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There's so much talk for and against Hedo right now. So, let's get this straight. I can't figure out of the majority of us want or don't want him. So let me know.
 
Yes. Our #1 problem was perimeter defense against quick point guards - but there is no option available in FA that appeals to me that solves this problem. I am not a fan of Miller on this team.

Given this - and my belief that we can upgrade via trade later (or in the trade deadline) with our expiring contracts/glut of small-forwards and stashed prospects - he does seem like the best option to pursue in free-agency. I do hope he is not the last move the organization makes this year, however.
 
No, he'll eat this valuable cap space we've been saving for and is not THAT much of an upgrade, he's getting older while everyone is getting better. I'd rather give the minutes to Rudy/Webster/Batum
 
Yes, he is the best option available.

Batum was a deer in headlights during the playoffs he was the worst starter of any team playing. He needs to come along slower and Hedo will allow him to do that. I still love Batum's upside but now he can overtake Hedo's starting spot when he is a better player instead of being stuck there because we have no good options.

Hedo does address some of our PG problems with his unique skill set and will allow Bayless to ease into that role.

Hedo does have his weaknesses and he will start to decline. I was hoping the Bulls would resign Gordon and we could use our cap space to absorb Deng. But that didn't happen and adding Hedo for free is the best option we have.
 
Yes. He's one of the only available options right now that can take us to the next level in the immediate future.

With Hedo and an improved LA and Oden, we win 4-6 more games next year and make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs, maybe even WCF.
 
Yes. He's one of the only available options right now that can take us to the next level in the immediate future.

With Hedo and an improved LA and Oden, we win 4-6 more games next year and make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs, maybe even WCF.



I think there are going to be many fans who will be upset next year because of our win total. I have a feeling it will actually go down.

That being said, With Hedo and an improved Aldridge and Oden we will win in the playoffs.
 
I am on the fence.

On one hand, I want a faster, speedier, better perimeter defending PG that can drive/score.

But on the other hand, I realize (which sucks) Webster may never be what I hope he can be because of his foot, etc. And Outlaw most likely isn't our long term 3. Also, Batum is good but still a rookie-ish player that needs more development. (vanished in the play offs)

So then guys like "turkey glue" sound great, but he is getting old as well.

On the fence......still...


So Ricky Rubio, you can see, I'm not a hedo hater, and there's no need to do a "Gotcha" on me if we get him and he does great, because I support ALL Blazers 100%, but he's not a Blazer yet ;)
 
As I said yesterday . . . if the Blazers championship run revolves around the development of Greg Oden, then Turk is a good pick up.
 
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I don't think there's any way I can answer this without knowing more. How much are we paying him? How many years?

60/5yrs? Against.
50/5yrs? Against.
30/3yrs? For.
40/4 years? On the fence.
etc.
 
I don't think there's any way I can answer this without knowing more. How much are we paying him? How many years?

60/5yrs? Against.
50/5yrs? Against.
30/3yrs? For.
40/4 years? On the fence.
etc.

My guess is that it will be around 4 years for $32 million or 5 years for $38 million.
 
I am on the fence. I do like him, but 5 years is a bit too long for me. And after hearing that Ariza is available now, for a lot cheaper.. and I think he fits in better on our team age wise and needs... I think we should go after him.

BUT I do agree that Hedo will make LMA and Oden better.

Really hard call. Glad I don't have to make it.
 
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I think there are going to be many fans who will be upset next year because of our win total. I have a feeling it will actually go down.

That being said, With Hedo and an improved Aldridge and Oden we will win in the playoffs.

While that's possible, I don't see any reason for our win total to go down. I don't think we were playing over our heads last year, which would be one potential reason. Hedo's defense might not be ideal, but doubtful it could be worse than Outlaw's and probably better. Overall Hedo >> Outlaw. Bayless not on a short leash will likely play better than Sergio did last year. The rest of our young team should also improve. So long as we can make the minutes and chemistry work, I think we should be close to 60 wins. I'm hoping Hedo's minutes can be made to come soley from Outlaw (28mpg), and Frye (12mpg) rather than from Rudy & Batum -- for reasons of chemistry (Rudy) and development (Batum). That's 40 mpg right there. Give Hedo 32 mpg, and give some combination of the 8 mpg to Batum & Rudy.
 
I am on the fence about Hedo. I think he may be best available upgrade but that doesn't make him a great addition. 5 years for 10 million a year is too much, but Portland probably has no choice.

KP painted himself into a corner where it is now or never. Unfortunately for all concerned, now isn't all that great a time to make a move.

All things considered, I would rather have Artest then Hedo.

Ariza can go fuck himself.
 
I am on the fence about Hedo. I think he may be best available upgrade but that doesn't make him a great addition. 5 years for 10 million a year is too much, but Portland probably has no choice.

KP painted himself into a corner where it is now or never. Unfortunately for all concerned, now isn't all that great a time to make a move.

All things considered, I would rather have Artest then Hedo.

Ariza can go fuck himself.



I'd take Artest too, and I agree about Ariza, lol.

But I could see a personality conflict with the team with Artest on it...

that guy is crazy... :)
 
I think there are going to be many fans who will be upset next year because of our win total. I have a feeling it will actually go down.

That being said, With Hedo and an improved Aldridge and Oden we will win in the playoffs.

If we have an injury to a key player I could see that happening. We we're fortunate with very few injuries to key players last season.
 
How do I feel about Turkey Glue?

I believe glueing a turkey's anus shut is a cruel and barbaric practice that should be banned.
 
You guys are going to love what he brings to the team. He's able to guard a lot of guys (like Kobe) and give them trouble, when he needs to. He's clearly going to take pressure off of Roy, and Roy will be even better. In spite of his low PER, he's got a great bball IQ and he clearly makes his teammates better.

The downside is his age. I don't see him being this good for more than a year or two. He could turn out to be like Grant Hill though.
 
On the fence. I think he's a useful player, but not an impact player. Since Portland will likely have to pay as if he is one, that makes me a bit less enthused. In addition, he stands a very high chance of declining over the course of his contract (if it is a 4-5 year pact). So, I think he makes Portland better now but I also think he's likely to spend some amount of time as a salary albatross for Portland.

If he's the best option, then I'm for it...but I hope Pritchard can find a better way to use the cash.
 
I think there are going to be many fans who will be upset next year because of our win total. I have a feeling it will actually go down.

That being said, With Hedo and an improved Aldridge and Oden we will win in the playoffs.

Hey, we agree! With Hedo we're possibly taking a step backwards and maybe even losing whatever championship window we might have had. But we will make the playoffs.
 
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Simply....yes! The only asset it costs is green-backs, rather than players or picks!

He becomes (immediately) our second best player (behind Roy). He is a late-gamer who can take some of the pressure off Roy to be SUPER on every possession. I forsee a Rudy-Roy-Hedo-LA-GO lineup late in games - so the defense must ask....who do we guard????

It's an upgrade to our team. I hope it isn't the only one this summer.
 
I voted yes. Besides taking pressure off of Roy, he will be able to get the ball to Oden hopefully elevating his offense. Plus, he is an upgrade at a position that needed immediate upgrading. I think that with Turk, we do not really need to upgrade from Blake at this time. With four solid offensive threats (assuming Turk helps Odens offense), Blake does not hurt. Plus, Blake was efficient offensively. Blake would be the role player in the starting five, brings the ball up the court to conserve the energy of Roy/Turk. I think it can work well with Rudy getting most of the third guard minutes.
 
I get what people are saying about defense, but if we do the Blake/Outlaw for Hinrich deal, we help our perimeter defense tremendously. I'm much more concerned with a speedy point guard getting into the paint against us than a 2 or a 3 getting around Hedo.
 
I was on the fence. Then I studied further why Portland would be so interested in him. There were a lot of options available to the team I predict, yet they picked this. I think this in itself speaks volumes. For starters, I believe they're preferring to add a veteran with plenty of post season experience who can start for the next couple or three seasons until Batum becomes more complete. Then, that vet can be transitioned into a sixth-man role. Age, then, doesn't matter as much to me.

Turk isn't a fantastic defender, but he's clever and long enough to not be a liability either. In fact his defensive rating is surprisingly good. He's a reliable shooter, especially in pressure-packed moments. I think, most importantly, is what he can do for everyone else in the line up. Having another playmaker will take a lot of pressure off Brandon and take away a weakness for other teams to exploit in a Playoff series. If he can do for Greg what he did for Dwight, his acquisition is worth that alone!

As a SF his win% is 74% during the regular season and 54% during the playoffs. It's common for the win % to fall in the Playoffs. The only players playing SF in the Playoffs with a higher win % were Pierce (not available), James (not available), Anthony (not available), James Jones (not versatile enough), and Ariza. Now Trevor Ariza is someone I think would help Portland, but could get in the way of Batum's development, down the road. And, while he may be have a greater direct impact for the team, his overall impact I don't think would be greater than Turk's indirect impact, helping the team himself and others.

So, long story short. I'm onboard!
 
Do you want the team to get better? If yes, Hedo is much better than anyone we currently have playiung small forward.

Do you want Greg Oden to get better? If yes, Hedo will help Oden tremendously. He runs the pick-and-roll extremely well - far better than anyone on our roster. Greg Oden will become a much bigger offenseive threat with a 6'10" perimeter player who can actually get him the ball rolling to the basket. It's not just about his personal stats, it's the positive impact he has on his teammates that makes Hedo a good addition.

Is Hedo a superstar? No, he's not even an all-star. But, he's a great role player. Something this team needs.

BNM
 
If we have an injury to a key player I could see that happening. We we're fortunate with very few injuries to key players last season.

Oden was not 100% the entire season, our starting pg was hurt for awhile, and our starting SF going into the season did not play at all.
 
Simply....yes! The only asset it costs is green-backs, rather than players or picks!

He becomes (immediately) our second best player (behind Roy). He is a late-gamer who can take some of the pressure off Roy to be SUPER on every possession. I forsee a Rudy-Roy-Hedo-LA-GO lineup late in games - so the defense must ask....who do we guard????

It's an upgrade to our team. I hope it isn't the only one this summer.

HE WILL BE OUR 2ND BEST PLAYER????????!!!!!!!!!!!??????????? WHAT?
 
I'm one of the few here who is in the no (pun). Of course it hasn't happened yet and though he'd obviously be an immediate upgrade at the 3, I just don't like the idea of a 5 year deal for a 30 year old SF who isn't much of a defender. My Blazer hoop fantasies have them making better use of the capspace... JChildress or a PG upgrade would be preferred.

STOMP
 
I'm gonna vote yes, but I reserve the right to admit that I was an idiot if it works out badly.

barfo
 

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