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Let's bring the majority of what Tumblr talks about here to S2.

The following is a great video of a debate between Jim Norton and Jezebel.com blogger Lindy West. It's a pretty good watch whether you consider yourself anti-rape joke or are Daniel Tosh.

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What do you all think? Do rape jokes and the casual use of the word "rape" (especially in sports and/or videogames) contribute to what many people call "rape culture"?
 
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I find it ok as long as it's not in the middle of the rape. That's just rude
 
Personally, I don't find it funny or appropriate. If there are websites you can find content to enjoy that aren't here, I'm ok with that.
 
I think rape jokes are funny, but I've never been raped. That could potentially change my outlook.
 
jokes are just fine depending on the audience

tell rape jokes around women at your own risk
 
donkiez said:
I think rape jokes are funny, but I've never been raped. That could potentially change my outlook.
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This is how I felt for a long time. Same with racist jokes. I didn't get raped and I'm still white. So what changed? I don't know. I think I started paying attention to what people were talking about.
 
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hoojacks said:
This is how I felt for a long time. Same with racist jokes. I didn't get raped and I'm still white. So what changed? I don't know. I think I started paying attention to what people were talking about.
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Im white and I think white jokes are funny. Actually most jokes that make fun of a sterotype are funny IMO. Rape doesn't make fun of a sterotype, so I don't put them in the same category. I would tell black jokes to my black friends but I would never tell a rape joke to a raped friend.
 
The first amendment is there to protect speech that offends people. Not much need for the first amendment if nobody ever says anything offensive.

As I think about it, rape jokes could help bring attention to some bad shit that happens. For instance, what if the rest of the world started telling rape jokes involving Afghan men and little boys?

...

Go Blazers
 
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hoojacks said:
This is how I felt for a long time. Same with racist jokes. I didn't get raped and I'm still white. So what changed? I don't know. I think I started paying attention to what people were talking about.
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Huh? Just because you're white doesn't mean you've encountered racism
 
With whom?

Men who find rape funny?

Rapists?

Women who have been raped?

Women who have not been raped but organize their lives (as most women do) around supposedly reducing the possibility?

Women who are threatened with rape when they post online something a man doesn't like, even when it's not remotely conneced with rape (and nearly every female blogger or online poster has received rape threats)?

Men who have been raped and told they are "unmanly" as a result?
 
I think when you throw words like that around it desensitizes us. I hear sports announcers routinely use that word during broadcasts like whatever play happened was somehow equal to this horrendous act of violence against an innocent person. It makes me sick to my stomach. And I just don't think there's anything funny about rape so, to me, there's no such thing as a rape "joke".
 
Spud147 said:
I think when you throw words like that around it desensitizes us. I hear sports announcers routinely use that word during broadcasts like whatever play happened was somehow equal to this horrendous act of violence against an innocent person. It makes me sick to my stomach. And I just don't think there's anything funny about rape so, to me, there's no such thing as a rape "joke".
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You hear sports broadcasters use the word "rape" routinely? In describing a play that happened? I have never once heard the word used, and I'm certain if it was used on TNT, ABC, NBC, CBS, ESPN that the person who used the word would be suspended or lose their job.
 
Depends on who is making the joke. If it's a professional comedian I'm fine with it, as long as it's either funny, or at least really making a valid attempt at humor. I have found jokes about almost every subject funny at some point, and you go see a pro because they are creative and can approach subjects that might be taboo for the rest of society. I pretty much agreed with everything Jim Norton said in that clip. By the way, I would walk out on an act if they were making jokes that weren't funny, regardless of if it's about rape or Easter egg hunts. Difference is, the bar is much higher for a joke about rape to actually be funny. But the point of what Jim was saying was that if you don't like something, leave, blog about it, tell your friends, just don't attack the financial strings of the art form. Because these are artists, and they need to be able to try different material, sometimes edgy material, to see if they can pull off certain types of jokes.
 
I haven't checked the newspaper funnies lately, but I doubt they've changed--A few years ago I counted, and more than half of the jokes were about violence toward men. It was never toward women.

If men make rape jokes (I've never heard any), their feelings are compensating for the daily intimidation drilled into them by 1) the violence which the American system encourages against men, and 2) the legal system's overuse of the word "rape" to include a) mere touching, or b) voluntary sex instigated by horny 16-17 year old girls.
 
Nate4Prez said:
You hear sports broadcasters use the word "rape" routinely? In describing a play that happened? I have never once heard the word used, and I'm certain if it was used on TNT, ABC, NBC, CBS, ESPN that the person who used the word would be suspended or lose their job.
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And I have heard it more than once and there were no repercussions or even a media uproar about it. Maybe I'm just more sensitive to it and you didn't notice.
 
As long as it's funny. Most comedians make their living commenting on/making jokes of social taboos. If the audience is offended that's too bad but they have no right to not be.

Little Jimmy is a smart guy and a good off-the-cuff comedian. I actually don't like stand-up very much but he is hilarious on O&A.
 
Why rape and not plunder and pillage? Why aren't there any plunder and pillage jokes? I could see plundering and pillaging being much funnier. It really doesn't seem fair, rape, pillage and plunder have been together since... since people have been raping, plundering and pillaging. Comedians should give up the rape and just focus on the plunder and pillage.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Why rape and not plunder and pillage? Why aren't there any plunder and pillage jokes? I could see plundering and pillaging being much funnier. It really doesn't seem fair, rape, pillage and plunder have been together since... since people have been raping, plundering and pillaging. Comedians should give up the rape and just focus on the plunder and pillage.
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What exactly is the difference between pillaging and plundering?
 
This one is good:

[video=youtube;b4hNaFkbZYU]
 
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