crane said:
3 of the 4 hijackers were able to crash into big buildings. 75% success rate.
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That's why I said 75 out of a 100 in a controlled simulation. See if the 75% success rate can be duplicated.
 
I called Obama to ask him to do the random 100 person test. He hasn't returned my call.
 
Denny Crane said:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/523414/posts
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From the comments:

To: The Electrician

I remember fooling around with Flight Simulator over ten years ago. I must have crashed into the Hancock Building half a dozen times. Not so funny anymore.

3 posted on 09/14/2001 1:25:41 PM PDT by mountaineer
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Earlier post from Denny:

Denny Crane said:
I used to crash planes into the hancock building in MS Flight Simulator all the time.
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Denny confirmed as a Freep participant.
 
Denny Crane said:
Then would it be surprising that we didn't "find" WMDs in Iraq? They had all the reason in the world to "find" them

By "find" I mean send in some Ollie North types to plant WMDs to be found.
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I've thought that before but what consequence did not finding them actually have?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
I've thought that before but what consequence did not finding them actually have?
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It made the "unjust war" claim seem valid. But if they're going to lie, why not plant the WMDs?
 
Denny Crane said:
It made the "unjust war" claim seem valid. But if they're going to lie, why not plant the WMDs?
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This is a strange argument. "You sometimes lie, so if you ever don't lie about something, that means you never lie"

I mean the whole "WMD" thing was a lie in the first place. But like I said, what consequence did not finding them actually have?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
This is a strange argument. "You sometimes lie, so if you ever don't lie about something, that means you never lie"

I mean the whole "WMD" thing was a lie in the first place. But like I said, what consequence did not finding them actually have?
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Consequences? Lost the house and senate in 2006, lost the presidency in 2008. Obama ran on an anti-war platform. Hillary voted for it and was beaten by Obama.

Look, if they're going to lie and hide big things from us, the WMDs would make the most sense of anything. If they lied and covered up some scheme to perpetrate 9/11, they'd obviously double down, triple down, etc., to justify the war.
 
The CIA controls the military industrial complex, not the Republicans. The CIA could likely care less about them losing the house or the senate or whatever. They got what they wanted, then got the voters to double down with Obama. Now they are poised to swing to the far fright and finally build those space lasers.
 
Wait, did you really think I was inferring George Bush orchestrated 9/11? Do you think he could orchestrate "finding" wmds without CIA approval?

:lol:
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
I have no doubt they were trying "to do it in the least friendly, most painful way."

Again, that's why reviewing the pictures are unnecessary, and I personally don't care to view them or have them exposed in any sort of manner that exposes my children to them. The acts are beyond evil, regardless. Reprehensible. The pictures don't change my feelings. Guilty parties participating in the behavior need swift and sharp reprimand (and in some cases, some have been). I hope there's more punishment to come for the guilty parties.
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And by reprimand I hope you mean 20 years hard labor at Leavenworth. Rape is a brutal and sadistic act of cowardice, and it's a major crime regardless of the rapist's occupation or employer.
 
We should let Yega1979 back just to post in this thread.
 
maxiep said:
We should let Yega1979 back just to post in this thread.
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Who is Yega1979 and in checking the mod logs I don't see that one has ever been banned. I also checked for a Yega.

I did find a Ya Need Rasheed and a Yee.
 
I guess Yega didn't make the trip. He was on BBF and was awesome!
 
I thought I saw him on S2 in the early days. I could be mistaken.
 
MARIS61 said:
And by reprimand I hope you mean 20 years hard labor at Leavenworth. Rape is a brutal and sadistic act of cowardice, and it's a major crime regardless of the rapist's occupation or employer.
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Yeah, no shit. You think?
 
Wasn't Putin going to release "proof" that this was an inside job?
 
My daughter's 8th birthday was 9/11/01. It was tough helping her deal with the whole thing, and what became of her birthday.

A couple of years ago, when she turned 18, the Oregonian did a video piece about her and how 9/11 affected her life. I am very proud of my girl. Thought my boys here might want to see it -

http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2011/09/september_11th_anniversary_por_1.html

Happy 21st birthday sweetie!

God bless us all, every one.
 
Stevenson said:
My daughter's 8th birthday was 9/11/01. It was tough helping her deal with the whole thing, and what became of her birthday.

A couple of years ago, when she turned 18, the Oregonian did a video piece about her and how 9/11 affected her life. I am very proud of my girl. Thought my boys here might want to see it -

http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2011/09/september_11th_anniversary_por_1.html

Happy 21st birthday sweetie!

God bless us all, every one.
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Awesome. Tell her, "Denny Crane says happy birthday."
 
Today's my brother's wedding anniversary. Easy to remember, but it's tough to cut loose and celebrate. I usually just show up the weekend before or the weekend after with a shitload of Coors Light and something to throw on the grill...
 
BlazerWookee said:
Today's my brother's wedding anniversary. Easy to remember, but it's tough to cut loose and celebrate. I usually just show up the weekend before or the weekend after with a shitload of Coors Light and something to throw on the grill...
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Okay. So in other words, you treat their anniversary like every other weekend in your life?
 
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