Are manners,courtesy dead?

[bodyman5000 and 1]

So, I still see people holding doors for others. However, most other things I was taught seem to be disappearing.

I was at Winco Saturday and just as my first items were hitting the cashier a lady walked up holding three things. I told her to go in front of me and she seemed kinda shocked.

I see people who obviously notice this same situation and they don't offer the person the same .

After the lady was done she turned and thanked me again. She was a middle aged black woman so I don't know what she thought about it and I would have loved to know but didn't ask.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Is the poorly worded sentence on purpose? Is NOT to just what?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'm nice when I'm in Oregon but an asshole when I'm here in LA.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I let people go ahead of me sometimes, but once you let one guy go, it seems like another lady comes up with two items, and if i dont let her go she acts all pissed off.

People always think their time is more valuable than others and its annoying.

Seems like its very common.for people to hold open doors in oregon.

Personally, i just dislike people. Most of them are assholes and im already cynical enough.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I let people go ahead of me sometimes, but once you let one guy go, it seems like another lady comes up with two items, and if i dont let her go she acts all pissed off.

People always think their time is more valuable than others and its annoying.

Seems like its very common.for people to hold open doors in oregon.

Personally, i just dislike people. Most of them are assholes and im already cynical enough.

My rule is one, I will let one car go ahead of me if people are in a parking lot trying to get on the road. If we all followed that rule things would move smoother.

 

[Chris Craig]

So, I still see people holding doors for others. However, most other things I was taught seem to be disappearing.

I was at Winco Saturday and just as my first items were hitting the cashier a lady walked up holding three things. I told her to go in front of me and she seemed kinda shocked.

I see people who obviously notice this same situation and they don't offer the person the same .

After the lady was done she turned and thanked me again. She was a middle aged black woman so I don't know what she thought about it and I would have loved to know but didn't ask.

Yes, courtesy and manners are if not dead, currently flightlining, and everyone is staring at its bluing body for the sake of entertainment. Kids aren't being taught the same things we did about manners. I hold doors, let people jump ahead of me in line, get on the bus ahead of me...I'm a god damned gentleman. The problem I see is all the teens from this new generation running around being rude jackasses. The world is changing @bodyman5000 and 1 and not for the good.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Yes, courtesy and manners are if not dead, currently flightlining, and everyone is staring at its bluing body for the sake of entertainment. Kids aren't being taught the same things we did about manners. I hold doors, let people jump ahead of me in line, get on the bus ahead of me...I'm a god damned gentleman. The problem I see is all the teens from this new generation running around being rude jackasses. The world is changing @bodyman5000 and 1 and not for the good.

I told my wife that if I'm the nicest guy around we're truly fucked.

 

[oldfisherman]

For several decades, I believed manners where dead. I used to tell many rude people my dog had better manners then they did.

However, the last year or so, good manners appears to be making a comeback. The number of people showing courtesy and respect towards others has increased. I have no clue why, but I like it.

 

[Hobbesarable]

It was like that in China as well. I was quite surprised how quiet the students were in class. They were prepared and ready every morning.

 

[MARIS61]

Maybe it's your location.

Manners abound here in Beautiful Central Oregon.

 

[dviss1]

I teach my son to hold doors/pull out chairs for ladies, look people in the eye when speaking and shaking hands etc. Chivalry will not die on my watch.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Maybe it's your location.

Manners abound here in Beautiful Central Oregon.

When i attended osu, corvallis people were incredibly polite and friendly. Portland is definitely full of more jerks. And the jerk population is growing with the cali transplants.

San fran and most of cali is full of assholes.

 

[blue32]

I teach my son to hold doors/pull out chairs for ladies, look people in the eye when speaking and shaking hands etc. Chivalry will not die on my watch.

You start opening doors for ladies, and letting them go first, you'll be accused of being sexist (among other things), or get a big fuck you from the feminists SJW's.

It's a no win situation, quickly disappearing in America.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

You start opening doors for ladies, and letting them go first, you'll be accused of being sexist (among other things), or get a big fuck you from the feminists SJW's.

It's a no win situation, quickly disappearing in America.

I hold the door for everyone, the first SJW to give me shit over it will get hell from my wife.

 

[blue32]

I hold the door for everyone, the first SJW to give me shit over it will get hell from my wife.

Roger that!

 

[Strenuus]

I teach my son to hold doors/pull out chairs for ladies, look people in the eye when speaking and shaking hands etc. Chivalry will not die on my watch.

Good stuff man. Thank you for doing that.

I hold open doors for everyone. I'll let 5-6 people in if need be. I got time. It's literally 15 seconds. If people have 2 items in line and I got a bunch, by all means. It goes on and on from there. I know no other way but to be chivalrous. And I'm damn proud of that.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Good stuff man. Thank you for doing that.

I hold open doors for everyone. I'll let 5-6 people in if need be. I got time. It's literally 15 seconds. If people have 2 items in line and I got a bunch, by all means. It goes on and on from there. I know no other way but to be chivalrous. And I'm damn proud of that.

The thing that people really seem surprised by is when I am getting a grocery cart and someone else walks up I give them the one I was taking and take another for myself.

I always tell them I'm not responsible if it doesn't steer right.

I feel like it is a selfish act somewhat because it makes me feel good but then I realize I feel good because my grandma would be happy.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

This brings up another issue. I'm getting old (42)

When I was little every 60 or 70 year old seemed courteous to me.

I've noticed people in that age now are more often total assholes. I realized that new old people are from a different generation than the ones I grew up knowing.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I take candy from babies.

But I do it politely.

 

[riverman]

This brings up another issue. I'm getting old (42)

When I was little every 60 or 70 year old seemed courteous to me.

I've noticed people in that age now are more often total assholes. I realized that new old people are from a different generation than the ones I grew up knowing.

or older folks treat little kids better than they do 42 year olds

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

My dad never laid a finger on my brothers and I but he always made it exceedingly clear that if we did not conduct ourselves as gentlemen, he would kick our asses from one end of town to the other. And there was no doubt he would have. My father was the ultimate gentlemen (he was one of the few men I ever knew who always (without fail) stood when a lady first entered the room) and I was fortunate enough to observe the respect it earned him. That said, it has become an increasingly rude world (especially on the road) and I struggle mightily to maintain some level of equanimity when dealing with a regular parade of rude assholes. It helps that I am a strong believer in karma......Too, I've been gratified to see that a graceful response by me to a rude asshole often penetrates their thick skulls and makes them realize that they were indeed unnecessarily rude. At least then I can walk away with the hope that they have learned something positive. And if not, I stayed true to myself and they are the losers. I've also learned that by being patient and polite when dealing with people on the phone (no matter how long I've been on hold (yes, I'm talking about you Comcast) more often than not it gets me better service, if for no other reason than they have been regularly abused by rude customers and my approach is a breath of fresh air. I guess it all depends on what you want out of others...and life in general. Rude people may win the minor battles but they always....always...lose the war. It sucks to be them......

 

[riverman]

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

or older folks treat little kids better than they do 42 year olds

Older folks treated me better when I was 22.

 

[riverman]

Older folks treated me better when I was 22.

In my career...the elderly were about the kindest people I encountered day to day...but I live in a rural community. I think the demographic you live in skews the opinion a bit.....a senior New Yorker compared to a senior Midwestern farmer....people in urban communities are often snarkier than rural folks in my experience but UCD said it well.....karma's a bitch.

 

[dviss1]

You start opening doors for ladies, and letting them go first, you'll be accused of being sexist (among other things), or get a big fuck you from the feminists SJW's.

It's a no win situation, quickly disappearing in America.

Meh. That literally never happens and has never happened.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Meh. That literally never happens and has never happened.

Probably has, but more of an outlier or exception to the rule.

 

[dviss1]

Probably has, but more of an outlier or exception to the rule.

I mean to me personally. I always get props for teaching my son this way and we never get negativity.

 

[blue32]

Meh. That literally never happens and has never happened.

OK, well since you said it, it MUST be true.

Kind of like that Christian setting that Muslim on fire eh?

Don't make statements like that if you can't back it up bruh.

 

[dviss1]

OK, well since you said it, it MUST be true.

Kind of like that Christian setting that Muslim on fire eh?

Don't make statements like that if you can't back it up bruh.

I know you can read. You've demonstrated that skill before....

I mean to me personally. I always get props for teaching my son this way and we never get negativity.