Are we truly a divided nation?

[magnifier661]

Which is all neat and what not, but not what my "argument" was.

You questioned if the nation is divided. It is divided. The politicians and the people are divided. You can't be this dense.

 

[julius]

You questioned if the nation is divided. It is divided. The politicians and the people are divided. You can't be this dense.

Are you willing to work with a democrat or someone who has a different idea than you?

Would you disown a friend of yours or a family member who dared to agree with someone on the opposite side (like how you brought up Carly Fiorina and her *gasp* kind words about Hillary)?

 

[oldfisherman]

Of course our nation is as divided as ever. The only thing that has changed is the issues that divide us.

It used to be race divided us. Now the division is between the forum moderators and the rest of us that know what we are talking about.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

We can't be divided, most Americans aren't good at math.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Now the division is between the forum moderators and the rest of us that know what we are talking about.

We don't need to know what we're talking about, we just edit or ban the people we disagree with.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I've watched less than 5 minutes of Fox News since Obama was elected. It was entertaining before that election. Msnbc was too, now I watch neither.

Not worth the negativity.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

We are certainly divided by the way.

 

[magnifier661]

Are you willing to work with a democrat or someone who has a different idea than you?

Would you disown a friend of yours or a family member who dared to agree with someone on the opposite side (like how you brought up Carly Fiorina and her *gasp* kind words about Hillary)?

I am not running for any political office, but if I did and get elected, I would take an oath to defend the constitution and be the voice who elected me. That is what will unite the nation.

 

[MarAzul]

We are, and I think that's exactly how they want it. Corporations want us talking about stupid shit so we just ignore them passing legislation that fucks us over.

Corporations do not vote for anyone. But people vote for politicians over and over again even when they do not vote in their interest. The entire leadership of Congress on both sides of the isle, should be voted out as well and your own slick talking representatives.

 

[MarAzul]

progressive change.

Well, yeah see right here where we get into difficulty. You want change and then you label it progressive. Geez, I like this country pretty damn well when it is run for the people by the people as it is suppose to do do under the Constitution. Change that is not my idea of progress. Taxing the other guy more is even when the majority approves is totally disengenous and completely disregards the founding concept as well as the spirit in the Creation of the Constitution.

 

[e_blazer]

To me the whole bi-partisan structure of government is a black eye to progressive change. It's just like the Orange and Green cold war in Ireland between the Catholics and Protestants...that shit fuels stalemates that go on for hundreds of years. The NBA got rid of division titles..let's think about getting rid of the 2 party system...just require independent status..Hi, I'm Mike, I'm running for president, I'm from Michigan and this is what I think...that's enough for me to know. Same with the legislative branch. Get rid of the isle that divides the floor. There shouldn't be two sides of the aisle to begin with

So, if only people who agreed with your view of government were allowed to be elected, things would go more the way you want? Sounds reasonable.

 

[riverman]

So, if only people who agreed with your view of government were allowed to be elected, things would go more the way you want? Sounds reasonable.

I'd fix all this shit

 

[riverman]

Well, yeah see right here where we get into difficulty. You want change and then you label it progressive. Geez, I like this country pretty damn well when it is run for the people by the people as it is suppose to do do under the Constitution. Change that is not my idea of progress. Taxing the other guy more is even when the majority approves is totally disengenous and completely disregards the founding concept as well as the spirit in the Creation of the Constitution.

I think you'd probably hate living in the colonies in the 1700s honestly. Everything infested with bed bugs and lice. People didn't bathe. No anti biotics. No sewage systems. Yuck dude

 

[e_blazer]

I'd fix all this shit

I have no doubt that you are the person for the job.

 

[MarAzul]

Bu

I think you'd probably hate living in the colonies in the 1700s honestly. Everything infested with bed bugs and lice. People didn't bathe. No anti biotics. No sewage systems. Yuck dude

But then, I don't.

 

[riverman]

Bu

But then, I don't.

progress is great eh?

 

[julius]

I am not running for any political office, but if I did and get elected, I would take an oath to defend the constitution and be the voice who elected me. That is what will unite the nation.

I guess I now see why you want Donald Trump to be your "voice".


great choice

 

[magnifier661]

I guess I now see why you want Donald Trump to be your "voice".


great choice

So what the fuck are you getting at? Your OP was just trying to bait me to talk about Trump? I told you what I believe can unite us. I don't give a flying fuck that you don't! Lol

My meme was perfect for you. I have a very detailed reason why I believe we are divided, then your response are baits and digs? Oh please

Do you think the nation is divided? Do you think legislation is in agreement with the people of America?

 

[julius]

So what the fuck are you getting at? Your OP was just trying to bait me to talk about Trump? I told you what I believe can unite us. I don't give a flying fuck that you don't! Lol

My meme was perfect for you. I have a very detailed reason why I believe we are divided, then your response are baits and digs? Oh please

My post had nothing to do with Donald, nothing to do with you, but had to do with how people on TV/government are telling us that Obama divides us, but have nothing to show for other than the fact they said it. And then the people who hear it, repeat it and then cite stuff pulled out of their asses.

Do you think the nation is divided? Do you think legislation is in agreement with the people of America?

Did you even read my post? I pretty much said that the majority of us aren't divided, it's those in the government who have created their own division. The Republicans have refused to work with Obama and have done a masterful job of blaming him and conning rubes into believing it was his own doing.

 

[magnifier661]

Here's @Rastapopoulos question...

Do you like pizza? - rasta

Yes - mags

Only a trump fan would like soda - rasta

 

[magnifier661]

You totally and utterly missed the whole entire fucking pointof my post.

Do you think the country is divided? Simple yes or no answer will suffice...

 

[MarAzul]

progress is great eh?

No wonder everything is so difficult. I think we see entirely different images when prompted by even simple words. When you say "Progressive", I think ignore the Constitution. When I say
Constitution, you think, well life sucked in the 1700s so we never needed the Constitution.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

We are easily a divided country. People don't make personal connections anymore and have adopted a "if you're not with me, you're against me" mentality.

It's sad, we can't discuss anything without finger pointing and playing the blame game. Every one has an opinion and no solutions.

 

[barfo]

Change that is not my idea of progress.

That's kind of fascinating.

How can you have progress without change, exactly?

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

That's kind of fascinating.

How can you have progress without change, exactly?

barfo

You have a point there

 

[MarAzul]

That's kind of fascinating.

How can you have progress without change, exactly?

barfo

Well you need to understand what it is you seek. Change is not necessarily progression. For instance, most of you Progressives seek to sock it to the someone else with higher taxes.
That would be change but not progression since we had much higher taxes before. What you seek is actual regression, to the good old days of snatch it all.

 

[Denny Crane]

Democrats ran Joe Lieberman for VP. Raved about him. Four years later, they chased him out of the party. Too conservative.

Republicans have chased out a few RINOs, but several do remain. McCain, for one.

The parties have distanced themselves from one another to provide some sort of distinction. The saying goes, why vote for a conservative democrat when you can vote for a real republican.

They're both owned by special interests, but nobody is surprised by who those interests are. The voter can take that into account and vote accordingly.

Unfortunately, both parties are wrong on about half the issues. Otherwise Gore would have won huge without resorting to releasing W's DUI a couple days before the election. Or this election wouldnt be close (ObamaFatigue, Clinton fatigue).

Republicans do have the edge on pocketbook issues, or this wonderful summer of recovery v6.0 would assure a democratic landslide.

The electorate does seem to be engaged way earlier than in prior elections.

Are we divided? General public? Not that much, but many are too stupid to consider voting for the conservative democrat or the liberal republican because of the letter D/R next to their name.

 

[riverman]

We are easily a divided country. People don't make personal connections anymore and have adopted a "if you're not with me, you're against me" mentality.

It's sad, we can't discuss anything without finger pointing and playing the blame game. Every one has an opinion and no solutions.

Just yesterday I posted a group hug suggestion..I'm doing my part damnit!

 

[riverman]

Democrats ran Joe Lieberman for VP. Raved about him. Four years later, they chased him out of the party. Too conservative.

Republicans have chased out a few RINOs, but several do remain. McCain, for one.

The parties have distanced themselves from one another to provide some sort of distinction. The saying goes, why vote for a conservative democrat when you can vote for a real republican.

They're both owned by special interests, but nobody is surprised by who those interests are. The voter can take that into account and vote accordingly.

Unfortunately, both parties are wrong on about half the issues. Otherwise Gore would have won huge without resorting to releasing W's DUI a couple days before the election. Or this election wouldnt be close (ObamaFatigue, Clinton fatigue).

Republicans do have the edge on pocketbook issues, or this wonderful summer of recovery v6.0 would assure a democratic landslide.

The electorate does seem to be engaged way earlier than in prior elections.

Are we divided? General public? Not that much, but many are too stupid to consider voting for the conservative democrat or the liberal republican because of the letter D/R next to their name.

D for Donald and R for Rick?

 

[MarAzul]

conservative democrat

There use to be quite a few of those, but where is today's crop? I can't imagine the Democrats running one now, but no matter, Can't think of one. Perhaps Joe Biden but
some other label comes to mind before conservative.