RashadzMcCantz: cb32Chapsketball32: whoa, you IMd me like 0.2 seconds after I signed on lolChapsketball32: whats up?RashadzMcCantz: lol ive been meanin to talk to uChapsketball32: whats up?RashadzMcCantz: what u think of the celtics with the top 5?RashadzMcCantz: yi?RashadzMcCantz: is that who your lookin atChapsketball32: tradeRashadzMcCantz: or u wanna move it for onealRashadzMcCantz: or randolphChapsketball32: no RandolphChapsketball32: I don't want a guy like that in Boston. he's an idiot off the court, misses practices, plays no defense, and he's a black hole offensively (he'd take A LOT away from Al and stop ball movement)Chapsketball32: I really want Jermaine O'NealRashadzMcCantz: yeahRashadzMcCantz: but hes injury proneChapsketball32: he's good for 65+ a yearChapsketball32: not that badRashadzMcCantz: lolRashadzMcCantz: u better pray he doesn't miss games during the postseasonRashadzMcCantz: what about that rondo kidRashadzMcCantz: lolRashadzMcCantz: pretty good playerChapsketball32: Jermaine or Pau is the most realistic, if something is gonna happenChapsketball32: yeah, I'm in love with Rondo lolRashadzMcCantz: what are we lookin at herwRashadzMcCantz: green + 5th pick for jermaine?RashadzMcCantz: green + ratliffRashadzMcCantz: + 5th pickChapsketball32: I dunno, giving up both Green and #5 would be tough, especailly for a guy that is somewhat injury prone and has a big contract. Green and #5 = 2 potential All-Star caliber playersRashadzMcCantz: yeahRashadzMcCantz: I agreeRashadzMcCantz: but what do u expectChapsketball32: Larry Bird likes Delonte West a lot, here's what I'd propose for JermaineRashadzMcCantz: the pacers arent desperate to move joChapsketball32: Theo Ratliff, #5 pick, Delonte West, Sebastian Telfair, and maybe a future protected pickRashadzMcCantz: they wouldnt do thatRashadzMcCantz: thats a perfect trade for the celticsRashadzMcCantz: perfectRashadzMcCantz: Rondo/Pierce/Green/O'neal/Big AlChapsketball32: when you trade a star, you always get 50-60 cents on the dollar... Philly got Miller, Joe Smith, and 2 late picks for IversonRashadzMcCantz: yeah but that was iverson requesting a tradeRashadzMcCantz: thats differentRashadzMcCantz: when a player requests to be tradedRashadzMcCantz: because u have to move him because hes ruinin the chemistryRashadzMcCantz: I bet jo wants outChapsketball32: I understand that, but Indiana still isn't gonna get much more than that if they trade himRashadzMcCantz: but hes not a bi*ch like ai and hes not goin to come out and say itRashadzMcCantz: they wontRashadzMcCantz: but I think they want some young talentRashadzMcCantz: they have tinsleyRashadzMcCantz: they dont need 2 more backup pg'sRashadzMcCantz: they want a starter in returnRashadzMcCantz: like agreenChapsketball32: Delonte West is a combo guard, better suited for the 2.. and Green is not a starter right now. he still has a long way to goRashadzMcCantz: I agreeRashadzMcCantz: delonte doesn't have the body to play sgRashadzMcCantz: but he has the skills of a sgRashadzMcCantz: not a great playmakerRashadzMcCantz: but can score with strengthRashadzMcCantz: and is a very very good defenderRashadzMcCantz: but too smallRashadzMcCantz: but I think theyll want greenRashadzMcCantz: if im indyChapsketball32: but for a rebuilding team, that package I proposed really was solid. a $12M expiring deal, a solid role player, a potential star with the #5 pick, and a future pickRashadzMcCantz: I dot trade jo without greenRashadzMcCantz: to be honestRashadzMcCantz: the #5 pick is horribleRashadzMcCantz: u wont get valueRashadzMcCantz: yi sucksChapsketball32: #5 pick is not horrible, are you aware of what this draft has to offer?RashadzMcCantz: alotRashadzMcCantz: but I thinkChapsketball32: it wouldnt be Yi, it would be Horford, Wright, or BrewerRashadzMcCantz: oden durant wright horford will go thereRashadzMcCantz: they dont need wright or brewerChapsketball32: Conley at 3 is likelyRashadzMcCantz: wright is like a grangerRashadzMcCantz: with a better overall gameChapsketball32: Green is a SF tooRashadzMcCantz: yeah but green is a scorerRashadzMcCantz: who can shootRashadzMcCantz: different type of playerRashadzMcCantz: indy needs a pure scorerRashadzMcCantz: thats their problemRashadzMcCantz: dunleavy granger Chapsketball32: if they trade Jermaine, having a young big like Wright/Horford would be greatRashadzMcCantz: it wouldRashadzMcCantz: but I dont think ull get horfordRashadzMcCantz: conley is my favoriteRashadzMcCantz: but I think hell go 11th to atlantaRashadzMcCantz: and with the 3rd pick theyll get wrightChapsketball32: Conley is not going to slip all the way down to 11RashadzMcCantz: I think soRashadzMcCantz: I love cjChapsketball32: he'll go 3 or no later than 6 to MilwaukeeRashadzMcCantz: hes my favoriteRashadzMcCantz: milwuakee doesn't need himChapsketball32: yes they doRashadzMcCantz: if they resign moChapsketball32: Mo Williams is a free agent, unrestrictedChapsketball32: they need a distributor, Williams is a scorerRashadzMcCantz: yeahRashadzMcCantz: but I think thell resign moChapsketball32: its 50/50RashadzMcCantz: yeahRashadzMcCantz: if they resign him they wont need conleyRashadzMcCantz: I like them getting greenChapsketball32: but if they can get a distributor like Conley, then they won't need MoRashadzMcCantz: hell fit perfectly next to reddRashadzMcCantz: and simmons RashadzMcCantz: but simmons is still shakyRashadzMcCantz: I saw him by my houseRashadzMcCantz: hes still hurt he saidChapsketball32: Jeff Green would fitRashadzMcCantz: yeah ilike green in milwuakeeChapsketball32: you talk to Bobby Simmons... doubt itRashadzMcCantz: I swear to godRashadzMcCantz: look where hes fromRashadzMcCantz: he lives right by meRashadzMcCantz: himRashadzMcCantz: curryRashadzMcCantz: and bo jackson all live by meRashadzMcCantz: burr ridge ilRashadzMcCantz: I see simmons all the time at my healtht clubRashadzMcCantz: hes doin rehavRashadzMcCantz: curry will come later this summerRashadzMcCantz: like he came last summerRashadzMcCantz: I wouldnt lie about thisRashadzMcCantz: but minny could get conley but they have mccants, foye, james who all play the backcourtRashadzMcCantz: they need a bigger guy like julian wrightRashadzMcCantz: who can play all aroundRashadzMcCantz: charlotte has knight and felton they dont need himRashadzMcCantz: chicago wont need himChapsketball32: I don't see Conley falling to 11 though, no way. no wayRashadzMcCantz: sacramento wont need himRashadzMcCantz: hes my favoriteRashadzMcCantz: I should be biased towards himChapsketball32: he'll likely go 3, if not Milwaukee would take himRashadzMcCantz: unless portlands trades upRashadzMcCantz: milwuakee will take greenRashadzMcCantz: after milwuakee and atlanta at 3 where conley would be too high and u cant pass on a future superstar in wright as much as I love conleyRashadzMcCantz: u cant pass up on wrightChapsketball32: I wouldnt either, but it's VERY understandable why they would, especially considering that they passed on Paul/Deron in 05Chapsketball32: they need a PG BADLYRashadzMcCantz: they doRashadzMcCantz: but I think they should pray they get him at 11RashadzMcCantz: and if notRashadzMcCantz: settle for lawRashadzMcCantz: I thinkRashadzMcCantz: oden durant wright is a lockChapsketball32: Wright is nowhere near a lock to go 3RashadzMcCantz: I think oChapsketball32: and Conley will not slip to 11. I'll make some kind of bet with you, if you want lolRashadzMcCantz: ill just save this convoRashadzMcCantz: but I love conleyRashadzMcCantz: so I want him to go earlierRashadzMcCantz: he remidns me alot of cp3RashadzMcCantz: atlanta should have taken paul RashadzMcCantz: before RashadzMcCantz: with the 2nd pickChapsketball32: I knowRashadzMcCantz: Paul Johnson SmithChapsketball32:
http://www.bballworld.us/forum/index.php?s...c=30602&hl=Chapsketball32: voteRashadzMcCantz: horfordRashadzMcCantz: lolRashadzMcCantz: its funny how we're talkinRashadzMcCantz: rbs' most knowledgeable member with bbw's most knowledgeable memberRashadzMcCantz: I think the hawks go with wrightRashadzMcCantz: and then pray that conley slips like brady quinn didRashadzMcCantz: because most of the teams 1-10 dont need a pg that badRashadzMcCantz: Conley and WrightRashadzMcCantz: would turn out to be an excellet draftChapsketball32: I don't know what else to say, Conley will NOT slip very farRashadzMcCantz: 11th is the farthest isee him droppingChapsketball32: 6-7 for meRashadzMcCantz: or I could seeRashadzMcCantz: this...RashadzMcCantz: the hawks drafting wrightRashadzMcCantz: then trading up to get conley at 6RashadzMcCantz: and green would possibly still be there for milwuakee at 11RashadzMcCantz: or if not green a guy like brewer if he slips which he wont because hes goin to the bobcats or a guy like wright or thornton/yougnChapsketball32: maybe, not guaranteedRashadzMcCantz: I think milwuakee should trade downChapsketball32: Brewer will not slip to 11, Conley will not slip to 11... christ, who do you see being taken there?RashadzMcCantz: I said he wontRashadzMcCantz: did u not readRashadzMcCantz: this is my mock draftRashadzMcCantz: 1 - portland - odenRashadzMcCantz: 2 - seattle - durantRashadzMcCantz: 3 - atl - wrightRashadzMcCantz: 4 - memphis - horfordRashadzMcCantz: 5 - bos - jianlianRashadzMcCantz: 6 - mil - greenRashadzMcCantz: 7 - minn - julian wrightRashadzMcCantz: 8 - charlotte - brewerRashadzMcCantz: 9 - chi - hawes/noah undecided but ill go with hawesChapsketball32: Conley will not slip that far, you cant change my opinionRashadzMcCantz: 10 - sac - hawes/noah but noah will go there because they already have miller who is a hawes clone and they need someone who can defend in the post because the kings will never be a dominant team again until they find someone of noah's defensive skill and energyRashadzMcCantz: 11 - atl - conleyChapsketball32: sorry, noRashadzMcCantz: lemme see your mock draft...Chapsketball32: I don't have a set mock, but I'll give it a shot anywayRashadzMcCantz: once again, conley is my favorite rookie so im rootin him to go higher but the teams 1-10 arent in desperate need of a pgChapsketball32: 3 - Conley4 - Wright/Horford5 - trade/Wright/Horford/Yi6 - Wright/Horford/Yi (whatever happens)Chapsketball32: I don't know. it all depends on Atlanta. it ALL depends on AtlantaChapsketball32: but I'll say this.. I don't see Conley slipping past 6-7RashadzMcCantz: I agree atlanta could change the whole draft aroundChapsketball32: it's more than likely that he'll go 3RashadzMcCantz: well I could see atlanta making a deal with milwuakee or minny to move up and grab conleyRashadzMcCantz: see I dont think hell go three because atl has backup if he goes 6-7 in lawRashadzMcCantz: they need a pg and they WILL get a pg in this draftRashadzMcCantz: and even though law isnt the playmaker they need he will still fit nicely in this lineup because he can flat out score and when u put him around some freakish athletes he can play very well in that systemChapsketball32: if I were Atlanta, I would take Wright at 3 and Law at 11... but I think Conley WILL go 3Chapsketball32: and if not, Memphis will take a look at him... Milwaukee will take a look at him... Minnesota will take a look at him.. or a trade would happenRashadzMcCantz: I agree but minny wont take himRashadzMcCantz: I can guarantee thatRashadzMcCantz: they signed jamesChapsketball32: you can't guarantee itChapsketball32: James is out of the rotation now, he's really irrelevantRashadzMcCantz: and they drafted foye last season and mccants is coming off surgery and is still a high scouted prsopectChapsketball32: they don't have a true point guard on that team at allChapsketball32: Foye is a combo guardRashadzMcCantz: they dont but they have taken guards the last two years in the 1st roundRashadzMcCantz: its time they take a SF like julian wrightRashadzMcCantz: who can play DRashadzMcCantz: passRashadzMcCantz: and compliment garnettRashadzMcCantz: I really like julian in minnyRashadzMcCantz: I think hell fit the system wellRashadzMcCantz: hassell is not a starterChapsketball32: that would be a good pick too.. so would Brewer.. but I'm saying I don't see Conley slipping farChapsketball32: McCants is not a starter right now eitherRashadzMcCantz: hes notRashadzMcCantz: hes still not 100 percentRashadzMcCantz: but mccants has all the potential in the worldChapsketball32: doesn't matter, he's still not there yetRashadzMcCantz: I really think he doesRashadzMcCantz: even with the micro surgery hes still got potentialRashadzMcCantz: but they're still high on himRashadzMcCantz: they havent given upRashadzMcCantz: foye/mccants is inn their futureRashadzMcCantz: they need brewer or wrightRashadzMcCantz: they cant have hassell in the starting lineup againRashadzMcCantz: Foye Davis Wright Garnett Blount is a productive lineupRashadzMcCantz: with James, McCants, and Hassell off the benchChapsketball32: I said they would take a look at him if he slips there, which I don't see happening once againRashadzMcCantz: We'll see on June 29thBump this convo back up on June 29th, we're gonna see who the real 'balla' is then. :dribble: