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There are no thunderbolt TVs and no thunderbolt DVRs.

The whole point of my idea is that it costs a few cents in parts to add to an existing Apple TV and the rest is software. No end user has to go out and replace their home theater, just the $99 Apple TV box.

BUT the appleTv could have them installed and eventually pursued the users to change based on performance. JUSt like they did with Firewire, still leaving USB as an option.
 
HDMI 1.4 supports an ethernet channel.

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What are the limits/capacity of hdmi? I've seen usb vs firewire or tb, but I've never seen anything compared to hdmi (probably because it is used for audio/video connections and not computers). But apple is having a hard enough time getting computer peripherals to switch to TB. I can't see them being successful (at least not for a few years) implementing it on TVs as well.

HDMI's biggest issue is cost and inability to communicate with external hard drives. I think for the appleTV to fully work well, they need total integration.
 
BUT the appleTv could have them installed and eventually pursued the users to change based on performance. JUSt like they did with Firewire, still leaving USB as an option.

I'm guessing you're talking about the iTV again. If you have an iTV, you wouldn't need an Apple TV, so the modifications Denny is talking about wouldn't matter. He is saying make a slight mod to an existing product to work with existing TVs and DVRs. That is why adding an hdmi in would work, but a TB port wouldn't.
 
HDMI 1.4 supports an ethernet channel.

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The media issue isn't the problem. It's having the terabytes to support a large library of media that could be an issue. I guess you could have the iTV be the external HD source, but that creates the "connecting" to the TV; which personally isn't innovative. Samasung and other manufacturers have these "connection type" add ons for their TVs. Apple has to reinvent the way you watch TV.
 
I'm guessing you're talking about the iTV again. If you have an iTV, you wouldn't need an Apple TV, so the modifications Denny is talking about wouldn't matter. He is saying make a slight mod to an existing product to work with existing TVs and DVRs. That is why adding an hdmi in would work, but a TB port wouldn't.

iTV is a huge purchase that most families would forgo, I'd think. For the $99 price for Apple TV, anyone with a TV could likely afford it.

And if Apple did go the iTV route, someone is going to do my idea and bury them anyway. :)
 
BTW

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genlock

With HDMI, they could overlay whatever they want on top of the video in source. Like picture in picture, on screen guide, etc.

It's nearly free for Apple, and it really could change the way people watch TV.

They could notice you like to watch a show like 24 from season 1 to season 8 all at once and tailor its recommendations for you accordingly.
 
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...a-one-bear-niles-reverses-course-buys-shares/

CNBC‘s “Fast Money Halftime Report” a short while ago hosted Dan Niles of Alphe One Capital, who has been bearish on Apple (AAPL) for some time now, said that he’s been buying the shares on the company’s having more than doubled its capital return plan on the occasion of its fiscal Q2 report a week ago.

Niles told the program’s Scott Wapner:

We haven’t really liked Apple since the middle of last year when they started missing numbers. The numbers have been consistently coming lower since then. The products aren’t that good, margins are compressing. We started buying AAPL stock day before they reported, and we bought the next three days, bringing us to a full position. It real comes down to, as you pointed out, look at US treasuries, offering 1.6%, and with Apple, they’re going to return, between dividends and stock buyback, upward of 7% per year. Estimates have gotten cut in half. So, unlike a year ago, you have gone ahead and reset that, and there are potentially positive catalysts with the Worldwide Developer Conference on June 10th. Also, on margin, commodity prices, DRAM and flash, are starting to come down again. Those were going up in Q4, which a lot of people chose to ignore. Flash is a big component in their cost structure, that’s going to help them a lot. A lot of great investments start out as trades. Look at what the company has done. For years they returned no capital to shareholders. [CEO Tim] Cook started a dividend policy a year ago, and now he’s increased that tremendously. Think about that: a $400-billion-market-cap company that’s going to return $100 billion to you. That’s really big. Don’t get me wrong, if they weren’t returning this much capital, I wouldn’t own it. But if you’ve got a 7% return per year, and you’ve got US treasuries at 1.6%, and you’ve got new products coming, I think it’s worth a shot.

Apple shares today are up $11.45, or 2.7%, at $441.57.
 
http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/04/apple-inc-aapl-gets-vote-of-confidence-from-russias-richest-man/

Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) may not be the ‘hottest tech’ company to invest in right now but that doesn’t stop some investors from taking the risk. Alisher Usmanov, Russia’s wealthiest man, recently purchased $100 million in Apple shares.

Usmanov explained his decision to Bloomberg, “When the company lost $100 billion of its market value, it was a good time to buy its shares, as the capitalization should rebound. But for the next three years I believe Apple is a very promising investment, especially given large dividend payments and buybacks. I believe in the future of this company even after Steve Jobs.”
 
Mags,

Why aren't you updating this thread when aapl goes down? :devilwink:

Oh sorry... Was busy at work.

439.00 -3.78 (-0.85%)
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0.85% drop isn't much, especially since they just hit record breaking bond sales of 10 billion just today.
 
Oh sorry... Was busy at work.

439.00 -3.78 (-0.85%)
Real-time: 3:23PM EDT

0.85% drop isn't much, especially since they just hit record breaking bond sales of 10 billion just today.

Speaking of the bond sales... I just don't get it. This seems like a silly move, IMHO.
 
They are avoiding the 35% corporate tax if they bring their cash in the U.S. for the share but back program.

No, I get the math behind the decision. That's pretty obvious and straightforward.

I just don't really agree with the general logic of distributing the cash back. They are either 1) Pandering to stockholders or 2) Admitting they don't have a lot of great ideas for investment of capital that will outperform stockholder investments 3) Some combination of 1) and 2).

Either way, it doesn't come across as a positive outlook to me.
 
No, I get the math behind the decision. That's pretty obvious and straightforward.

I just don't really agree with the general logic of distributing the cash back. They are either 1) Pandering to stockholders or 2) Admitting they don't have a lot of great ideas for investment of capital that will outperform stockholder investments 3) Some combination of 1) and 2).

Either way, it doesn't come across as a positive outlook to me.

There is a merger with tmobile and apple. Also I believe this fall will have 3-4 innovative product and service announcements by apple.

The company I think apple has its eye on is intel. I think they buy them in a year from now.
 
Merger with TMobile? I think you're mixing up T-mobile now having the iPhone in their lineup and T-mobile's merger with MetroPCS.

Buying Intel would be a game changer. I hadn't heard those rumors before.
 
There is a merger with tmobile and apple. Also I believe this fall will have 3-4 innovative product and service announcements by apple.

The company I think apple has its eye on is intel. I think they buy them in a year from now.

Even if the Intel thing has any truth to it, this doesn't explain why they would try to raise cash by selling bonds in order to buy back shares.
 
Merger with TMobile? I think you're mixing up T-mobile now having the iPhone in their lineup and T-mobile's merger with MetroPCS.

Buying Intel would be a game changer. I hadn't heard those rumors before.

Oops my bad! Hahaha!
 
Even if the Intel thing has any truth to it, this doesn't explain why they would try to raise cash by selling bonds in order to buy back shares.

True, just thinking the intel thing could be an option. Their phones are on the Samsung chip; whom is their biggest competitor on the cell market. Shun them 100% by manufacturing your own chips. And apple OS is familiar with Mac desktop platform. Why not incorporate the cell chip?
 
The fastest ARM CPUs are as fast as the slowest Intel Atom CPU. Nowhere near fast enough for a laptop or desktop computer.
 
Intel would cost $200B to buy. Divide that by # of processors they buy and you get an idea if there's any savings to be had.
 
Intel would cost $200B to buy. Divide that by # of processors they buy and you get an idea if there's any savings to be had.

It's not just that. It's actually getting a return on the cash. Cash doesn't make you money unless you invest it
 

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