Am I the only one who liked Trader Bob?

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There was one rumor going around that Cho was fired because PA's health isn't too good and he wants to win now rather then go back into some sort of a rebuilding mode.

I liked Whitsett as GM. I know he was he architect of the Jail Blazer era but I think he could have gotten us out of a lot quicker than Nash/Patterson/KP did. The dude knew how to turn a roster quickly. The Pippen trade, the trade for Steve Smith, there were so great moves.

If we are only going to have 2 years to really wheel and deal before the hard cap goes in place I say bring back Trader Bob!
 
I think Trader Bob was fantastic ... other than his ability to select coaches.

Ed O.
 
I think with the right people around him, Trader Bob would be ok. He can't be allowed to reassemble another laughing stock team that hgives the city a bad name though.
 
Trader Bob was great when he had a $100 million payroll and couldn't even make an NBA Finals, and ultimately even out of the first round. He had only 3 50-win teams in 9 seasons as GM, and he took over a playoff team.

Pritchard had two 50-win teams in 4 seasons, and took over a 21-win team. Plus, he did it while preserving cap space.

Revisionist history is fun.
 
Trader Bob was great when he had a $100 million payroll and couldn't even make an NBA Finals, and ultimately even out of the first round. He had only 3 50-win teams in 9 seasons as GM, and he took over a playoff team.

Pritchard had two 50-win teams in 4 seasons, and took over a 21-win team. Plus, he did it while preserving cap space.

Having lottery picks to work with is something, isn't it? Players on rookie scale contracts help quite a bit.

Whitsitt had a remarkable streak of success as the Blazers' GM... Pritchard might have had one, too, but he got fired so we'll never know.

Ed O.
 
Having lottery picks to work with is something, isn't it? Players on rookie scale contracts help quite a bit.

Whitsitt had a remarkable streak of success as the Blazers' GM... Pritchard might have had one, too, but he got fired so we'll never know.

Ed O.

I'm not saying I didn't like the Trader Bob days. Those teams were fun and won games. The problem was that they didn't accomplish their goal, and then left the organization bereft of the resources for a quick rebuild. Whitsitt over PatterNash is a no-brainer. Whitsitt over Pritchard? I'm going with Pritchard, based on what he took over, and the more rigid financial constraints in place at that time because of the bankruptcy of the arena.

Both were solid Blazer GMs, though. Bob was the right GM for Allen at that time, just as KP was the right GM for Allen after the tear-down.
 
I'm not saying I didn't like the Trader Bob days. Those teams were fun and won games. The problem was that they didn't accomplish their goal, and then left the organization bereft of the resources for a quick rebuild. Whitsitt over PatterNash is a no-brainer. Whitsitt over Pritchard? I'm going with Pritchard, based on what he took over, and the more rigid financial constraints in place at that time because of the bankruptcy of the arena.

Both were solid Blazer GMs, though. Bob was the right GM for Allen at that time, just as KP was the right GM for Allen after the tear-down.

I think it's safe to say that Trader Bob would have gotten more for Zbo than KP did.

And I did like KP as GM.
 
Trader Bob was great when he had a $100 million payroll and couldn't even make an NBA Finals, and ultimately even out of the first round. He had only 3 50-win teams in 9 seasons as GM, and he took over a playoff team.

Pritchard had two 50-win teams in 4 seasons, and took over a 21-win team. Plus, he did it while preserving cap space.

Revisionist history is fun.


This is right on the money. I have to admit it was fun to see what he would do, and you always knew he would do something. But what a great amount of screwed up personalities he amassed.
 
Trader Bob > KP

no contest for me. He built the only team that was able to get out of the first round in the past 19 years.
 
What does he currently do for a living? If he has been out of the NBA then no. I used to talk to Bob at the old Rocky Mountain Revues. I liked him. And I agreed with his philosopy of getting plenty of depth. But like all GM's he made mistakes. (Petrie giving Petrovic away and Bob giving O'neil away)

I wonder how a low hard cap will effect trades.
 
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i was sad when he left, i always liked the fact he brought in all those great players those teams had like 12 starters
 
I think it's safe to say that Trader Bob would have gotten more for Zbo than KP did.

And I did like KP as GM.

Actually, Trader Bob would have taken ZBO off of somebody's hands for young talent mixed with crap. See Shawn Kemp and Dale Davis for the blueprint.
 
I think Whittsit did a great job of identifying and assembling talent, but he was horrible at managing the cap and he felt like more of a fantasy sports manager rather than an actual sports manager ... I'd be fine if he came back, but we'd probably all have to accept the distinct possibility of this thing is going to go off the rails again (but it's already off the rails, so whatever).
 
Actually, Trader Bob would have taken ZBO off of somebody's hands for young talent mixed with crap. See Shawn Kemp and Dale Davis for the blueprint.

Yes. better than what KP did.
 
I think Whittsit did a great job of identifying and assembling talent, but he was horrible at managing the cap and he felt like more of a fantasy sports manager rather than an actual sports manager ... I'd be fine if he came back, but we'd probably all have to accept the distinct possibility of this thing is going to go off the rails again (but it's already off the rails, so whatever).

It was the era of SPAM!

Spending Paul Allen's Money!

Whitsitt was great at getting PA to write checks.
 
I think Trader Bob was fantastic ... other than his ability to select coaches.

I also didn't like most of his free agent signings. Kenny Anderson, Derek Anderson. Brian Grant was good, but we did have Rasheed Wallace already. But nobody NOBODY beat him in a trade. Exciting times!

(If only he'd've just let Brian Grant walk and kept Jermaine... Oh, and fired Dunleavy sooner.)
 
The Dale Davis for Jermaine made perfect sense at the time. Windows, baby, Windows.
 
When I think of Bob Whitsitt, I'm reminded of what Edward Bennett Williams once said about George Allen: "I gave him an unlimited budget...and he exceeded it."
 
The Shawn Kemp and Dale Davis aquisitions were mistakes, but Whitsitt made a lot of great trades during his tenure in Portland. I wouldn't mind having him back as long as he promised not to assemble another roster of thugs.
 
I liked Trader Bob a lot, and agree that his worst move was bring Damon to Portland. I wouldn't mind him coming back, but he wouldn't be my first choice.

Go Blazers
 
I liked Whitsitt a lot. I liked both him and Pritchard, I thought both were great deal-makers. Nash was an unmitigated disaster and Cho remains a question mark...fired before he could define himself as a GM.

I'd love to have either Whitsitt or Pritchard back. Petrie would also be a nice retro hire.
 
Yes. better than what KP did.

Actually, thinking more about it, Trader Bob would have traded away ZBO during ZBO's rookie deal as part of a package for some aging veteran on a huge contract.
 
I like Whitsitt, and I'd love to see him be a GM for Portland again. The O'Neal for Davis trade was bad, but I still think his worst move was signing Stoudamire to that max contract. Stoudamire's contract hampered the team from upgrading at the PG position.

The team was so far over the cap that Stoudamire's contract didn't really matter.
 
There was one rumor going around that Cho was fired because PA's health isn't too good and he wants to win now rather then go back into some sort of a rebuilding mode.

I liked Whitsett as GM. I know he was he architect of the Jail Blazer era but I think he could have gotten us out of a lot quicker than Nash/Patterson/KP did. The dude knew how to turn a roster quickly. The Pippen trade, the trade for Steve Smith, there were so great moves.

If we are only going to have 2 years to really wheel and deal before the hard cap goes in place I say bring back Trader Bob!

Sorry, but can't give him props. The bad outweighed the good during his era. Complete mess!!!
Just say NO to Whitsitt.
 
i was sad when he left, i always liked the fact he brought in all those great players those teams had like 12 starters

That, IMHO, not the Jailblazers image, was Whitsitt's downfall. He just never knew when to stop. He had assembled a championships caliber team, and then, thanks to one fourth quarter meltdown, destroyed it. That team was extremely talented, with great depth and a good mix of hungry young players and veterans. He should have let it bake.

Even after he traded Jermaine O'Neal for Dale Davis and Brian Grant for the fat, coke addicted Shawn Kemp, the Blazers had the best record in the league on March 5, 2001. The signing of Rod Strickland was the straw that broke the camel's back. There were already PT issues and disgruntled players. Scottie Pippen had been out with an injury, with Stacy Augmon starting at SF. The team played well, Augmon played well and the team kept winning. While Pippen was out, Whitsitt convinced Detlef Schrempf to come back out of retirement (again) and granted him special privileges (did not need to practice with the team, could spend off days in Seattle with his family and only fly down to Portland for the games). That caused resentment by the other players, and when Pippen came back from his injury, the team was suddenly 3 players, who all expected significant minutes, deep at SF. Augmon was pissed that, after playing well, he went from starter to third on the depth chart.

Going back to the previous post season, there were already PT issues at the PG spot, with Damon complaining that Greg Anthony was getting all the 4th quarter minutes. Damon was smoking a lot of pot at the time, and was extremely paranoid and insecure. Signing Rod Strickland made a bad situation worse. Now, the Blazers were also 3 players, all who expected significant minutes, deep at PG as well.

The team, that hadn't lost more than 2 games in a row all season, immediately lost 5 in a row and 14 of their last 22 games. In less than a month and a half, they fell from the best record in the league to 8th seed in the West and were swept by the Lakers in the 1st round. The team hasn't won a playoff series since.

In a desperate attempt to "win now", Whitsitt assembled TOO much veteran "talent", much of that talent was past its prime, but still expected starter’s minutes. When you have two guys who expect to start at every position, and three guys who are used to starting at two positions, it creates huge PT issues and players start to focus more on what's best for them and not what's best for the team. In assembling all this veteran talent, Whitsitt also mortgaged the team's future, in both talent and salary cap implications. We ended up with a roster full of severely overpaid, past their prime, malcontents.

If he would have just stopped, and stuck with that team that was so close to winning a title the year before, I'm convinced the Blazers would have won at least one championship in the 2001 - 2004 time frame. That team had the right mix of youth an experience, stars and role players . Unfortunately, he just couldn't stop meddling. It was like he was addicted to the rush of making a trade, or signing a veteran free agent. He seemed completely oblivious to the impact these moves made on the other players, and also oblivious to the fact that the players he was acquiring were well past their primes.

So during his time in Portland, Whitsitt proved, that given enough leeway and an open checkbook, he could assemble a team capable of winning a championship. Unfortunately, he also proved he could destroy that team before it had a chance to reach its full potential. That, to me, and not the Jailblazers image, is Whitsitt's legacy in Portland. Although, I do understand those who were more offended by the embarrassment the Jailblazers caused our fair city and our beloved franchise.

I’d much rather have Geoff Petrie back than Bob Whitsitt. Petrie has also proven he’s capable of assembling a championship caliber team. And, he did it in Sacramento with tightwad owners and less to start with. And, he did it without assembling a team that was an embarrassment off the court. And he has recent/current experience. Whitsitt has been out of the league for eight years. In that time, the rules have changed, as has is owner’s willingness to freely spend money on players of questionable character.

BNM
 
I love Whitsitt, he would be my dream hire. Those teams were so much more fun, exciting, and good!

We wouldn't have any of this crap where Juwan Howard is starting at center, two D leaguers are the backup big men and Patty Mills is playing backup point.

I want to see more talent on this team and I believe Whitsitt would acquire it better than anybody.
 
I love Whitsitt, he would be my dream hire. Those teams were so much more fun, exciting, and good!

We wouldn't have any of this crap where Juwan Howard is starting at center, two D leaguers are the backup big men and Patty Mills is playing backup point.

I want to see more talent on this team and I believe Whitsitt would acquire it better than anybody.
It's hard to argue with that.
 
1) McMillan doesn't know how to use many talents at once. He only knows how to have 1 or 2 guys do everything. He is the unWhitsitt.

2) Bob Whitsitt would now be hampered by Vulcan beancounters. Maybe oversight is good, although it's probably what made Cho quit. PapaG seems to hate a GM being managed.

3) Good thread. Uncle owes me $31 so far.

4) Bob Whitsitt is the greatest entity in existence, nonexistence, imagination, or the afterworld, whether the entity be plant, animal, rock, or ghost.
 

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