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illmatic99 said:
he didn't go home. he went to another team 300 miles away. he specifically said he didn't want to go to Dallas because it was "too close to home." I'm sorry, but that guy was fake as hell.
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He played his college ball in Austin Texas with the Longhorns.., not Dallas.....
 
riverman said:
He played his college ball in Austin Texas with the Longhorns.., not Dallas.....
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smh, he spent 2 yrs at Austin. He was born, and spent all his life prior in Dallas. He considered Dallas his hometown. This isn't news.

Do you also believe Dame is from Utah, and not Oakland?
 
illmatic99 said:
Do you truly think he would make our team better? i really don't see what he would bring to our team that we don't already have in Melo/Kanter. If this was two months ago, sure-- but Nurk's return is around the corner. It's more about opportunity cost for me. I'd rather fill a position of need.
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While his days of being average defensively are behind him, I still think he's better as a defender than Kanter, and he brings an outside shot. I think on nights where Portland needs spacing and better defense than Kanter provides, Aldridge can provide that. Solid outside shooting is something even Nurkic doesn't provide and it can be a big deal.
 
If we can stay below the luxury tax and it is on a minimum contract, I do not see the harm. My guess is that there is no way LA gets signed if Lillard is not 100% on board with it.

Most said Melo would be a bad fit and would never fit with this team. He has fit nicely at a minimum contract and changed the narrative with his late career resurgence. Would love to see LA do the same.
 
Minstrel said:
While his days of being average defensively are behind him, I still think he's better as a defender than Kanter, and he brings an outside shot. I think on nights where Portland needs spacing and better defense than Kanter provides, Aldridge can provide that. Solid outside shooting is something even Nurkic doesn't provide and it can be a big deal.
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He would occupy the same spots on offense that Melo does. As I said, the combo of Melo/Kanter bring whatever Aldridge can. I'd rather we address more defensive wing depth or maybe even getting a PG.
 
illmatic99 said:
He would occupy the same spots on offense that Melo does.
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Melo can't realistically play center, unless Portland is playing a team experimenting with super small ball. A big who can shoot and thus drag the opposing center out of the paint opens up a lot. Especially if it's a big who, like Aldridge, also has a refined post game and can punish teams that try to cover him with a wing so their big can remain in the paint.

Considering I'm only interested in him as a vet minimum player, I'm obviously not saying he'll completely transform the team. But no veteran's minimum player will. I think Aldridge's package of tools is more impactful than you'll find in other veteran's minimum players.
 
Minstrel said:
Melo can't realistically play center, unless Portland is playing a team experimenting with super small ball. A big who can shoot and thus drag the opposing center out of the paint opens up a lot. Especially if it's a big who, like Aldridge, also has a refined post game and can punish teams that try to cover him with a wing so their big can remain in the paint.

Considering I'm only interested in him as a vet minimum player, I'm obviously not saying he'll completely transform the team. But no veteran's minimum player will. I think Aldridge's package of tools is more impactful than you'll find in other veteran's minimum players.
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If Otto Porter or George Hill became available in the buyout market, would you take Aldridge over them?
 
wizenheimer said:
let me guess:


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please dont post anymore pictures of me without my consent!

i have a lawyer...
 
illmatic99 said:
Yes, he had a kid in San Antonio as well, but the narrative about the Mavs (as noted in the article I linked) was that there were too many voices and distractions in Dallas. He "wanted to be close to home — just not too close." So I don't buy it, and don't really care for it. I lost all respect for him after he abandoned his team and flew back to Portland after Game 2 in the playoffs on his own plane. Dude has some issues, and quite a lot of them were ego driven.
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e_blazer said:
I’m not doubting you on that. That’s likely the reason Paul Allen and Olshey flew down to LA and gave Aldridge the sales pitch laying out an offer of an extension or a new contract at a later date. It was after that meeting that Aldridge issued the statements about wanting to remain with the Blazers and being willing to re-sign in the Summer of 2015. He changed his mind again.
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Was never going to re-sign
 
Minstrel said:
What do you mean by "no source, first hand?" You were actually in the room when Aldridge informed Blazers' management? That's what first hand means. Were you working for the team at the time?
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I heard a conversation
 
illmatic99 said:
what a completely arbitrary metric to deem if Melo gets double teamed.
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except of course, that's out of context. I was responding to this assertion:

Melo gets double teamed often...it helps free up Dame..
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if Melo gets doubled AND that, in turn " frees up Dame", we should see some evidence that Dame's numbers are better when playing with Melo on the floor. But the opposite is true

If you are going to accuse me of some arbitrary reasoning, at least base it upon accurate context. And by the way, that context was present in my post
 
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wizenheimer said:
except of course, that's out of context. I was responding to this assertion:



if Melo gets doubled AND that, in turn " frees up Dame", we should see some evidence that Dame's numbers are better when playing with Melo on the floor. But the opposite is true

If you are going to accuse me of some arbitrary reasoning, at least base it upon accurate context. And by the way, that context was present in my post
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and on the same note IF guys shot better across the board Dame should have 30 assists a game...right? no.....doesn't work that way...you can pass the ball but not make them shoot it well.Intangibles....
As to accusing you.....I cited Holton and you felt the need to contest that view ...for what I think is just your go to method of measuring sports assets. I think you leave out the most imp0rtant stat almost every time you come out with your moneyball charts...the intangibles....the scrap....the random way balls bounce off the rim...the fouls that don't get called....on and on...you're welcome to it but please....charts and numbers aren't accurate measures of the game...they have a place but they aren't the whole story ever...it's ok...just understand who you're replying to and we'll agree to disagree because we don't approach topics from the same angle. That's fine...I too look at some stats during games...how many fouls does Roco have, etc...stats in many cases can be really empty....Hassan Whiteside comes to mind. I would absolutely love to have you do my taxes though....that's a numbers game
 
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riverman said:
and on the same note IF guys shot better across the board Dame should have 30 assists a game...right? no.....doesn't work that way...you can pass the ball but not make them shoot it well.Intangibles....
As to accusing you.....I cited Holton and you felt the need to contest that view ...for what I think is just your go to method of measuring sports assets. I think you leave out the most imp0rtant stat almost every time you come out with your moneyball charts...the intangibles....the scrap....the random way balls bounce off the rim...the fouls that don't get called....on and on...you're welcome to it but please....charts and numbers aren't accurate measures of the game...they have a place but they aren't the whole story ever...it's ok...just understand who you're replying to and we'll agree to disagree because we don't approach topics from the same angle. That's fine...I too look at some stats during games...how many fouls does Roco have, etc...stats in many cases can be really empty....Hassan Whiteside comes to mind. I would absolutely love to have you do my taxes though....that's a numbers game
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I wasn't responding to you.
 
illmatic99 said:
smh, he spent 2 yrs at Austin. He was born, and spent all his life prior in Dallas. He considered Dallas his hometown. This isn't news.

Do you also believe Dame is from Utah, and not Oakland?
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Dame cites Oakland, Ogden and Oregon as his letter "O" ...yes I believe people identify with their college roots...especially if it's in the same state....I don't live in Portland but I live in Oregon and used to live in Portland....moving to your home state is "going home" in my book. If you went to college in Austin would you move back there or Dallas?.....I know my answer...kids who grew up in New York City and got rich often retire to upstate New York ...the thing is...going to the Spurs he could drive anywhere in Texas and enjoy the place....harder from say...Milwaukee
 
Age.

Severe Decline.

Contract.

LA is the epitome of a negative asset.

The talk about “several possibilities” is for sure coming out of San Antonio.
 
Fez Forthright said:
Age.

Severe Decline.

Contract.

LA is the epitome of a negative asset.

The talk about “several possibilities” is for sure coming out of San Antonio.
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Aldridge’s PER and VORP this season would rank him 5th on the Blazers. Idk why anyone would be against signing him on the buyout market. He makes the team better.
 
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