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riverman said:
nomadic people...might move into your backyard Denny....these are folks who know how to be displaced
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I live among indians. I have no beef with them. However, it's only common sense that if Trump insists on building a wall and has to go around this one tribe's land, the tribe will be on the mexico side of the wall that will be built around their land.

As shitty as their situation can be on this side of the wall, the other side is going to be a lot worse.
 
oldfisherman said:
If Trump's wall is built along the entire border from San Diego to Texas, more tunnels will be built by the drug cartels.
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See? Trump TOLD y'alls he was a job-creator!

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Rastapopoulos said:
You live among Indians. In your Trump-loving neighborhood in San Diego. That is indeed...surprising.


How 'bout you go live on an actual Indian reservation and report back?
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Where I am now is surrounded by indian reservations. If I drive 15 minutes, I might run into Obama and his family.

There is a spot here right on the san andreas fault where there is an oasis with thousands of palm trees. The indians have gone there for centuries because it's 20 degrees cooler than in the surrounding desert.

The Cahulla and Cupeno indians are prominent here, but there are others as well.

But you know it all, or something.
 
Denny Crane said:
I have no beef with them
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you posted if they complained about the wall they should get put on the Mexican side.......I grew up across the valley from a reservation..could see it from our farm....newsflash Denny ...we all live amongst the Native Americans.....let's not let people get in the way of a wall or pipeline eh?
 
riverman said:
you posted if they complained about the wall they should get put on the Mexican side.......I grew up across the valley from a reservation..could see it from our farm....newsflash Denny ...we all live amongst the Native Americans.....let's not let people get in the way of a wall or pipeline eh?
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It's not my choice to build this wall or to choose to force the wall be built around the Indian reservation.

It's well documented here that I favor no wall at all, or in limited places for safety reasons. And a free and open border.

There are plenty of Indians who favor the pipelines.
 
But, but, but....."the wall" was supposed to be only figurative, right? Some of you thought he never REALLY intended to build an ACTUAL wall, right? RIGHT?!
 
Mexico's prez announced he will not meet or speak with Trump...cancelled the talks...Trump is going to find out bullying isn't going to get the results he expected around the globe
 
The Professional Fan said:
But, but, but....."the wall" was supposed to be only figurative, right? Some of you thought he never REALLY intended to build an ACTUAL wall, right? RIGHT?!
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Who didn't?

If anything, people may not have believed it would be one big long solid wall across the whole border.

He was quite clear he intended to build this wall.
 
Denny Crane said:
Who didn't?

If anything, people may not have believed it would be one big long solid wall across the whole border.

He was quite clear he intended to build this wall.
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I thought initially it was more figuratively; in terms of a multi-faceted approach at fixing immigration.

But I am totally cool with a big beautiful yuge wall.
 
How excited are we to all pay a 20% tariff, for a wall that a person with a ladder could get past? YaY!?!?
 
China is going to give Mexico the money for the wall in exchange for a nice big military base next to our border.
 
Pay off a teeny bit of Obama's debt.
 
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I don't know about @blue32, but Trump started his campaign (republican primaries) with the wall, and ended his campaign promising the wall.

Pretty obvious to me he intended to build the wall.

With the realities that it's physically impossible to build one continuous wall, due to geography (like a canyon or mountain or whatever), it's obvious he's not going to build one continuous wall. Certain people have made a mountain out that molehill ("he lied, he's not building one continuous wall!"), but I don't find his intent to have changed in the least.

The wall thing is among the least likable things about Trump's program. I don't agree with him that immigrants are hurting the country economically or in any other way.

If you paid attention to him, he was accusing the Mexican government of emptying its prisons and mental hospitals and sending those people here. I haven't seen evidence of that, but Castro did do that to us in the 70s.
 
I'm not generally a fan of trade wars, but tariffs are how the government used to be funded - well into the 1900s even.

We get a lot of produce from Mexico and the automakers build cars there to sell here.

A 20% tariff is going to make those things go up, or we can pay about the same for food grown here and cars made here.

It's not really us who's going to feel the sting of this proposed tariff. It will almost certainly be Mexico.

I also don't know if all the hate toward NAFTA is well founded. Seems to me Texas and California, both border states, are doing incredibly well.
 
To add, I'm pretty sure the US is a net exporter of food.
 
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