AFC & NFC Championships: Patriots @ Broncos, 49's @ Seahwawks

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tlongII said:
Dude I'll bet you straight up. I don't need any points.
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deal. Signature bet with you, and Avatar bet with Brian!

Rules are, nothing that would be offensive to get someone in trouble, and not some giant ass signature that takes up the whole screen and forever to load?
 
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Denver's offense vs Seattle's defense is going to be the focus for the next two weeks.

What's interesting is that the real match up will be Seattle's O vs Denver's D, and the fact Denver's D is the worst defense Seattle will have played since week 11 (ranked by DVOA). Denver's D is not an elite unit.

Seattle won't have much trouble moving the ball this game imo.
 
RoyToy said:
Denver's offense vs Seattle's defense is going to be the focus for the next two weeks.

What's interesting is that the real match up will be Seattle's O vs Denver's D, and the fact Denver's D is the worst defense Seattle will have played since week 11 (ranked by DVOA). Denver's D is not an elite unit.

Seattle won't have much trouble moving the ball this game imo.
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You do realize that Seattle's run D is ranked 7th TIED with the "awful" Denver run D right?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/position/defense/seasontype/2

Denver's Run Defense is tied with, and or ranked with Seattle's in every category except TD's. I guess us Denver fans will just have to hope we dont play the whole game on the goal line?

Unless I'm assuming you meant with Seattle's O vs Denver's D was referring to Seattle's vaunted passing attack vs the actual soft part of the Denver D? :dunno:
 
Looking at Schedules, it also looks like Seattle played one team in the top 10 in rushing (San Fran twice), and 2 teams in top 11 (counting Carolina at 11 since Seattle takes one spot of the top 10)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/rushingYardsPerGame/seasontype/2
http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/sea/seattle-seahawks

Compared to Denver playing 5 games vs top 10 Rushing Defense. (KC twice, New England, Washington, and top Rushing team Philly)

Interesting. I'd be curious to see how both teams faired against the tougher competition (I havent looked yet)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/den/denver-broncos
 
I'm talking about Denver's D as a whole and not just one aspect of it.

Ranked by DVOA they were 15th this year. Good/decent, just not elite.
 
RoyToy said:
It was his best performance out of the 4 tough defenses he's faced the past 4 games is what I was saying.

GW TD throw was a dime

And the throw to Baldwin was also great because of the time he bought to make the throw, plus the fact he still had to bomb it with a guy about to hit him. Guy is a warrior.
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He's taken some hits, but no doubt, he's been in a slump the last 7. Or it's a regression to the mean. He's incredibly intelligent and athletic, so he has that going for him, and he'll probably figure it out.
 
And it's easy to laugh at it, but Harvin will be back for the SB. That's a huge plus for Seattle's offense.
 
Holy Moses, looks like Seattle gave up more than double the Sacks all year than Denver's O-line... all that with Denver's Statue QB, vs a Mobile one, and Denver missing its best O-Lineman all year.

Lucky for Seattle, Von Miller is out :)
 
RoyToy said:
I'm talking about Denver's D as a whole and not just one aspect of it.

Ranked by DVOA they were 15th this year. Good/decent, just not elite.
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Correct, I'm not saying they are elite... but lets not act like Seattle's offense is elite either. Should be an interesting game.
IMO both teams match up with eachother pretty decent on both sides of the ball
 
Wheels said:
Correct, I'm not saying they are elite... but lets not act like Seattle's offense is elite either. Should be an interesting game.
IMO both teams match up with eachother pretty decent on both sides of the ball
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Seattle's offense is ranked 7th by DVOA.

I think Wilson will be in a position to have a really good game in the SB.
 
as always Turnovers will make the biggest deal, Seattle's big advantage is the TO's they create, they are a whopping plus 20 to Denver's Even 0. Hope Montee Ball holds onto the rock
 
Wheels said:
Holy Moses, looks like Seattle gave up more than double the Sacks all year than Denver's O-line... all that with Denver's Statue QB, vs a Mobile one, and Denver missing its best O-Lineman all year.

Lucky for Seattle, Von Miller is out :)
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True that.

Okung was out for (iirc) 9 games, and Unger for 4? Losing 2 Pro Bowlers off your O-Line can hurt. Fortunately, they're back.
 
good talk you guys, off to spend some time with the Mrs. Look forward to continuing the banter later, and during the work week when I will be more inclined to post :p
 
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BrianFromWA said:
True that.

Okung was out for (iirc) 9 games, and Unger for 4? Losing 2 Pro Bowlers off your O-Line can hurt. Fortunately, they're back.
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def can. Speaks wonders for Denver's O-line depth that they had so few, with such a slow QB, and losing their Best man at Tackle.
 
last post.. if you guys win, I'll be happy for Unger, Thurmond, and Wilson... but no one else. and No ring for that factory reject dildo, Richard Sherman ;)
 
PapaG said:
Has anybody seen the video of Walter Thurman returning the fumble for a TD? The refs called forward progress, and Fox never replayed it, but it sure looked like it should have been a Seattle TD.
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That was a close play, and probably could have gone either way. Like you said, there wasn't a replay, so it's hard to know. The refs missed a lot of plays, though. A lot. The officiating has been very inconsistent all postseason, game-to-game, which has really put it in the spotlight.

Vernon Davis' catch for 6-8 yards that he lost when he hit the ground was clearly a catch. The Personal Foul called early on Whitner was shoulder-to-shoulder. At the end of Lockette's tough hit on James he gets a handful of facemask. The punt that should have been returned to the Niners. There are others I could list. I'm sure Seahawks fans have things they'd point out. The early "hold" on Sherman...... some games they that go, others they don't. So many penalties are missed on a regular basis. It's what you do and how you respond, no matter the officiating.

Niners still had a chance and blew it on a stupid play, and the game's over, so there's no point in dwelling on the officiating. I'd simply like to see things called more evenly and consistent, team-by-team, game-by-game. But that's been my complaint in ALL sports for years now, especially the NBA and NFL. MLB isn't quite as bad, though every once in a while an ump has some odd strike zones (I don't think I've seen anything terrible since Livan Hernandez was consistently given 6 inches off the plate in the World Series in the 90's).
 
RoyToy said:
Denver's offense vs Seattle's defense is going to be the focus for the next two weeks.

What's interesting is that the real match up will be Seattle's O vs Denver's D, and the fact Denver's D is the worst defense Seattle will have played since week 11 (ranked by DVOA). Denver's D is not an elite unit.

Seattle won't have much trouble moving the ball this game imo.
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Agreed. I said that several posts ago.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
You may want to rethink this. The Seahawks have not lost by more than seven since November 6th, 2011.
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He might want to re-think picking the Broncos. The real SB was yesterday.

Unless a couple of key Seattle players are injured during practice, I just don't see the AFC taking it. Felt that way going into the playoffs, feel the same way today.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
He might want to re-think picking the Broncos. The real SB was yesterday.

Unless a couple of key Seattle players are injured during practice, I just don't see the AFC taking it. Felt that way going into the playoffs, feel the same way today.
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I'm a homer but I'm gonna back away from this because last season I was convinced the 49ers were going to destroy the Ravens.

Anything can happen... I do believe the Seahawks are better because running the ball and hard nosed defense plays well in any weather (I'm praying for low 30s and windy on February 2nd in Jersey.) but giving Peyton 2 weeks is scary even if he isn't very good in cold weather or the playoffs for that matter. However getting Harvin back and the giving the defense 2 weeks to study Peyton is big as well.
 
Yup, Bowman with an ACL and MCL. With the way his knee bent, that's pretty much what I figured.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/201...vorro-bowman-san-francisco-49ers-torn-acl-mcl

An MRI revealed that San Francisco 49ers linebacker NaVorro Bowman suffered a torn ACL and MCL in his left knee, a source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Bowman will have surgery to repair the ACL, but the MCL is expected to heal on its own, the source said, adding that Bowman is expected to be ready for the start of the 2014 season.
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That sucks and is classless and reprehensible and I hope the dude got thrown out of the game by an usher.

That said, 1 dude dropping 6 skittles (or popcorn?) on an injured player will not make me revoke my Hawks' fandom. Rosenthal made it sound worse than PHI tossing snowballs at Santa.
 
BrianFromWA said:
That sucks and is classless and reprehensible and I hope the dude got thrown out of the game by an usher.

That said, 1 dude dropping 6 skittles (or popcorn?) on an injured player will not make me revoke my Hawks' fandom. Rosenthal made it sound worse than PHI tossing snowballs at Santa.
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Looks like popcorn, but is that the extent of the food being thrown or is that just a short clip of it?
 
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