All Time Players You Would Never Want On Your Team?

[selloutking]

LaMarsha
Felton
Mello
Kobe
LBJ
Rubio
Rondo
Hard-on
Howard
Shaq (hated him when growing up, now I like the comedian he is)
Bosh


that's what comes to mind at the moment

 

[illmatic99]

The all time list is too long, so I'm gonna just cut it down to active players: Kobe, Turkoglu,Harden (I don't want to watch an hr of him falling and shooting FTs every game), Lance, and Felton.

 

[riverman]

Felton
Sprewell
Anthony Mason
JR Rider
Shaq
Shawn Bradley
Greg Oden
Rondo
Starbury
Kobe
Melo
John Starks
Boozer
Babbit
Camby
Greg Ostertag
Rick Fox
Christian Laetner
Gilbert Arenas
Aaron Brooks
Kevin Love
David Lee
Kendrick Perkins
Nolan Smith

 

[Draco]

There are some really good lists/names here. Good job, good effort!

However, my list starts with KG. Even over K*be. Easily over Melo. And it's not really close.

I like Iverson. I would've liked Reggie (on our team). I don't like Harden much, same with Tyson Chandler (remember him trying to out-tough Przybilla for about 2 years straight?) I wouldn't take back #12.

Basically, I hate fake-tough guys. I'm talking about guys who jabber-jaw, punch in nuts, talking about "being a soldier" and "going to war" and then running from an actual fight. I hate fake-tough guys that pick on little guys. Or guys that talk smack but know they'll never have to put up or shut up. (Ricky Davis, Lance Stevenson, Patrick Beverley, I'm looking at you). I also don't have a large spot in my heart for guys who refuse to do the dirty work to be good at their position. Big guy who doesn't rebound? PG who doesn't pass? Wing who doesn't play D? GTFOH.

As for the game, if you have a transcendent one, you have one. MJ was/is a complete asshole, but he could play (obviously). Iverson was similar. I loved watching him play. KG? Not transcendent.

Nobody has ever defended 5 positions like KG. He has the agility of a PG and the length of a center. He scored 20ppg and 13rpg leading the league in rebounding 4 straight years . He shot 50% FG and 80%FT along with 5 assists and 2 blocks. He lead the NBA in PER with 29.4 and 28.2 which are certainly hall of fame numbers. When he finally had great teammates and was healthy for that one season they won the title. Iverson was a better version of Nate Robinson from the Chicago Bulls, a small guard carrying an offense on a great defensive squad. Iverson was never half the player of KG in height or impact on his team.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Nobody has ever defended 5 positions like KG. He has the agility of a PG and the length of a center. He scored 20ppg and 13rpg leading the league in rebounding 4 straight years . He shot 50% FG and 80%FT along with 5 assists and 2 blocks. He lead the NBA in PER with 29.4 and 28.2 which are certainly hall of fame numbers. When he finally had great teammates and was healthy for that one season they won the title. Iverson was a better version of Nate Robinson from the Chicago Bulls, a small guard carrying an offense on a great defensive squad. Iverson was never half the player of KG in height or impact on his team.

And both are reprehensible scumbags.

 

[MarAzul]

I understand hating Kobe, but I sure would love him if he was on my team.

Nope, never.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Man, that would be a long, long list, but I would say Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony and Allan Iverson.

isiah thomas
bill lambier
dwight howard
christian laetner
carmelo
steve francis
bill wennington
bonzi wells

Man, they were ruthless, but I would take Isiah and Lambier any day of the week. As long as they came as a package. That's a ring right there if you surround them right. The others I listed I don't think would ever get a ring no matter who you put around them. Unless they ride the bench and let their team play without them.

 

[riverman]

It is a long list...how could I forget guys like Lamar Odom and Turkeyglue?

 

[BlazerWookee]

It is a long list...how could I forget guys like Lamar Odom and Turkeyglue?

Because they're not worth remembering, lol...

 

[MARIS61]

Bryant and Pippen.

 

[PDXFonz]

Raymond Felton: All time player?

I know its just a thread title, but I get a laugh seeing people list him as an "all time player".

 

[Mediocre Man]

Joe Kline
Jon Koncak
Shawn Bradley
Will Perdue
Chris Mihm

 

[BBert]

It makes no sense to list players I wouldn't want on my Blazers who aren't "all time players". Otherwise the list would be 7.3 billion people long, starting with me.

 

[BBert]

There are few great (aka star) players I'd reject. Shaq and Kobe rub me wrong. I never wanted Iverson. Can't stand Garnett but I'd take him in his prime. Harden is a hell no. Don't want Westbrook polluting my beloved Blazers. Carmelo no. Can't think of anyone else at the moment who is "all time" in my mind. Mini Mouse is my all time least favorite Blazer, if that counts.

 

[mook]

For Blazers its Damon Stoudamire, my least favorite of all time. He would overdribble every possession so the team was rushed into poor shots. Was an average 3 point shooter and that was his best skill. Terrible on defense, and a negative selfish attitude. I primarily blame him for those teams not winning titles. I'd rather have the rapist Ruben, fat Felton, angry Rasheed, spitting Bonzi, dogfighting Qyntel, lazy Darius, coke can pot smoking Rider, bar fighting Gary, or hoops family Randolph. Not to say Damon is a worse person then all of them; he's not. But in terms of play on the court that I have to watch as a fan he was the worst. Plus it was for so many damn years on that huge contract.

Couldn't agree more. It wasn't just that he was a terrible defender whose style of play at the PG position made a range of other really good players less good (at a time when we had a lot of really good players). It's that he got paid so much ($99m back when that was remarkable) and lasted so long (8 seasons!) and was so damned healthy (we never saw what those teams could do with somebody else at the helm) and was so insufferable (his sob sessions with Jason Quick were legion). God damn I hated him.

I've never hated somebody on another team as much as I hated The Mouse. I always had the option of skipping Kobe Bryant or Shaq games. Stoudamire was the de facto face of my franchise (completely undeservedly). I was forced to put up with Damon's bullshit for 8 years on a nightly basis. I'll never stop hating him for that.

 

[Boob-No-More]

My list of least liked players consists mostly of players who thought they were way better than they really were, and ball hogging shoot first PGs, along with a few guys who are just totally clueless assholes.

Michael Olowakandi - the guy was considered a huge bust, yet still had the nerve to demand a max. contract after his rookie deal was up. In one of the few smart moves Elgin Baylor ever made as a GM, he let him walk for nothing - and get the better end of that deal. MIN signed him for less than his rookie deal, and they still regretted it.

Antoine Walker - when you're a power forward and you lead the league in FGA but shoot less than 40% from the field, you're killing your team. In his "prime" Walker had two years in a row where he attempted over 1500 field goals with FG% less than .400 (.394 FG% on 1689 FGA in 2001-02 and .388 FG% in 1554 FGA in 2002-03). Walker inexplicably made the all star team in both of those seasons (since when is a PER = 14.6 all star worthy???). And the worst part is that on the rare occasions Walker actually made a shot, he was too busy doing that stupid shimmy bullshit to be bothered to get back on defense.

Carmelo Anthony - it's bad enough he's a ball movement killing black hole, but the whole Melo Drama bit leading up to the trade deadline in 2011 basically had this prima donna holding two franchises hostage for most of the season. The guy is a great scorer, but it doesn't seem possible to build a winner around a guy who dominates the ball so much.

Latrell Sprewell - choking your coach becuase he told you to "put a little mustard on your passes", turning down a 3 year $27 million contract at the tail end of your career because it's not enough to feed your kids - and then getting a restraining order barring you from seeing those kids - are just a few of Sprewell's boneheaded moves. He had talent, but he was an incredible asshole. Runner up - Kobe Bryant 1: Laker, 2: Rapist, 3. Arrogant, abrasive attitude that has made it impossible for the winningest franchise in league history to attract top quality free agents. That's three strikes right there. The fact that the Clippers have become the destination of choice for free agents in Los Angeles speaks volumes for how much other players hate Kobe. Just ask Shaq and Karl Malone how much they liked having Kobe as a teammate.

With so many shoot first, ball hog PGs to choose from (Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Russell Westbrook, etc.), it was hard to choose just one, but it would have to be Gilbert Arenas. Agent Zero IQ had a shit ton of talent, but pulling a gun, on a teammate in the locker room has to be the definition of a locker room cancer. Threatening to cap a teammate is the ultimate chemistry killer. Runner up goes to Delonte West - boning your superstar teammate's mom during the playoffs is also a real chemistry killer.

BNM

 

[BlazerWookee]

Raymond Felton: All time player?

I know its just a thread title, but I get a laugh seeing people list him as an "all time player".

I didn't read that to mean "All Time Greats," just anybody who has ever played in the NBA...

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I didn't read that to mean "All Time Greats," just anybody who has ever played in the NBA...

Agreed. And regarding the other statement of "Why not name 7.3 billion people?", I assume the premise is, "players who are talented enough to help my team, but whom I wouldn't want because of the way they play or the type of person they are."

 

[dead247]

Seriously? I'm the only one who can't stand MATT BARNES?!

 

[maxiep]

What else is there to do in the dog days?

What players would you never want on your team, and why? For me it would be

Carmelo - A ballhog who makes everyone on his team worse
Rasheed - A talented A-hole
Dwight Howard - A fake good player
JR Smith - Head case
Ruben Patterson - Need I give a reason?
Russell Westbrook - Something about him - his grandstanding? - rubs me the wrong way

1/3 of mine are former Blazers : (

The real dog days are when the season starts and we get fisted night after night.

 

[maxiep]

LaMarcus Aldridge.

He's too much of a Spur to ever wear the Scarlet and Black.

 

[crandc]

BNM, I had forgotten all about Kandi Man!

Which I guess tells you a lot about how forgettable he was.

 

[jlprk]

While active players, Barkley and Dominique Wilkins had reputations of selfishness. (Barkley was disliked by star teammates on all 3 of his teams.) After retiring, the media has annointed them as good guys. To a lesser degree (selfish but only a little detrimental to the team), the same goes for Chamberlain and Maravich. The media rewrites history into a grade achool level, in which each historical figure was either all good or all bad.

 

[Chris Craig]

Harden
Bry*nt
Felton
Iverson
Fox
Howard
Hilario
Miles
Wallace
Felton
Telfair
Anthony
Anderson (Bird)
James
Garnett
Love
Crawford
Ginosebli
Westbrook
Felton
Brooks
Beverly
Rodman
Miller (Reggie)
Griffin
Felton

You forgot Felton

 

[Chris Craig]

Bryant
Peace
Felton
Hardon
Jr Smith
Lamartha
Lebron
Nowitski
Anyone who has ever been on the Lakers...besides Kaman, Davis, and Blake
Etc.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Markieff Morris. The only 'kieff I want is the stuff that goes in a bowl......

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Carmelo.

Anthony.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Bruce Jenner. He was an all time great. He was drafted into the NBA in like the 10th round as the "best available athlete" - I kid you not.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Bruce Jenner. He was an all time great. He was drafted into the NBA in like the 10th round as the "best available athlete" - I kid you not.

You mean Kaitlyn? Who's Bruce?