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A woman whose unborn baby was killed in a 2018 Pleasant Grove shooting has now been indicted in the death.

Marshae Jones, a 27-year-old Birmingham woman, was indicted by a Jefferson County grand jury on a manslaughter charge. She was taken into custody on Wednesday.

Though Jones didn’t fire the shots that killed her unborn baby girl, authorities say she initiated the dispute that led to the gunfire. Police initially charged 23-year-old Ebony Jemison with manslaughter, but the charge against Jemison was dismissed after the grand jury failed to indict her.

The shooting happened about noon on Dec. 4, 2018, outside Dollar General on Park Road. Officers were dispatched to the scene on a report of someone shot but arrived to find the shooting victim – later identified as Jones - had been picked up and driven to Fairfield. Police and paramedics then found the Jones at a Fairfield convenience store.

Jones was taken from Fairfield to UAB Hospital. She was five months pregnant and was shot in the stomach. The unborn baby did not survive the shooting.

“The investigation showed that the only true victim in this was the unborn baby,’’ Pleasant Grove police Lt. Danny Reid said at the time of the shooting. “It was the mother of the child who initiated and continued the fight which resulted in the death of her own unborn baby.”

Reid said the fight stemmed over the unborn baby’s father. The investigation showed, he said, that it was Jones who initiated and pressed the fight, which ultimately caused Jemison to defend herself and unfortunately caused the death of the baby.

"Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection."

The 5-month fetus was "dependent on its mother to try to keep it from harm, and she shouldn’t seek out unnecessary physical altercations,” Reid added.

Jones will be transferred to the Jefferson County Jail where she will be held on $50,000 bond.

The indictment and prosecution is being handled by the Jefferson County Bessemer Cutoff District Attorney’s Office. Lynneice Washington, the district attorney in that office, could not be reached for comment. Jefferson County is divided into two divisions and the Bessemer Cutoff covers the western portion of the county, including Pleasant Grove.

News of Jones’ grand jury indictment outraged many, including women’s rights activists.

The Yellowhammer Fund, a member of the National Network of Abortion Funds which helps women access abortion services, released a statement Wednesday night. The group gained national attention after the passage of Alabama’s new abortion law.

“The state of Alabama has proven yet again that the moment a person becomes pregnant their sole responsibility is to produce a live, healthy baby and that it considers any action a pregnant person takes that might impede in that live birth to be a criminal act,’’ Executive Director Amanda Reyes said in the statement.“

“Today, Marshae Jones is being charged with manslaughter for being pregnant and getting shot while engaging in an altercation with a person who had a gun. Tomorrow, it will be another black woman, maybe for having a drink while pregnant. And after that, another, for not obtaining adequate prenatal care,” Reyes said.

“We commit ourselves to making sure that Marshae is released from jail on bond, assisting with her legal representation, and working to ensure that she gets justice for the multiple attacks that she has endured,’’ Reyes said.

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/...-child-charges-against-shooter-dismissed.html
 
This is one of those cases where no one is a winner and like the investigation concluded, the real victim was the baby.
 
Gotta disagree. Self defense requires that the force used be proportionate to the threat. Shooting an unarmed pregnant woman strikes me as excessive force.

If the mother had gone to the hospital instead of a convenience store after the shooting I don't think she should be charged but that woman took no actions before or after to protect that baby.
 
Can't wait to see the outcome of this.

Technically it is manslaughter ......I guess.

But then again, so would a pregnant woman jogging and tripping causing a miscarriage, since the mother is responsible for the life.

Hopefully the DA does the right thing and does not prosecute
 
Can't wait to see the outcome of this.

Technically it is manslaughter ......I guess.

But then again, so would a pregnant woman jogging and tripping causing a miscarriage, since the mother is responsible for the life.

Hopefully the DA does the right thing and does not prosecute
Engaging in a normal activity like jogging is very different from initiating and perpetuating a physical confrontation.

However, I think that the loss of a child is punishment enough; criminal charges in such a situation are just cruel.
 
Engaging in a normal activity like jogging is very different from initiating and perpetuating a physical confrontation.

However, I think that the loss of a child is punishment enough; criminal charges in such a situation are just cruel.
I should have been more clear, my bad. Not to these people.
 
A woman whose unborn baby was killed in a 2018 Pleasant Grove shooting has now been indicted in the death.

Marshae Jones, a 27-year-old Birmingham woman, was indicted by a Jefferson County grand jury on a manslaughter charge. She was taken into custody on Wednesday.

Though Jones didn’t fire the shots that killed her unborn baby girl, authorities say she initiated the dispute that led to the gunfire. Police initially charged 23-year-old Ebony Jemison with manslaughter, but the charge against Jemison was dismissed after the grand jury failed to indict her.

The shooting happened about noon on Dec. 4, 2018, outside Dollar General on Park Road. Officers were dispatched to the scene on a report of someone shot but arrived to find the shooting victim – later identified as Jones - had been picked up and driven to Fairfield. Police and paramedics then found the Jones at a Fairfield convenience store.

Jones was taken from Fairfield to UAB Hospital. She was five months pregnant and was shot in the stomach. The unborn baby did not survive the shooting.

“The investigation showed that the only true victim in this was the unborn baby,’’ Pleasant Grove police Lt. Danny Reid said at the time of the shooting. “It was the mother of the child who initiated and continued the fight which resulted in the death of her own unborn baby.”

Reid said the fight stemmed over the unborn baby’s father. The investigation showed, he said, that it was Jones who initiated and pressed the fight, which ultimately caused Jemison to defend herself and unfortunately caused the death of the baby.

"Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection."

The 5-month fetus was "dependent on its mother to try to keep it from harm, and she shouldn’t seek out unnecessary physical altercations,” Reid added.

Jones will be transferred to the Jefferson County Jail where she will be held on $50,000 bond.

The indictment and prosecution is being handled by the Jefferson County Bessemer Cutoff District Attorney’s Office. Lynneice Washington, the district attorney in that office, could not be reached for comment. Jefferson County is divided into two divisions and the Bessemer Cutoff covers the western portion of the county, including Pleasant Grove.

News of Jones’ grand jury indictment outraged many, including women’s rights activists.

The Yellowhammer Fund, a member of the National Network of Abortion Funds which helps women access abortion services, released a statement Wednesday night. The group gained national attention after the passage of Alabama’s new abortion law.

“The state of Alabama has proven yet again that the moment a person becomes pregnant their sole responsibility is to produce a live, healthy baby and that it considers any action a pregnant person takes that might impede in that live birth to be a criminal act,’’ Executive Director Amanda Reyes said in the statement.“

“Today, Marshae Jones is being charged with manslaughter for being pregnant and getting shot while engaging in an altercation with a person who had a gun. Tomorrow, it will be another black woman, maybe for having a drink while pregnant. And after that, another, for not obtaining adequate prenatal care,” Reyes said.

“We commit ourselves to making sure that Marshae is released from jail on bond, assisting with her legal representation, and working to ensure that she gets justice for the multiple attacks that she has endured,’’ Reyes said.

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/...-child-charges-against-shooter-dismissed.html
I'll be in Birmingham early this Fall.
 
Can't wait to see the outcome of this.

Technically it is manslaughter ......I guess.

But then again, so would a pregnant woman jogging and tripping causing a miscarriage, since the mother is responsible for the life.

Hopefully the DA does the right thing and does not prosecute

If its manslaughter, then Abortion is Murder.
 
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Is the unborn child a human or a mass of cells?
The child is a child while the mass of cells is a mass of cells even if developing. How far along is this mass of cells?
 
The child is a child while the mass of cells is a mass of cells even if developing. How far along is this mass of cells?
If it has a heart beat the baby is Human!
 
Engaging in a normal activity like jogging is very different from initiating and perpetuating a physical confrontation.

However, I think that the loss of a child is punishment enough; criminal charges in such a situation are just cruel.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say a pregnant woman who goes to the Kwik E Mart instead of the hospital after getting shot in the stomach probably doesn’t give a shit about her baby.
 
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You forgot mothers maiden name
 
Interesting case. I think the charge against the mother is correct.

I agree. This is an interesting case. The pregnant woman Jones started a fight that escalated into her getting shot. It is both a question of self defense. Did the fight and Jones actions warrant her being shot? Was Jemison truly afraid for her life because she was getting her ass beat by a pregnant lady? ( prettt embarrassing by the way). Also, by shooting Jemison put two lifes in danger. Does self defense vindicate her from kiling the baby, even if it vindicates her from shooting Jones?

Also, is Jones who was pregnant responsible for the babies death? Not only did she instigate and esculate the fight, which was regarding the babies daddy, (some cheating going on? Is the dad then responsible too?) But she failed to go to a hospital after being shot in the belly. She showed reckless disregard for her unborn child's life. Is the death of the child punishment enough? Would letting her go deny justice to that child as a victim, if not the true victim? I lean towards finding with the court.
 

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