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riverman said:
ooooohhhhhh! what will we do? fine them? They'll say....you kicked me out already...just kick me out again...see you Saturday!
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Fines for construction companies is huge. Sorry to keep bursting your bubble. Hey don't worry about it. Everything will pass and you will see first hand if it works or not
 
SlyPokerDog said:
So there aren't tons of janitorial and landscaping companies out there that are comprised of nothing but illegals?

There are 11 million illegals here in this country and all of them are drug dealers? No one employing any of them?
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High schoolers and teens early in college can make a decent wage like they used to. WIN!
 
magnifier661 said:
E-verify applies to independent contractors too. Remember Trump getting dinged for hiring a independent contractor that used illegals? Try again please
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“E-Verify today is largely a volunteer system where employers can check the employment status of workers after they have hired them as part of the I-9 process,” Calabrese told the NewsHour. “It’s mandatory for federal contractors and in some states, and it’s also mandatory for most government workers.”

The program, while still voluntary, receives typically high marks for its usability, according to Calabrese, but its error rate is difficult to discern. The program, he said, currently skews to larger employers who can handle the processes with a how-to-manual spanning 80-pages.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/5-things-you-should-know-about-e-verify/
 
SlyPokerDog said:
The wall doesn't stop the problem.

Businesses can still hire them.
Landlords can still rent to them.
Banks can still lend to them.

So we can profit off of them being here, we're just going to make it harder for them to get here.

That doesn't make sense.
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How do we profit off of them being here? You act like no other country has a massive flow of illegals doing the busywork. Most of the other countries just import filipinos. :MARIS61:
 
SlyPokerDog said:
“E-Verify today is largely a volunteer system where employers can check the employment status of workers after they have hired them as part of the I-9 process,” Calabrese told the NewsHour. “It’s mandatory for federal contractors and in some states, and it’s also mandatory for most government workers.”

The program, while still voluntary, receives typically high marks for its usability, according to Calabrese, but its error rate is difficult to discern. The program, he said, currently skews to larger employers who can handle the processes with a how-to-manual spanning 80-pages.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/5-things-you-should-know-about-e-verify/
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Mandatory e-verify is the new idea.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
How do we profit off of them being here? You act like no other country has a massive flow of illegals doing the busywork. Most of the other countries just import filipinos. :MARIS61:
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No, this problem is a lot more complex than building a wall. If we want to get rid of illegals then lets get rid of the incentives for them coming here.
 
magnifier661 said:
If the illegals leave those "so called" unworkable US jobs, there are plenty of high school and college teens ready to make some cash. What don't you understand?
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How will a wall make the Mexicans that are already here leave jobs?
 
riverman said:
Hopefully, without Planned parenthood they'll maybe have 3 or 4 babies to feed by then
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Planned Parenthood will still exist and provide services without federal grants. That money only makes up a very small percentage of their revenue.

P.s. You can always donate to them to support their cause. Just leave the government out of it.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
How will a wall make the Mexicans that are already here leave jobs?
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I was replying to your post that those jobs would be vacant because illegals work them. If you are playing hypothetical than I can as well good sir.
 
I do donate to charities...2 of them...both involved in disaster relief and humanitarian work in the poorest regions of the world....Trump buys paintings of himself with his donations
 
magnifier661 said:
I was replying to your post that those jobs would be vacant because illegals work them. If you are playing hypothetical than I can as well good sir.
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Again, this is a much more complex problem then just building a wall. You have to stop the rewards/incentives for them coming here first or at the very least simultaneously. All a wall is is a very big hurdle.
 
riverman said:
I do donate to charities...2 of them...both involved in disaster relief and humanitarian work in the poorest regions of the world....Trump buys paintings of himself with his donations
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You might as well just spend that money commissioning a picture of yourself, the money all goes to run the charity. Its a total scam!
 
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