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KeepOnRollin said:
I wasn't the biggest fan of Meyers Leonard the player but anyone who watches that video has to be a fan of Meyers Leonard the person.
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This. Dont mind the person at all.

But he was herr 7 years too long. Litetally did nothing unless the series was already decided. Mainly cause you couldnt trust him at any other time.
 
The destructive blind bias of the stubborn anti-Meyers members of this forum is being revealed here. That kind of thinking has a major effect on holding back Blazer chances for the Championship and needs to be replaced with the kind of confidence-building fan comments that optimize player performance. What Blazer fans need if we are to see success is a willingness to recognize and promote efficient talent where it can be found, and to move past the time of degenerate statements that conflict with the facts.

Since game 52 on Jan 30 when Meyers led the Blazers to the 132-105 beating of the Jazz that had embarrassed us twice (by 30 points Dec 21 and 21 points Dec 25), a few determined to stubbornly ignore Meyers accomplishments failed to give him earned credit. And for the outstanding scoring efficiency of WCF Game 4 first half by Meyers that was on the way to possibly winning that game, comments like Strenuus disrespectful Meyers hatred are glaring rejections of reality.

For WCF Game 4, Meyers led the Blazers with a TS% of 88.9 and had an ORtg of 145, and in that game as in the game 52 win, set the best screens and made some of the best assist passes of any Blazer. Meyers played the high post well, provided spacing, and brought scoring power that strongly contributed. Denying that he provided excellent play simply hides from the facts.

In the 7 seasons as a Blazer, Meyers was held back by Terry and the stridently biased comments of Strenuus and other anti-Meyers members of this forum. The opportunity has been lost to win the Championship with Meyers as a top NBA shooting efficiency player. But for the future, the measure of being a Blazer fan should be the recognition and encouragement of shooting talent that is necessary for wins in a talented NBA where scoring 15+ swish3s and 130+ points per game should be targets. Let's encourage, not deny, our most talented scoring Blazers!
 
Hey said:
After he got hot, we went away from him. I don't believe it was because the Warriors caught on. It was more like Dame and CJ finally had room to operate with him being hot so they kind of unintentionally forgot about him. Meyers was the reason we were even close to winning that game.
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After he got hot, they started guarding him.
 
swish3 said:
The destructive blind bias of the stubborn anti-Meyers members of this forum is being revealed here. That kind of thinking has a major effect on holding back Blazer chances for the Championship and needs to be replaced with the kind of confidence-building fan comments that optimize player performance. What Blazer fans need if we are to see success is a willingness to recognize and promote efficient talent where it can be found, and to move past the time of degenerate statements that conflict with the facts.

Since game 52 on Jan 30 when Meyers led the Blazers to the 132-105 beating of the Jazz that had embarrassed us twice (by 30 points Dec 21 and 21 points Dec 25), a few determined to stubbornly ignore Meyers accomplishments failed to give him earned credit. And for the outstanding scoring efficiency of WCF Game 4 first half by Meyers that was on the way to possibly winning that game, comments like Strenuus disrespectful Meyers hatred are glaring rejections of reality.

For WCF Game 4, Meyers led the Blazers with a TS% of 88.9 and had an ORtg of 145, and in that game as in the game 52 win, set the best screens and made some of the best assist passes of any Blazer. Meyers played the high post well, provided spacing, and brought scoring power that strongly contributed. Denying that he provided excellent play simply hides from the facts.

In the 7 seasons as a Blazer, Meyers was held back by Terry and the stridently biased comments of Strenuus and other anti-Meyers members of this forum. The opportunity has been lost to win the Championship with Meyers as a top NBA shooting efficiency player. But for the future, the measure of being a Blazer fan should be the recognition and encouragement of shooting talent that is necessary for wins in a talented NBA where scoring 15+ swish3s and 130+ points per game should be targets. Let's encourage, not deny, our most talented scoring Blazers!
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swish3 said:
No. We utilized Meyers well only in the 1st half, and not game planning for 6 swish3 attempts in the 2nd half probably cost us that game. That was my point. Blazer coaches need to recognize and feed the hot hand. Terry failed to do that in this and several games this year, and we would benefit if he can improve.

We certainly can and do appreciate Meyers as a person, and should strive to treat Blazer players with respect and recognition of talent better than this Forum treated Meyers.
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Theres this thing thats called "being guarded" that makes this "swish3" thing more difficult.
 
https://clutchpoints.com/blazers-news-meyers-leonard-retires-own-portland-jersey/

Meyers Leonard commemorates his time with the Portland Trail Blazers by raising his own jersey into the rafters of his own house.

Leonard, who was traded to the Miami Heat as part of a four-team trade for Jimmy Butler, took it to social media to show that he retired his Blazers jersey. He captioned the post “all good things must come to an end.” The 27-year-old power forward retired his own No. 11 jersey while Darude’s “Sandstorm” played on nearby speakers.

 
ABM said:
https://clutchpoints.com/blazers-news-meyers-leonard-retires-own-portland-jersey/

Meyers Leonard commemorates his time with the Portland Trail Blazers by raising his own jersey into the rafters of his own house.

Leonard, who was traded to the Miami Heat as part of a four-team trade for Jimmy Butler, took it to social media to show that he retired his Blazers jersey. He captioned the post “all good things must come to an end.” The 27-year-old power forward retired his own No. 11 jersey while Darude’s “Sandstorm” played on nearby speakers.

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Much like Kyrie (and Kanter :lol:), he wants to bee the reason no one else wears #11. Of course in his case, it's because the number is now tainted...
 
Binx said:
You don’t learn instincts. You either have them or you don’t. Leonard was a miserable NBA player. He never picked up a single post move in seven years. His game reminded me of Martell Webster, another guy who never seemed to change or adapt his game in any way.
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I am not a huge Meyers fan, but this is a little embellished. The guy may not have a lot of defensive instincts, but he still has some offensive instincts. He rarely made mental mistakes on offense. He can shoot, pass, and set a decent screen. Again not sorry to see him go, but he is far from a "miserable NBA player".
 
swish3 said:
The destructive blind bias of the stubborn anti-Meyers members of this forum is being revealed here. That kind of thinking has a major effect on holding back Blazer chances for the Championship and needs to be replaced with the kind of confidence-building fan comments that optimize player performance. What Blazer fans need if we are to see success is a willingness to recognize and promote efficient talent where it can be found, and to move past the time of degenerate statements that conflict with the facts.

Since game 52 on Jan 30 when Meyers led the Blazers to the 132-105 beating of the Jazz that had embarrassed us twice (by 30 points Dec 21 and 21 points Dec 25), a few determined to stubbornly ignore Meyers accomplishments failed to give him earned credit. And for the outstanding scoring efficiency of WCF Game 4 first half by Meyers that was on the way to possibly winning that game, comments like Strenuus disrespectful Meyers hatred are glaring rejections of reality.

For WCF Game 4, Meyers led the Blazers with a TS% of 88.9 and had an ORtg of 145, and in that game as in the game 52 win, set the best screens and made some of the best assist passes of any Blazer. Meyers played the high post well, provided spacing, and brought scoring power that strongly contributed. Denying that he provided excellent play simply hides from the facts.

In the 7 seasons as a Blazer, Meyers was held back by Terry and the stridently biased comments of Strenuus and other anti-Meyers members of this forum. The opportunity has been lost to win the Championship with Meyers as a top NBA shooting efficiency player. But for the future, the measure of being a Blazer fan should be the recognition and encouragement of shooting talent that is necessary for wins in a talented NBA where scoring 15+ swish3s and 130+ points per game should be targets. Let's encourage, not deny, our most talented scoring Blazers!
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Im glad the words he never read made such a difference! In fact, given your scenario, he MADE money because of me.
 
BonesJones said:
After he got hot, they started guarding him.
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Meyers basically had two playoff series that defined his time in Portland: Memphis and this year against Golden State. Memphis had no answer for him, and Gasol was definitely trying to guard him. Golden State was basically a one-game explosion, and I'm on the fence whether defense or offense cooled him off in the second half.

When Meyers is hot, he's pretty tough to defend.

Keep Kim Hughes around, and Meyers not dealing with depression and medication up till 2 years ago, and I believe the period between those two series would be viewed much more fondly.
 
What happened in the 2nd half of WCF Game 4 was that Dame, CJ, Rod, and Evan stopped passing to Meyers when he was open and thus squandered the chance to win. CJ was 0 of 5 (0 of 3 swish3s) and Dame was 1 of 4 swish3s with Meyers open on the arc. When Blazer coaches learn to feed the hot swish3 shooting hand (Meyers actually beat Steph in swish3 shooting in WCF Game 4 first half, and for the season), and not to stop as they did here, we will win more. Meyers was definitely scoring when guarded, as noted in the last shot of the 1st half, and was open at the end of the 4th Q and the OT, and could have won this game, and if started in WCF Games 1 and 2, possibly the WCF.

Yes Meyers did contribute outstandingly in both the Grizzlies and GSW Playoff series, established Blazer Playoff shooting records, and led all Blazers in this year's Playoff scoring in 6 categories:
14 of 33 (42.4%) swish3s
Edit: 20 of 32 (62.5%) of 2PA
34 of 65 (52.3%) FG
eFG% of 63.1%
WS/48 of 0.154
TS% of 61.6 (he was 88.9% in WCF Game 4!)

Now that we are missing him, it is important to recognize and respect scoring talent where we find it, and encourage rather than demoralize our Blazers. We should learn from Meyers and move ahead on the Blazer culture that he helped to build. Meyers deserves credit that is quite opposite to the most negative comments that I have seen on this Forum. Let's be fans of the Blazers!
 
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swish3 said:
What happened in the 2nd half of WCF Game 4 was that Dame, CJ, Rod, and Evan stopped passing to Meyers when he was open and thus squandered the chance to win. CJ was 0 of 5 (0 of 3 swish3s) and Dame was 1 of 4 swish3s with Meyers open on the arc. When Blazer coaches learn to feed the hot swish3 shooting hand (Meyers actually beat Steph in swish3 shooting in WCF Game 4 first half, and for the season), and not to stop as they did here, we will win more. Meyers was definitely scoring when guarded, as noted in the last shot of the 1st half, and was open at the end of the 4th Q and the OT, and could have won this game, and if started in WCF Games 1 and 2, possibly the WCF.

Yes Meyers did contribute outstandingly in both the Grizzlies and GSW Playoff series, established Blazer Playoff shooting records, and led all Blazers in this year's Playoff scoring in 5 categories:
14 of 33 (42.4%) swish3s
34 of 65 (52.3%) FG
eFG% of 63.1%
WS/48 of 0.154
TS% of 61.6 (he was 88.9% in WCF Game 4!)

Now that we are missing him, it is important to recognize and respect scoring talent where we find it, and encourage rather than demoralize our Blazers. We should learn from Meyers and move ahead on the Blazer culture that he helped to build. Meyers deserves credit that is quite opposite to the most negative comments that I have seen on this Forum. Let's be fans of the Blazers!
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@swish3 , are you going to be alright?!? I truly hope that Skal can somehow fill that Hammer-sized void in your soul left by Meyers' departure.
 
swish3 said:
What happened in the 2nd half of WCF Game 4 was that Dame, CJ, Rod, and Evan stopped passing to Meyers when he was open and thus squandered the chance to win. CJ was 0 of 5 (0 of 3 swish3s) and Dame was 1 of 4 swish3s with Meyers open on the arc. When Blazer coaches learn to feed the hot swish3 shooting hand (Meyers actually beat Steph in swish3 shooting in WCF Game 4 first half, and for the season), and not to stop as they did here, we will win more. Meyers was definitely scoring when guarded, as noted in the last shot of the 1st half, and was open at the end of the 4th Q and the OT, and could have won this game, and if started in WCF Games 1 and 2, possibly the WCF.

Yes Meyers did contribute outstandingly in both the Grizzlies and GSW Playoff series, established Blazer Playoff shooting records, and led all Blazers in this year's Playoff scoring in 5 categories:
14 of 33 (42.4%) swish3s
34 of 65 (52.3%) FG
eFG% of 63.1%
WS/48 of 0.154
TS% of 61.6 (he was 88.9% in WCF Game 4!)

Now that we are missing him, it is important to recognize and respect scoring talent where we find it, and encourage rather than demoralize our Blazers. We should learn from Meyers and move ahead on the Blazer culture that he helped to build. Meyers deserves credit that is quite opposite to the most negative comments that I have seen on this Forum. Let's be fans of the Blazers!
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If HS pans out as hoped/expected. Leonard will be quickly forgotten and go the way of Dante Cunningham....a decent vanilla-flavored contributor.
 
ABM said:
If HS pans out as hoped/expected. Leonard will be quickly forgotten and go the way of Dante Cunningham....a decent vanilla-flavored contributor.
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Assuming that by HS, you mean Hassan Whiteside, we are indeed hoping for improved scoring from him, but don't expect him to score swish3s. I hope that Anthony, Rodney, Baze, and Mario can refine swish3 shooting skills to result in 1 or more of them reaching a 40% average that will be needed for more than 48 wins next season.

For this thread, the most remarkable feature is the stubborn refusal of a few mean-spirited forum members to recognize and appreciate (and encourage) Blazer talent where we can find it. If we can give the kind of fan comments so often expressed for Zach and Simons to all of the Blazers, their confidence and therefore performance can be better optimized for more wins. Just do it!
 
swish3 said:
Assuming that by HS, you mean Hassan Whiteside, we are indeed hoping for improved scoring from him, but don't expect him to score swish3s. I hope that Anthony, Rodney, Baze, and Mario can refine swish3 shooting skills to result in 1 or more of them reaching a 40% average that will be needed for more than 48 wins next season.

For this thread, the most remarkable feature is the stubborn refusal of a few mean-spirited forum members to recognize and appreciate (and encourage) Blazer talent where we can find it. If we can give the kind of fan comments so often expressed for Zach and Simons to all of the Blazers, their confidence and therefore performance can be better optimized for more wins. Just do it!
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Good thing Meyers is no longer Blazer talent then.
 
swish3 said:
Assuming that by HS, you mean Hassan Whiteside, we are indeed hoping for improved scoring from him, but don't expect him to score swish3s. I hope that Anthony, Rodney, Baze, and Mario can refine swish3 shooting skills to result in 1 or more of them reaching a 40% average that will be needed for more than 48 wins next season.

For this thread, the most remarkable feature is the stubborn refusal of a few mean-spirited forum members to recognize and appreciate (and encourage) Blazer talent where we can find it. If we can give the kind of fan comments so often expressed for Zach and Simons to all of the Blazers, their confidence and therefore performance can be better optimized for more wins. Just do it!
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When are you going to the miami forum?
 
Anyone care to caption this pic?

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Pinwheel1 said:
I am not a huge Meyers fan, but this is a little embellished. The guy may not have a lot of defensive instincts, but he still has some offensive instincts. He rarely made mental mistakes on offense. He can shoot, pass, and set a decent screen. Again not sorry to see him go, but he is far from a "miserable NBA player".
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Really? He never even averaged double figures in scoring or rebounding in seven seasons. Never really took his game up another level, even though he had many opportunities to do so. Many nights he seemed invisible out there. And he very rarely blocked a shot, even though he’s a seven footer.
 
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