Are We Safer?

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Are we safer in America due to our involvement in Iraq & Afghanistan? Are we less safe? Indifferent?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

no we are not

if anything, all the kids and moms we killed will breed a brand new generation of people who would love to kill OUR kids and moms

 

[julius]

that's a loaded question. Are we safer if we kill off all the criminals in the jails?

probably.

is it the right thing to do?

probably not.

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[BLAZER PROPHET]

It seems to me that terrorism is not a nation, religion or people. Therefore, to invade or war against either of those 3 is generally useless. As such, the involvements in Iraq & Afghanistan have not made us safer. Terrorism are groups of people that can be found anywhere across the globe and we are to take the fight to them where ever we find them.

 

[Natebishop3]

Here is my thinking on the matter... depending on whether you think the threat of terrorism was actually as great as it was made out to be, I think the only way you can effectively fight terrorist groups is to take the fight to them. Building up your defenses and attempting to "secure" the nation is nice, but virtually impossible to do. If someone wants to blow up a building or a plane or a train, they will always find a way to do it. Therefor you have to be proactive and try to find them before they find you.

With that said, I felt one reason why we went into Afghanistan and Iraq was because a war in the heart of the Middle East would draw the terrorist groups to our soldiers like a moth to a flame. This would give our military an opportunity to find and either capture or kill Al Qaeda and other groups on their own home turf. While I find it tragic that the people of Iraq and Afghanistan have had to suffer through the last eight plus years of war, I would rather the war be fought there and not here, and though I am deeply saddened by every death of our men and women over there, I would rather it be our trained soldiers in harms way and not the millions of Americans in cities like New York, Los Angeles, etc.

 

[maxiep]

Good question to an unknowable "what if?". It's asymmetical warfare, so our ICBM's don't do much good when faced with a retarded guy with some C4 in his shoes or in his underwear.

I think attacking Afghanistan has almost certainly made us safer, because it put the command structure of Al Qaeda on the run. Iraq is a tougher proposition. It acted in many ways as a moth to a flame, bringing in people who wanted to find the Jihad and allowing us to send them to Paradise. It was also quite costly, in terms of blood and treasure, however.

The issue with this war is that so much of it we don't (and shouldn't) know about it. We don't know how many terrorists have been assassinated by our agents in places all over the globe. We don't know how many attacks on our country have been stopped. So, it's tough to gauge the effectiveness of the War on Terror and the impact of the attack on Iraq and Afghanistan. I do think that those who use those attacks as an excuse to wage Jihad on us were going to find some excuse to do so anyway.

So my final answer is, I don't really know for certain, but I think it has.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Here is my thinking on the matter... depending on whether you think the threat of terrorism was actually as great as it was made out to be, I think the only way you can effectively fight terrorist groups is to take the fight to them. Building up your defenses and attempting to "secure" the nation is nice, but virtually impossible to do. If someone wants to blow up a building or a plane or a train, they will always find a way to do it. Therefor you have to be proactive and try to find them before they find you.

With that said, I felt one reason why we went into Afghanistan and Iraq was because a war in the heart of the Middle East would draw the terrorist groups to our soldiers like a moth to a flame. This would give our military an opportunity to find and either capture or kill Al Qaeda and other groups on their own home turf. While I find it tragic that the people of Iraq and Afghanistan have had to suffer through the last eight plus years of war, I would rather the war be fought there and not here, and though I am deeply saddened by every death of our men and women over there, I would rather it be our trained soldiers in harms way and not the millions of Americans in cities like New York, Los Angeles, etc.

I wholeheartedly agree with the first paragraph, but question the Afghanistan part.