About That Bill Burton/Soptic Ad About the Dead Wife... (1 Viewer)

[PapaG]

Fucking ghoulish Obama and his surrogates. Using CANCER to try and buy votes. Disgusting. If they're this desperate right now, how far are these psychos willing to go to win the election?

The guy chose his daughter's college education over health insurance, plus his wife was covered until she quit her job, and then he cuts an ad blaming Romney for her death.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444900304577577600987192174.html

But he (Soptic) also said of Mr. Romney: "I'm not blaming him for her death. I wouldn't do that."
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Mr. Soptic said that his wife was receiving health insurance through her employer at the time he lost his job at GST Steel, though she later suffered an injury, left her job and lost her insurance coverage. He could not say precisely when this occurred.

Mr. Soptic said that after he lost his job, he found work as a school custodian about six months later and had the option to put her on his insurance plan. But he opted not to, he said, because he could not afford the more than $350 monthly premium on the $25,000 salary he was making, on top of paying his mortgage and a daughter's college tuition. Ilyona Soptic was diagnosed with cancer in 2006 and died that year.

 

[PapaG]

Obama camp denies knowledge of cancer tale it told in May

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-camp-denies-knowledge-cancer-tale-told-may-195237581.html

Oops? OOPS???? Fucking ghouls.

Oops? President Barack Obama's re-election campaign washed its hands Wednesday of an independent group's vicious (and misleading) ad effectively blaming Mitt Romney for the death of a laid-off steelworker's wife from cancer. Campaign officials flatly denied any knowledge of the facts in the case—but it turns out the widower told the same story on an Obama campaign conference call in mid-May. (The Obama campaign responded late in the day: See update below).

"We have nothing, no involvement, with any ads that are done by Priorities USA. We don't have any knowledge of the story of the family," Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters aboard Air Force One on Wednesday.

The ad features Joe Soptic, who lost his job and his health benefits after Romney's Bain Capital closed the GST Steel plant in Kansas City, Mo., in 2001. Soptic later told CNN that his wife had health insurance through her own employer from that point to 2002 or 2003, when she left that job because of an injury—a detail that undermines the ad's heartbreaking narrative.

"I don't know the facts about when Mr. Soptic's wife got sick, or the facts about his health insurance," deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter told CNN on Wednesday.

But there's a problem. As Politico first reported, Soptic told essentially the same story in a May 14, 2012, conference call hosted by the Obama campaign. Here's what he said then, according to a partial recording of the call passed along by a Republican official:

Flat. Out. LIARS. Enjoy this, you sick Obama supporters.

 

[MickZagger]

This is a sick, sick country. We all support Obama afterall.

 

[PapaG]

Joe Soptic admits Bain offered him a buyout that he refused, and could have kept HC coverage.

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[barfo]

Joe Soptic admits Bain offered him a buyout that he refused, and could have kept HC coverage.

I didn't hear him say that he refused the buyout. Nor do I see any evidence offered he could have kept his healthcare coverage as a result of the buyout.

barfo

 

[PapaG]

Hey, the mod who never posts about the Blazers apparently got upset enough to post in this thread.

What did he say?

 

[barfo]

Hey, the mod who never posts about the Blazers apparently got upset enough to post in this thread.

What did he say?

He said you are full of shit. He phrased it nicer than that, though.

barfo

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Relax.

 

[PapaG]

When your friends at CNN are calling you out ... Bill Burton is the former assistant press secretary for the Obama White House.

Everybody should watch this, but I know the hacks here won't listen.

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Disgusting ... watch poor Bill Burton licking his lips nervously. Then, CNN points out how Joe's wife still had health insurance.

Fucking pigs. Obama is desperate. You can see it in Burton, and you can see it in barfo the TROLL.

 

[PapaG]

He said you are full of shit. He phrased it nicer than that, though.

barfo

Really. Great board here. NateBishop03 is in hiding, and barfo is the troll that I can't ignore.

Fantastic.

 

[jlprk]

The point is that all these options for preventing or causing a cancer death should not exist.

In many many countries, health coverage is an automatic right, not a privilege. You don't have excruciating decisions like this family did.

The U.S. claims to be the richest country on Earth, but is very poor in some ways. That's how it funds the giant military.

 

[RayDavies]

Yawn.


More fake outrage from a right wing, tea bagging moron.


SlyPokerDog, you are just fucking ridiculous.

 

[Eastoff]

Irony!

The healthcare plan Romney helped put in place, the model for Obamacare that Romney now "hates" and wants to repeal so badly, would have saved this woman's life.

 

[PapaG]

Yawn.


More fake outrage from a right wing, tea bagging moron.


SlyPokerDog, you are just fucking ridiculous.

SlyPokerDog, I know who you are! You seem to be fucking ridiculous and won't even address the obvious lies posted in this thread.

So, you're a fucking ridiculous political lemming. Congrats.

 

[mobes23]

So, you're a fucking ridiculous political lemming.

Now coming from you, THAT is funny.

 

[PapaG]

"We know nothing about this poor schmuck's story, even though he told it to us on a campaign conference call."

Fucking liars, all of them.

 

[PapaG]

Odd that Bill Burton was working for the Obama campaign in May...

 

[PapaG]

Stephanie Cutter vehemently denies any official campaign involvement in the ad and that she "knows nothing" about the matter. Then ... we find that she is involved, on tape, in a conference call with Soptic back in May.

Is the idea to just make the public not believe anything that any politician says? The lies here are just so blatant, there must be a larger strategy in place outside of this silly and false ad.

 

[PapaG]

** Mitt Romney left Bain in 1999 to work on Olympics.
** GST Steel in Kansas City was shut down in 2001.
** Top Obama bundler Jonathan Lavine was in charge of Bain Capital at the time.
** Soptic was offered a buy-out.
** Soptic took another job but declined to purchase their insurance plan.
** Soptic’s wife had her own health insurance plan through 2003.
** In 2006, Soptic’s wife was diagnosed — diagnosed! — with very late-stage cancer.
** She died 22 days after diagnosis.
** The pro-Obama PAC Priorities USA cuts an ad blaming Romney for her death.

 

[Sedatedfork]

All I can tell in this thread is that someone is really mad.

 

[PapaG]

All I can tell in this thread is that someone is really mad.

Actually, it's kind of fun pointing out the blatant dishonesty, and the depths that Obama will go to, to try and win an election. The ease with which these people are willing to lie, knowing they'll be found to by lying, is fascinating to me.

 

[barfo]

Actually, it's kind of fun pointing out the blatant dishonesty, and the depths that Obama will go to, to try and win an election. The ease with which these people are willing to lie, knowing they'll be found to by lying, is fascinating to me.

Yet your outrage seems non-existent when Romney lies, for example about the welfare/work waivers. Maybe you just assume that's what Republicans will do?

barfo

 

[VanillaGorilla]

My only thought is, why does anyone fucking care what these sleezebags say to win the election? Either they get the votes or they don't, it's on the people to decide. I highly doubt there are very many high level career politicians with greal moral values regarding harmless lies.

 

[PapaG]

Obama's campaign finally admits the obvious.

Why lie in the first place, when it was so easy to prove that they were all lying?

http://www.politico.com/politico44/...owledges-knowing-mans-story-131577.html?hp=l2

 

[PapaG]

Same guy shows up in an Obama ad (wearing the same shirt, coincidentally) from May 2012. Plus, Stephanie Cutter, who claimed to not know his story, actually introduced him on a taped conference call to the media in May.

http://www.barackobama.com/romney/economics/gst/gst-intro

LIARS

The truth was documented, so we decided to stop lying.

What an exemplary demonstration of character!

Time for the FEC to get involved.

 

[PapaG]

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