Apocalypse 2012

[Opal]

I saw this book at Borders the other day and skimmed through it and whatnot and got me thinking if it was really true. It had all these different theories.http://www.apocalypse2012.com/There is the website for it.Anybody think this is true?

 

[SirLaker]

I remember watching this thing on history channel about the Mayans and their predictions. The day the world would supposedly end on December 21, 2012. People give leverage to it because they are the Mayan people, and were very intelligent. Of course, there have been quite a few world ending threats in the past so it is hard to believe these things. But if it did happen, it wouldn't surprise me entirely.

 

[Opal]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jul 2 2007, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I remember watching this thing on history channel about the Mayans and their predictions. The day the world would supposedly end on December 21, 2012. People give leverage to it because they are the Mayan people, and were very intelligent. Of course, there have been quite a few world ending threats in the past so it is hard to believe these things. But if it did happen, it wouldn't surprise me entirely.</div>That is true and most of their other predictions have came true, I just don't see the world ending abruptly like that.

 

[ASUFan22]

I believe in this more than 6/6/06 because the Mayans have been right about a lot, but I don't expect anything to happen. Nostradamus didn't predict it this early I don't think and well, he has been right about everything.

 

[Memphology]

From what ive seen on tv, its not just the Mayans predictions but theres several other Apocalyptic predictions that people say is dated to 2012. I dont take it seriously, although its extremely eery seeing that alotve the Mayans predictions have come true, but from my personal beliefs you will never know when the end of the world is until it happens.EDT: I didnt take 6/6/06 seriously at all...that date has popped up a good 10 times already....

 

[the_pestilence]

ehhh...well the only way I'd see it happening is the sunspot cycle is going to peak in 2011, and it could cause problems in a world that's incredibly electronics dependant.

 

[noballer08]

Whatever...didn't the Mayans believe that 2012 was the beginning of a new cycle, not exactly the end of the world but a period of 'changes'?

 

[Memphology]

Im not sure, but I think your right. That life is started over every so and so years or something...to clense the Earth. Not sure, ima look that up tomorrow.

 

[noballer08]

I remember NASA talking about some kind of meteor that will come near the Earth around that time; wierd...

 

[Memphology]

Im basicly waiting on rednecks response...hes been in here for a few minutes..

 

[Opal]

I just know that their calender ends at that time, it could mean a new beginning.Anybody ever though possibly that they just got tired of making a calender considering that they had wrote over 400 years or so of dates in it?

 

[redneck]

I've read a lot of stuff about this, and most of it's crap. The Mayan calander does end on that date, but it doesn't predict the end of the world, just a new(I forget what they called them) and that every thing will start back at the begining.The two scaries end of time predictionest I have read are Father Mullighan, and Taqik Al-Shamder(sp?). Mulligan was a 6th century monk who has accuratly predicted every pope since his time. he doesn't do it by name, but rather by something unique to that pope. His second to last Pope was a boater, John Paul II was an boater. his last Pope he said would Anger the followers of Muhammed(which he did), and would estentially end the Catholic Church.Al-Shamder predicted that the greatest conflicts in World history would begin 7 days after the summer solstace, 1015 after the year of his birth. Al-Shamder was born in the year 999, and sure enough to the exact day World War one began. He also predicted that in the new lands of the Vyk, a tyrant leader born of the people will distroy Islam, Christiandom and good itself. Vyk is an old term for the Vikings, and during the same time the Vikings discovered New Foundland, North America. And there is also a lot of striff between Christinaity and Islam right now. Al-Shamder also predicted that the Tyrant would not be a man, but a woman, and she would bring about the 4th of the 4 conflict to end humanity(WWI, WWII, Cold War). Shamder was right on many of his predictions, and I've always wondered why he isn't more famous. He said that the Ruske would invade the Persians, and the USSR did invade Afghanistan. Wars would reign throught out the Islamic lands prior to the the 4th conflict, and sure enough they are. And that machine not men would do the killing.Another guy which I can't remember his name. said something about to many people on the lands would push them down and the sea would overflow. this could be a reference to global warming.

 

[Memphology]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Jul 3 2007, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've read a lot of stuff about this, and most of it's crap. The Mayan calander does end on that date, but it doesn't predict the end of the world, just a new(I forget what they called them) and that every thing will start back at the begining.The two scaries end of time predictionest I have read are Father Mullighan, and Taqik Al-Shamder(sp?). Mulligan was a 6th century monk who has accuratly predicted every pope since his time. he doesn't do it by name, but rather by something unique to that pope. His second to last Pope was a boater, John Paul II was an boater. his last Pope he said would Anger the followers of Muhammed(which he did), and would estentially end the Catholic Church.Al-Shamder predicted that the greatest conflicts in World history would begin 7 days after the summer solstace, 1015 after the year of his birth. Al-Shamder was born in the year 999, and sure enough to the exact day World War one began. He also predicted that in the new lands of the Vyk, a tyrant leader born of the people will distroy Islam, Christiandom and good itself. Vyk is an old term for the Vikings, and during the same time the Vikings discovered New Foundland, North America. And there is also a lot of striff between Christinaity and Islam right now. Al-Shamder also predicted that the Tyrant would not be a man, but a woman, and she would bring about the 4th of the 4 conflict to end humanity(WWI, WWII, Cold War). Shamder was right on many of his predictions, and I've always wondered why he isn't more famous. He said that the Ruske would invade the Persians, and the USSR did invade Afghanistan. Wars would reign throught out the Islamic lands prior to the the 4th conflict, and sure enough they are. And that machine not men would do the killing.Another guy which I can't remember his name. said something about to many people on the lands would push them down and the sea would overflow. this could be a reference to global warming.</div>Ive never heard of Al-Shamder but he sounds intresting and the stuff you pointed out is oddy accurate. Im probably going to try to find a book in him, you recomend anything?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Al-Shamder also predicted that the Tyrant would not be a man, but a woman, and she would bring about the 4th of the 4 conflict to end humanity(WWI, WWII, Cold War).</div>I wonder who that could be.... :no1:

 

[Opal]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Jul 2 2007, 11:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've read a lot of stuff about this, and most of it's crap. The Mayan calander does end on that date, but it doesn't predict the end of the world, just a new(I forget what they called them) and that every thing will start back at the begining.The two scaries end of time predictionest I have read are Father Mullighan, and Taqik Al-Shamder(sp?). Mulligan was a 6th century monk who has accuratly predicted every pope since his time. he doesn't do it by name, but rather by something unique to that pope. His second to last Pope was a boater, John Paul II was an boater. his last Pope he said would Anger the followers of Muhammed(which he did), and would estentially end the Catholic Church.Al-Shamder predicted that the greatest conflicts in World history would begin 7 days after the summer solstace, 1015 after the year of his birth. Al-Shamder was born in the year 999, and sure enough to the exact day World War one began. He also predicted that in the new lands of the Vyk, a tyrant leader born of the people will distroy Islam, Christiandom and good itself. Vyk is an old term for the Vikings, and during the same time the Vikings discovered New Foundland, North America. And there is also a lot of striff between Christinaity and Islam right now. Al-Shamder also predicted that the Tyrant would not be a man, but a woman, and she would bring about the 4th of the 4 conflict to end humanity(WWI, WWII, Cold War). Shamder was right on many of his predictions, and I've always wondered why he isn't more famous. He said that the Ruske would invade the Persians, and the USSR did invade Afghanistan. Wars would reign throught out the Islamic lands prior to the the 4th conflict, and sure enough they are. And that machine not men would do the killing.Another guy which I can't remember his name. said something about to many people on the lands would push them down and the sea would overflow. this could be a reference to global warming.</div>Hillary Clinton? :shok: Just kidding, but good post redneck, I am now scared even more knowing all his predictions are correct and it seems we are coming towards that period. :beee:

 

[Memphology]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ Jul 3 2007, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hillary Clinton? :shok: Just kidding, but good post redneck, I am now scared even more knowing all his predictions are correct and it seems we are coming towards that period. :beee:</div>You shouldnt be, Hilary is in the position to be that... :no1:

 

[noballer08]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ Jul 3 2007, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hillary Clinton? :shok: Just kidding, but good post redneck, I am now scared even more knowing all his predictions are correct and it seems we are coming towards that period. :beee:</div>That's exactly what I was thinking. But of course we have always thought that Bush would be the anti-Christ...And I haven't heard of this Al-Shamder guy, Google doesn't even pick up a search even when I spell it in different ways...

 

[redneck]

It may not be Hilliary. I dont recall if he set a date or anyting when this was to happen, but even if it happened in the time frame of 2012, it could still not be Hilliary. there is still an election in 2012, plus Canada could always elected a crazy female leader.

 

[Opal]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Jul 2 2007, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It may not be Hilliary. I dont recall if he set a date or anyting when this was to happen, but even if it happened in the time frame of 2012, it could still not be Hilliary. there is still an election in 2012, plus Canada could always elected a crazy female leader.</div>True, but the election is in September so you would think the president could only do so much in 4 months.

 

[redneck]

Thats true, and the president doesn't take office until 2013 anyhow. could always be the vice-president.I know I'm Spelling him name wrong. I typed Al-Shamder into the search engine and its not comming back with anything. I'll try to find the book.

 

[Opal]

I want to check out the guy if anybody can find any info on him.

 

[Justice]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ Jul 3 2007, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the election is in September</div>uh, what

 

[Opal]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jul 3 2007, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>uh, what</div>Not this September.

 

[808Hornetsfan]

All I know is I'll be 21 or so and I'll have had a good life and if it's time for me to go, then it's time for me to go. It's just interesting to see how these guys predict these things, pretty spooky. :shifty2:

 

[Memphology]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ Jul 3 2007, 02:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not this September.</div>Your talking about the Canadian election right? Cause the US is in December...

 

[Justice]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BluffCityBlue @ Jul 3 2007, 02:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Cause the US is in December...</div>strike 2

 

[Memphology]

November ...I hope...Ive always thought it was December...its atleast around that time...I know that for sure.

 

[l?ckdown]

I watched that History Channel Special and it was interesting, but people around the world have been doing this for centuries. Y2k was the latest example: Electronics going haywire, things going awry, it didn't happen. There was many of these prophecies. One of them was about this Christian man (sorry, but forgot his name) who had used the Bible to see and predict that the world would end sometime around like 1600 or so. He told all the people that the world would end, and many people believed him, but again nothing happened. People put too much into prophecies. Ever wonder why someone finds a "correct" prediction of Nostradamus AFTER the thing happened? It's all about interpretation. Someone may think that it means this, while another may not. There are many doomsday prophecies by various people. People are so into this thing, like the Bible Code, even though it's not that deep as people think. These theories have been very diverse, stating that the world will end to that aliens will come, or that we will become more in touch with the world.I'm sorry that I'm taking this exactly from wikipedia but it proves my point:"Maya stela occasionally show dates beyond 2012. Most of these are in the form of "distance dates", where a Long Count date is given with a distance date to be added. For example, on Tikal Stela 10 we find the following Long Count date: 9.8.9.13.0 8 Ahau 13 Pop (24th March 603 AD Gregorian) with a distance date of 10.11.10.5.8. The resulting date is given as 1.0.0.0.0.8 5 Lamat 1 Mol, or 21st October 4772 AD ? almost 3,000 years into the future.""Despite the publicity generated by the 2012 date, Susan Milbraath, curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology at the Florida Museum of Natural History, stated that "We [the archaeological community] have no record or knowledge that [the Maya] would think the world would come to an end" in 2012.""For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."Much like with Y2k (the many "life preserving kits") this is mostly some loose interpretation that is most probably going to be used to make a lil money. I am not saying that people made this date up just for money, but people will try to milk it for something.This just happens to be something that will not happen again for a long time (a new millenium in 2000 as well) and people think that there HAS to be some significance to it. Evangelists have been telling people on t.v. for years that the "end times are coming, repent now." Then they pass the collection plate, and ask for you to buy some Jesus Juice to help cure AIDS.

 

[The Captain]

The world WILL end in 2012 once the Olympics start with that horrible logo.

 

[LAZY]

I'm going to get completly sh*t faced on 12/21/2012, just incase. I'll be in my basement with a computer and viagra

 

[SpursFan10]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>People put too much into prophecies.</div>Julius Caesar didn't listen to a prophecy... Look at what happened to him.