Any here have mature children that are finally coming out of the fog?

[MarAzul]

My oldest daughter was a very bright girl in her school days, Valedictorian and all.
She went to UC Berkley and did very well there but damn after graduating there, she was such a liberal that we could hardly discuss a peanut butter sandwich without a confrontation.

I learned to zip my lip and hoped for the best, but it went on and on like that until very recently.
She is 52 years old now, lives in Raleigh, NC . She went through adjusting to ObamCare changes for her family and she is not happy! Not happy at all. We talked Sunday about several things,
but I only remember one. She said, "Dad, you we're right, the Affordable Care act is terrible, I am very disappointed in this President".

I am trying to think of another time we have agreed in 30 years now.

 

[Natebishop3]

My oldest daughter was a very bright girl in her school days, Valedictorian and all.
She went to UC Berkley and did very well there but damn after graduating there, she was such a liberal that we could hardly discuss a peanut butter sandwich without a confrontation.

I learned to zip my lip and hoped for the best, but it went on and on like that until very recently.
She is 52 years old now, lives in Raleigh, NC . She went through adjusting to ObamCare changes for her family and she is not happy! Not happy at all. We talked Sunday about several things,
but I only remember one. She said, "Dad, you we're right, the Affordable Care act is terrible, I am very disappointed in this President".

I am trying to think of another time we have agreed in 30 years now.

A lot of people are starting to realize how horrible Obama is.

 

[MARIS61]

My oldest daughter was a very bright girl in her school days, Valedictorian and all.
She went to UC Berkley and did very well there but damn after graduating there, she was such a liberal that we could hardly discuss a peanut butter sandwich without a confrontation.

I learned to zip my lip and hoped for the best, but it went on and on like that until very recently.
She is 52 years old now, lives in Raleigh, NC . She went through adjusting to ObamCare changes for her family and she is not happy! Not happy at all. We talked Sunday about several things,
but I only remember one. She said, "Dad, you we're right, the Affordable Care act is terrible, I am very disappointed in this President".

I am trying to think of another time we have agreed in 30 years now.

It's a shame Reagan tore your family apart so many years ago, as he did to so many American families.

Sounds like you and your daughter owe President Obama a big THANK YOU for bringing you back together finally.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

It's a shame Reagan tore your family apart so many years ago, as he did to so many American families.

Sounds like you and your daughter owe President Obama a big THANK YOU for bringing you back together finally.

lol . . . that was good maris

 

[MarAzul]

It's a shame Reagan tore your family apart so many years ago, as he did to so many American families.

Sounds like you and your daughter owe President Obama a big THANK YOU for bringing you back together finally.

Ha! Well that is one take. I have come up with another, I am not going to help send anymore kids to any liberal indoctrination campus. Scratch Berkley.

 

[MARIS61]

I'm ALL about the silver lining.

 

[Eastoff]

Ha! Well that is one take. I have come up with another, I am not going to help send anymore kids to any liberal indoctrination campus. Scratch Berkley.

One know one thing I always found interesting about the take that "colleges are liberal breeding grounds" is that, well no duh! Republicans want more money than college professors make.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

One know one thing I always found interesting about the take that "colleges are liberal breeding grounds" is that, well no duh! Republicans want more money than college professors make.

And college professors are smarter

 

[MarAzul]

And college professors are smarter

umm, well most of them voted for Obama, I sure as hell didn't.

 

[MarAzul]

When Obama was first making noise about being President and how he would fix the VA, I thought, well there might be an upside, slim chance but maybe.
Then we heard no more, the only change I saw was his picture on the wall at the VA damn near immediately and then they closed my VA clinic in Bandon.
Bye bye hope, slim became Fat chance.

 

[PapaG]

And college professors are smarter

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

 

[PapaG]

It's a good thing we have Obama to even out the distribution of wealth. Imagine how prosperous we'd all be without his rhetoric against the 1%!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101743657

Millionaire population soars to 16 million households

The world added 2.6 million millionaire households last year, showing that the rich are getting richer—and far more numerous, according to a report released Monday.

The total number of millionaire households in the world rose 19 percent last year, to 16.3 million households, according to Boston Consulting Group's Global Wealth report. Millionaire households represent 1.1 percent of all households globally.

The U.S. added the most millionaire households and has the highest total, with a gain of 1.1 million households last year. That brings the total to 7.135 million.

 

[Eastoff]

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

Those who can't, teach; leaving youth continuously getting stupider (for effect).

 

[PapaG]

Those who can't, teach; leaving youth continuously getting stupider (for effect).

It's true. SAT and ACT have both been dumbed down since I took them. Common Core is more about lowering the smart kids to the level of the dumber ones than it is anything else.

 

[Eastoff]

It's true. SAT and ACT have both been dumbed down since I took them. Common Core is more about lowering the smart kids to the level of the dumber ones than it is anything else.

You know, I haven't researched enough about the Common Core, but I thought it was a better attempt at making the nation as a whole at an even level, and that the standards are actually decent to aim for. Not trying to sound snarky, so could you show me some stuff pointing at your claim?

 

[PapaG]

You know, I haven't researched enough about the Common Core, but I thought it was a better attempt at making the nation as a whole at an even level, and that the standards are actually decent to aim for. Not trying to sound snarky, so could you show me some stuff pointing at your claim?

I have kids who are smart. They sat there twiddling their thumbs this year because "blended" classes are now the rage, instead of separating kids by their intelligence.

 

[Eastoff]

I have kids who are smart. They sat there twiddling their thumbs this year because "blended" classes are now the rage, instead of separating kids by their intelligence.

We had blended classes back in 1993-96. They aren't new. They existed then because there are awkward numbers of students for the number of teachers to make class sizes work. It's a growing pain. Try to ask your kids how many students of a specific age group are in each blended class. Ie do they have two halves to make a whole or do they have three halves?

(If that last bit is worded poorly, I can try to rephrase it.)

 

[jlprk]

My oldest daughter was a very bright girl in her school days, Valedictorian and all.
She went to UC Berkley and did very well there but damn after graduating there, she was such a liberal that we could hardly discuss a peanut butter sandwich without a confrontation.

I learned to zip my lip and hoped for the best, but it went on and on like that until very recently.
She is 52 years old now, lives in Raleigh, NC . She went through adjusting to ObamCare changes for her family and she is not happy! Not happy at all. We talked Sunday about several things,
but I only remember one. She said, "Dad, you we're right, the Affordable Care act is terrible, I am very disappointed in this President".

I am trying to think of another time we have agreed in 30 years now.

Does she want Single Payer? Is she unhappy that he's too far to the right, or left? Like the Fox Network, you unify both kinds of dissatisfaction into one, pretending that it's all from the right.

I'm very dissatisfied in him too, but not for the reasons you are.

 

[MarAzul]

Does she want Single Payer? Is she unhappy that he's too far to the right, or left? Like the Fox Network, you unify both kinds of dissatisfaction into one, pretending that it's all from the right.

I'm very dissatisfied in him too, but not for the reasons you are.

That's why we need a civil war to clarify the objectives. The Constitution makes good sense to those that understand why we have it.
To those that don't we should bring absolute clarity.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I have kids who are smart. They sat there twiddling their thumbs this year because "blended" classes are now the rage, instead of separating kids by their intelligence.

I do give my kids' teachers mad props. My oldest (only in kindergarten)..... they wanted to start her in first grade this year, if not second. As proud as I was my child is advanced, I didn't want to put her in a difficult situation. Thankfully, the teacher had a student teacher, and there is at least one parent in the room everyday. As kids are learning to read in groups, my daughter reads to the teacher, and they send her into older classrooms for other various activities. They keep her challenged, but don't put her in awkward positions socially.

It's still quite early in her development, and if things continue as they are, there's a good chance she'll need to skip a grade. I'm thankful our child (at least initially) has been put in a great place to succeed. That being said, I'm not holding my breath she'll get this same treatment in the future.

 

[PapaG]

I do give my kids' teachers mad props. My oldest (only in kindergarten)..... they wanted to start her in first grade this year, if not second. As proud as I was my child is advanced, I didn't want to put her in a difficult situation. Thankfully, the teacher had a student teacher, and there is at least one parent in the room everyday. As kids are learning to read in groups, my daughter reads to the teacher, and they send her into older classrooms for other various activities. They keep her challenged, but don't put her in awkward positions socially.

It's still quite early in her development, and if things continue as they are, there's a good chance she'll need to skip a grade. I'm thankful our child (at least initially) has been put in a great place to succeed. That being said, I'm not holding my breath she'll get this same treatment in the future.

If it is anything like our experience, you're in for one bored kid for the next 5 years. The TAG program in our district is a joke. I'm not sure what they even do, other than pull kids out of class for TAG once a month. The curriculum, other than her 3rd grade teacher, was exactly the same as other students.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

If it is anything like our experience, you're in for one bored kid for the next 5 years. The TAG program in our district is a joke. I'm not sure what they even do, other than pull kids out of class for TAG once a month. The curriculum, other than her 3rd grade teacher, was exactly the same as other students.

And this is why I said, "I won't hold my breath." Anything we as parents want to do to keep our kids ahead and challenged in school requires a direct hit to our wallets. And sometimes, that even doesn't get it done.

 

[MARIS61]

If it is anything like our experience, you're in for one bored kid for the next 5 years. The TAG program in our district is a joke. I'm not sure what they even do, other than pull kids out of class for TAG once a month. The curriculum, other than her 3rd grade teacher, was exactly the same as other students.

When my kids were in TAG at Milwaukie the parents were included pretty heavily and I was impressed with the depth of the projects and competitions. The regular schooling OTOH was rudimentary to the point of ridiculous. They targeted the slowest in the class and bored/ignored the rest.

 

[jlprk]

Many, many people become more liberal, open, antiwar, and personable as they get older and more confident. The young fog of fear, conservatism, and inhibitions about showing their loving side dissipates. The high-energy need to fight and kill all the time, as Marzul is wont to do, runs out of steam...and fog.

 

[PDXFonz]

Were you guys able to talk about peanut butter sandwiches?

 

[Run BJM]

Many, many people become more liberal, open, antiwar, and personable as they get older and more confident. The young fog of fear, conservatism, and inhibitions about showing their loving side dissipates. The high-energy need to fight and kill all the time, as Marzul is wont to do, runs out of steam...and fog.

I've always heard the opposite is more true. Younger people tend to be more liberal and idealistic, then get conservative later when they have kids of their own and their life's savings to protect.

 

[jlprk]

Conservatives claim, "If you're not liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you're not conservative at 40 you have no brain."

Of course, they don't take that to its logical end...saying that the millions of young conservatives are heartless.