OT Andrew Cuomo Allegations

[ABM]

Good. It's good to be principled. It's also good to be open minded

But, of course.

 

[ABM]

She is saying she doesn't see you and others on the right making these threads when Republicans like Trump, Madison Cawthorn etc get accused.

The women accusing them are thrown under the bus by conservative posters here and the claims are denounced as not credible.

That makes sense.

 

[riverman]

She is saying she doesn't see you and others on the right making these threads when Republicans like Trump, Madison Cawthorn etc get accused.

He's not asking these veiled questions because he wants answers...it's because he doesn't have answers but it's a chance to poke a stick at some New York City libs....saying you can shoot someone on 5th avenue and the people will still love you got his vote twice.....even if that guy is a serial sexual predator. Being a sexual predator is not important to that fan base...never has been

 

[Chris Craig]

That makes sense.

It makes sense that the conservatives on here don't make threads about Republicans accused of sexual harassment/assault/rape? Hmm

 

[Chris Craig]

He's not asking these veiled questions because he wants answers...it's because he doesn't have answers but it's a chance to poke a stick at some New York City libs....saying you can shoot someone on 5th avenue and the people will still love you got his vote twice.....even if that guy is a serial sexual predator. Being a sexual predator is not important to that fan base...never has been

Oh, I know he is trying to get a poke in. I'm just letting him know the double standard is not on the side of the left but on his side.

 

[ABM]

It makes sense that the conservatives on here don't make threads about Republicans accused of sexual harassment/assault/rape? Hmm

Your response to me makes sense. My comment to you wasn't as to the reason behind it.

 

[Chris Craig]

Your response to me makes sense. My comment to you wasn't as to the reason behind it.

It's not necessary to hide behind your words. You should make attempts at conversation or even argument rather than using passive veiled stings with no burn.

 

[riverman]

Like to make a case comparison ...Cuomo put his hand on the lower back of a woman...held her face in his hands and asked to kiss her.......Trump grabs pussies. ...raped a woman and has been accused of actual rape....Cuomo has been accused of inappropriate behavior....just thought some perspective was needed....one guy came on to several women and embraced them...the other forced himself on them without asking at all. If your moral panties are in a twist....you will want to see the rapist held accountable as well as the flirt...but these two cases are not the same in terms of what occurred

 

[Chris Craig]

Like to make a case comparison ...Cuomo put his hand on the lower back of a woman...held her face in his hands and asked to kiss her.......Trump grabs pussies. ...raped a woman and has been accused of actual rape....Cuomo has been accused of inappropriate behavior....just thought some perspective was needed....one guy came on to several women and embraced them...the other forced himself on them without asking at all. If your moral panties are in a twist....you will want to see the rapist held accountable as well as the flirt...but these two cases are not the same in terms of what occurred

Not that any such behavior should be excused. Your right. They should both be held accountable. I see only one side being held accountable.

 

[ABM]

It's not necessary to hide behind your words. You should make attempts at conversation or even argument rather than using passive veiled stings with no burn.

Republican bashing is a common activity around these parts. I'm not hiding behind any words.

 

[ABM]

 

[Voodoo]

Like to make a case comparison ...Cuomo put his hand on the lower back of a woman...held her face in his hands and asked to kiss her.......Trump grabs pussies. ...raped a woman and has been accused of actual rape....Cuomo has been accused of inappropriate behavior....just thought some perspective was needed....one guy came on to several women and embraced them...the other forced himself on them without asking at all. If your moral panties are in a twist....you will want to see the rapist held accountable as well as the flirt...but these two cases are not the same in terms of what occurred

Cuomos mistake was that he didn’t have these women sign NDA’s before harassing them.

 

[Voodoo]

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[Chris Craig]

Republican bashing is a common activity around these parts. I'm not hiding behind any words.

You were. And you often are with your indirectness and your victim playing. Have a conversation. I'm not Republican bashing. I'm asking for fair accountability. I want to have the conversation.

 

[Voodoo]

This guys a fucking creep, just like Giuliani when he was recounting his perversion about Michelle Wei.

 

[riverman]

Republican bashing is a common activity around these parts. I'm not hiding behind any words.

There's no need to bash republicans....they have done a bang up job of that on their own.....what you see isn't bashing...it's intelligent observation leading to actual disgust. Fuck the maga crowd and the fascists that populate it. They attacked our democracy and you still cheer for them...

 

[Chris Craig]

She is saying she doesn't see you and others on the right making these threads when Republicans like Trump, Madison Cawthorn etc get accused.

The women accusing them are thrown under the bus by conservative posters here and the claims are denounced as not credible.

See, I posted a thread about the accusations against Cawthorn and its immediately excused and not accepted as credible.

 

[riverman]

In Europe many people kiss each other on both cheeks as a greeting...it's not considered sexual harrassment...to take someone to court for walking up to you and kissing your cheeks would have to imply flirtation....and how do you prove that in court?

 

[ABM]

You were. And you often are with your indirectness and your victim playing. Have a conversation. I'm not Republican bashing. I'm asking for fair accountability. I want to have the conversation.

Don't be quick to accuse, and I'll conversate. In this case, what about what I said made you think I was hiding behind any words?

I said: Dang, if this dude had been a Republican, a thread on him would have 300 comments by now. LOL
crandc responded: If he was a Republican he would be praised
I responded: But, he's not. So what are you trying to say? Is this a case of, "I know your are, but what am I"?
You responded: She is saying she doesn't see you and others on the right making these threads when Republicans like Trump, Madison Cawthorn etc get accused. The women accusing them are thrown under the bus by conservative posters here and the claims are denounced as not credible.
I responded: That makes sense.

What I was implying was that what you remarked "made sense" in that I was effectively posting something non-conservative, so why would a liberal et al start this thread (and why would my original line allude to such). You also rightly pointed out that there is nary a thread started by a conservative bashing a conservative.

In essence, I was in agreement with you.

 

[riverman]

I'll conversate.

I'll converse....not converse 8....that's a tennis shoe size

 

[ABM]

I'll converse....not converse 8....that's a tennis shoe size

Yep.

Although, I'm not entirely incorrect..

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/is-conversate-a-real-word

 

[Chris Craig]

Don't be quick to accuse, and I'll conversate. In this case, what about what I said made you think I was hiding behind any words?

I said: Dang, if this dude had been a Republican, a thread on him would have 300 comments by now. LOL
crandc responded: If he was a Republican he would be praised
I responded: But, he's not. So what are you trying to say? Is this a case of, "I know your are, but what am I"?
You responded: She is saying she doesn't see you and others on the right making these threads when Republicans like Trump, Madison Cawthorn etc get accused. The women accusing them are thrown under the bus by conservative posters here and the claims are denounced as not credible.
I responded: That makes sense.

What I was implying was that what you remarked "made sense" in that I was effectively posting something non-conservative, so why would a liberal et al start this thread (and why would my original line allude to such). You also rightly pointed out that there is nary a thread started by a conservative bashing a conservative.

In essence, I was in agreement with you.

Good.

You first comment innsenuated a doubled standard. It was indirect.

It seemed Crandc in her response was upset about that innsenuation.

I myself didn't care for it.

I shared that many on the left came out against Cuomo and have in the past come out against other democratic politicians accused of similar misconduct. I stated when Republicans are accused they are immediately excused. I posted a thread about Cawthorn to make my point and it was immediately made.

In asking you not to hide behind your words I was referring to this:

"Your response to me makes sense. My comment to you wasn't as to the reason behind it."

As well as your original post. Stop being indirect man. Say what you mean to say. Instead of innsenuation and implication be direct. Make the argument. Have the conversation.

I often start threads regarding all sides of the spectrum. I enjoy the conversation and the argument. Not to mention liberal members of the forum do start these threads about democratic politicians accused of such things. The Al Franken thread was started by a more liberal member of the forum for instance.

 

[ABM]

Good.

You first comment innsenuated a doubled standard. It was indirect.

Actually, it was a direct comment. That said, as you pointed out and I agreed with, it wasn't really fair, and to some degree, inappropriate. That's the discussion we should be having.

 

[Chris Craig]

Actually, it was a direct comment. That said, as you pointed out and I agreed with, it wasn't really fair, and to some degree, inappropriate. That's the discussion we should be having.

To me it was indirect. That's my opinion though and we will leave it at that.

As for the other, I highly encourage you and other members of the right to post threads about such misconduct of politicians on the right as I highly recommend the same for those on the left.

 

[ABM]

I highly encourage you and other members of the right to post threads about such misconduct of politicians on the right as I highly recommend the same for those on the left.

K.

 

[Lanny]

Trump assures public he always kept mask off when screwing women other than his wife.

 

[speeds]

Cuomo is scum.

 

[Hoopguru]

These allegations and thats what they are have taken the emphasis off the possible alleged nursing home death numbers cover up and manipulation?
He's a power single NY gov thats around a lot of flirty NY women, its possible both were wading in a little to far. If there is assault or harassment to any degree it needs to be reported right away, if you dont it will continue with others.

 

[stampedehero]

Cuomo is a target and he's brought much of it on himself. The numbers of seniors deaths not reported? Flirting gov with flirty women in NYC is common. Not saying its right, just the way its been in some circles for centuries.
If he's been sexually harassing women he should resign or be fired.

With that being the qualifier, Trump should have never had his name on a voting machine.

 

[SlyPokerDog]