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The main target has to be whiteside. We have seen both dame and cj make that clear over Twitter. I think it's the best target. It's up to whiteside. Does he wanna play with this great team or go be around celebrities in LA while Ingram is pushed harder than him? I was listening to Chris mannix new podcast today with woj and he was saying how interesting miamis situation is. D wade had been taking pay cuts for quite some time. Plus you have bosh's situation and the uncertainty of that. He either stays in Miami or chooses Portland or LA. That's how I see it. Gonna be very interesting
 
A Miami beat writer was on Sirius XM's NBA channel this morning and thought his choices were down to Dallas and Miami with the Lakers a distant 3rd. No mention of Portland, but I didn't get the vibe he was really that plugged into Whiteside's inner circle.
 
craigehlo said:
A Miami beat writer was on Sirius XM's NBA channel this morning and thought his choices were down to Dallas and Miami with the Lakers a distant 3rd. No mention of Portland, but I didn't get the vibe he was really that plugged into Whiteside's inner circle.
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I don't understand the Dallas thing. Old Dirk, older Deron. They can still play to an extent but what is Cuban gonna sell him on? whole thing is ridiculous.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I'm sure this was already posted....

http://heatnation.com/media/eight-ridiculous-hassan-whiteside-stories-you-wont-believe/

But does that sound like someone we want to sign? And to think, some of you are so against Howard but love this guy.....
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Sorry, man. After reading the article, I want him even more. I read his life story (someone's link in this thread, I think). Basically, he's very immature. However, he should be judged like the blazers, IMHO. In the blazers case, I think we're really the team that played post Vonleh-in-the-starting-lineup. Similarly, Whiteside should be judged that way. He was completely clueless when he joined the Kings - call it Maturity Level 2. In the last half of the season, I think it's vastly improved to ML 5, and rising. Frankly, ML6 is good enough, and I'm sure he'll get there after a half of a season with the Blazers.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Sorry, man. After reading the article, I want him even more. I read his life story (someone's link in this thread, I think). Basically, he's very immature. However, he should be judged like the blazers, IMHO. In the blazers case, I think we're really the team that played post Vonleh-in-the-starting-lineup. Similarly, Whiteside should be judged that way. He was completely clueless when he joined the Kings - call it Maturity Level 2. In the last half of the season, I think it's vastly improved to ML 5, and rising. Frankly, ML6 is good enough, and I'm sure he'll get there after a half of a season with the Blazers.
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I kind of skimmed through this and missed what ML stood for. I thought it was plus or minus Meyers Leonard's level. Like ML+5 is good enough, but ML+6 will be where he is at this next year.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I'm sure this was already posted....

http://heatnation.com/media/eight-ridiculous-hassan-whiteside-stories-you-wont-believe/

But does that sound like someone we want to sign? And to think, some of you are so against Howard but love this guy.....
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That was a pretty mean-spirited article. I notice it was all about when he played with Sacramento, a long time ago. I'm thinking he might still be a little difficult to deal with at times, but I hope we have the staff that can handle it. Portland is not in the situation where they can get exactly the player they want; this is a gamble but I think it's worth taking.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
That was a pretty mean-spirited article. I notice it was all about when he played with Sacramento, a long time ago. I'm thinking he might still be a little difficult to deal with at times, but I hope we have the staff that can handle it. Portland is not in the situation where they can get exactly the player they want; this is a gamble but I think it's worth taking.
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The article was updated March, 2015. So, yeah, it's very much out of date.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I'm sure this was already posted....

http://heatnation.com/media/eight-ridiculous-hassan-whiteside-stories-you-wont-believe/

But does that sound like someone we want to sign? And to think, some of you are so against Howard but love this guy.....
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Cmon Fizz, there's only two things in there that you could take exception with, and it was his laziness. But it's also stated that he gained 40 lbs of muscle, showing that he's willing to work hard.

The lazy stories were from when he was unsuccessful in SAC. It probably took a change in attitude to get him to the level that he's at now.
 
Im not saying i dont want him. Its just ridiculous people hate howard but would fondle whitesides balls to get him here.

Both guys have had immature pasts. But on the court both provide needs for us
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Im not saying i dont want him. Its just ridiculous people hate howard but would fondle whitesides balls to get him here.

Both guys have had immature pasts. But on the court both provide needs for us
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Yeah but to me Whiteside and Howard are completely different. Whiteside has had issues here and there on the court but plays his ass off. Dudes getting triple doubles with blocks. Meanwhile, Howard plays like he doesn't care to play. Injury issues. Always smiling in the worst situations. With Whiteside, it can be fixed. Dwight has been in the league a while and you can see he just is completely washed. Sure he can give you some defense but come on
 
Cippy91 said:
Yeah but to me Whiteside and Howard are completely different. Whiteside has had issues here and there on the court but plays his ass off. Dudes getting triple doubles with blocks. Meanwhile, Howard plays like he doesn't care to play. Injury issues. Always smiling in the worst situations. With Whiteside, it can be fixed. Dwight has been in the league a while and you can see he just is completely washed. Sure he can give you some defense but come on
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Go watch his nba on tnt interview again
Howard wants to win.

Have you ever been at a dysfunctional job? Shits hard to get motivated in.

And whiteside wanted $$$$ its not hard to see that. He has big ?????'s about if he will be the same player after getting PAID
 
Of course he wants to very paid. Everyone around him is baking bank and the most he has ever made is $980,000. If people at your job were making 10-20x more than one of the top producers, that person would want to get paid as well.
 
TBpup said:
Of course he wants to very paid. Everyone around him is baking bank and the most he has ever made is $980,000. If people at your job were making 10-20x more than one of the top producers, that person would want to get paid as well.
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Yeah, no doubt. But once you get paid, will you still work as hard? Not everyone does.

Too many to name
 
TBpup said:
To be fair, they are the same age within a month, they are of very similar height and weight, (HW is 1" taller) they have almost identical wingspans and are within 1/2" of the same standing reach. They played similar minutes last season (DJ 4 minutes more), neither one will ever shoot a 3-pt shot, both shoot a high FG% although DJ's is ridiculously high as he only dunks where HW has a little bit of a jump hook to go with all his dunks. HW is the much better FT shooter and shot-blocker even though DJ is 2nd in that category. They averaged similar points, DJ had a couple more rebounds, very similar steals and DJ gets and extra 3/4 of an assist a game.

I'm trying to find where they are very dissimilar except for the shot-blocking? DJ has a little more quickness on the perimeter where HW is more of a rim-protector.
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DJ not only makes him team better defensively while on the court, which is something you can't say about Whiteside.
But DJ has shown to the world that he has elite lateral quickness for a man his size. Something Whiteside has not shown.
If I'm not to be believed there are plenty of videos showing what I'm talking about.

Whiteside has shown a go-to-move on the block. Something that can't be said about DJ..
Whiteside has also shown the ability to make free throws... Something the NBA isn't going to require of DJ for too much longer.. Simply because DJ couldn't hit the ocean if he was standing 15ft away from it.

To say Whiteside is a better version of DJ is.... Silly... They have three things in common blocking shots, big screens, and lobs.

Nate said:
Block shots, set screens, rebound, defend, catch ridiculous lobs, deter players from even wanting to come in the paint.... Yeah, I don't see any similarities....
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You didn't say similar you said Whiteside is a better version of DJ.

WAIT ARE YOU WHITESIDE'S AGENT?
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Yeah, no doubt. But once you get paid, will you still work as hard? Not everyone does.

Too many to name
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Absolutely...a very valid concern but just that someone wants to get paid when they never have been isn't reason to wonder about their motives. Going from $981,000 to $21,000,000 is a big concern but he is certainly not the only person in that category. Many players have relaxed after getting a large deal. It's part of the problem with guaranteed deals in the NBA and in MLB. I wish the contracts were more incentive laden with more reward for team success. Is Anthony Davis woth a max deal when his team sucks and he is so often injure?

Guarantee a base and then build incentives into it and some of those concerns go away. My hope is that if HW comes to Portland, he is still hungry and at 27, is still in line for one more long term deal at the end of this contract.
 
TBpup said:
Absolutely...a very valid concern but just that someone wants to get paid when they never have been isn't reason to wonder about their motives. Going from $981,000 to $21,000,000 is a big concern but he is certainly not the only person in that category. Many players have relaxed after getting a large deal. It's part of the problem with guaranteed deals in the NBA and in MLB. I wish the contracts were more incentive laden with more reward for team success. Is Anthony Davis woth a max deal when his team sucks and he is so often injure?

Guarantee a base and then build incentives into it and some of those concerns go away. My hope is that if HW comes to Portland, he is still hungry and at 27, is still in line for one more long term deal at the end of this contract.
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Especially for someone with known maturity issues
 
TBpup said:
Absolutely...a very valid concern but just that someone wants to get paid when they never have been isn't reason to wonder about their motives. Going from $981,000 to $21,000,000 is a big concern but he is certainly not the only person in that category. Many players have relaxed after getting a large deal. It's part of the problem with guaranteed deals in the NBA and in MLB. I wish the contracts were more incentive laden with more reward for team success. Is Anthony Davis woth a max deal when his team sucks and he is so often injure?

Guarantee a base and then build incentives into it and some of those concerns go away. My hope is that if HW comes to Portland, he is still hungry and at 27, is still in line for one more long term deal at the end of this contract.
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Im not saying it was a motive for concerns that he wanted to play well to get paid.

Im saying he could have put up the numbers he did last year because he was so motivated to get paid. And the motive for concern is if after he gets paid, will he still be motivated.
 
I think we are trying to say the same thing.
 
honkicracker said:
DJ not only makes him team better defensively while on the court, which is something you can't say about Whiteside.
But DJ has shown to the world that he has elite lateral quickness for a man his size. Something Whiteside has not shown.
If I'm not to be believed there are plenty of videos showing what I'm talking about.

Whiteside has shown a go-to-move on the block. Something that can't be said about DJ..
Whiteside has also shown the ability to make free throws... Something the NBA isn't going to require of DJ for too much longer.. Simply because DJ couldn't hit the ocean if he was standing 15ft away from it.

To say Whiteside is a better version of DJ is.... Silly... They have three things in common blocking shots, big screens, and lobs.



You didn't say similar you said Whiteside is a better version of DJ.

WAIT ARE YOU WHITESIDE'S AGENT?
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He is. And they have a lot more than 3 things in common. That's why I was talking about similarities... Because you seem to only see 3 things.... And somehow rebounding isn't one of them.
 
honkicracker said:
DJ not only makes him team better defensively while on the court, which is something you can't say about Whiteside.
But DJ has shown to the world that he has elite lateral quickness for a man his size. Something Whiteside has not shown.
If I'm not to be believed there are plenty of videos showing what I'm talking about.

Whiteside has shown a go-to-move on the block. Something that can't be said about DJ..
Whiteside has also shown the ability to make free throws... Something the NBA isn't going to require of DJ for too much longer.. Simply because DJ couldn't hit the ocean if he was standing 15ft away from it.

To say Whiteside is a better version of DJ is.... Silly... They have three things in common blocking shots, big screens, and lobs.



You didn't say similar you said Whiteside is a better version of DJ.

WAIT ARE YOU WHITESIDE'S AGENT?
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Must be a troll.
 
The only new thing I saw on Whiteside was a tweet saying in effect that he is leaning away from teams that don't have stable organizations.
 
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