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I would still rather a lifetime ban, BUT it would get him (hopefully) out of the news for a while...
 
Wow, did y'all notice the poll results?


Do you think Rodriguez deserves a lifetime ban from baseball?

No. He doesn't deserve a harsher punishment than any other player involved in the case.
33.0%


Yes. If the evidence is strong enough, Rodriguez doesn't deserve to play again.
67.0%



Total votes: 3,736
 
yankeesince59 said:
Wow, did y'all notice the poll results?


Do you think Rodriguez deserves a lifetime ban from baseball?

No. He doesn't deserve a harsher punishment than any other player involved in the case.
33.0%


Yes. If the evidence is strong enough, Rodriguez doesn't deserve to play again.
67.0%



Total votes: 3,736
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And it's only going to get worse once the evidence is released because as it been said before "No one is bigger than the game"!
 
I don't consider bleacherreport to be a credible source.

But USA Today Is reporting the decision is made and will be announced this weekend.

ARod will appeal and his arbitration hearing will be after the season.

It sounds like ARod won't win. He's done.
 
I think he realizes there's no choice but to take the deal for the rest of this season and next season. If Selig hits him with the lifetime ban using the best interest of the game commissioner clause he's screwed.
 
I don't think there is a deal. ARod hopes there is one, though.
 
If he has any brain cells left he should take the remainder of the season and the 162 games next year if it's still on the table. Otherwise he's going out of life and I now think it will stick.
 
Why does baseball want to fifer. Him this deal?

They can make the lifetime ban stick. If not, their downside is the 162 games of pay he'll get.
 
Denny Crane said:
Why does baseball want to fifer. Him this deal?

They can make the lifetime ban stick. If not, their downside is the 162 games of pay he'll get.
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From what I'm reading they want him gone for life. The Yankees certainly aren't going to complain.
 
It sends a good message if they try. Even if they lose.

Tho I'm not sure why to ban anything in the first place.

Training, nutrition, workouts, medicine, surgeries, etc., all benefit today's players over yesterday's... Guys still have to pitch, hit, catch, and throw the ball.
 
Steroids date back further than people realize. The football players in the 70s were all doing them.
 
...this is a line drawn in the sand. Yes, nutrition, medicine, etc., are available but they are regulated and legal. The manner in which athletes use PEDS is not and it circumvents the rules and laws which govern baseball and our society. And yes, steroids have been around awhile, but that doesn't make it right to allow the problem any longer.
...like I said, this is a line drawn in the sand and hopefully, it will spill over and benefit other sports' testing programs too. I think what Selig and MLB are doing is morally the right thing to do.
 
Messiah717 said:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ace-lifetime-ban-if-he-doesnt-settle-with-mlb

Hopefully he takes a deal and gets this over with.
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update posted this morning has a quote from Buck Showalter... "... 'If Bud lets them get away with that, they're under the luxury tax," Showalter told USA TODAY Sports. "If they can reset, they can spend again and I guarantee you in two years Matt Wieters is in New York.'"

it sounds like Showalter doesn't want A-Rod to be suspended because it would benefit the Yankees...
 
What's Bud letting the Yankees get away with? What does Buck suggest? Suspend Arod with full pay?
 
Messiah717 said:
What's Bud letting the Yankees get away with? What does Buck suggest? Suspend Arod with full pay?
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...this is what kills me about Buck as well as other people. They genuinely think there is some sort of behind scenes conspiracy involving the Yanx, MLB, and Biogenisis. Selig and MLB have worked to hard on this to jeopardize the whole thing by doing something that could sabotage what they are attempting to do. That would be very foolish. The Yanx are simply on the sidelines here.
...if ARod is suspended, regardless of the length of the suspension, yes, the Yanx benefit from it, AFTER the fact. But to suggest that the Yanx are co-conspirators is just silly and without basis.

...really surprised Buck would act that way...he's generally well spoken and not outspoken....f' him.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...this is what kills me about Buck as well as other people. They genuinely think there is some sort of behind scenes conspiracy involving the Yanx, MLB, and Biogenisis. Selig and MLB have worked to hard on this to jeopardize the whole thing by doing something that could sabotage what they are attempting to do. That would be very foolish. The Yanx are simply on the sidelines here.
...if ARod is suspended, regardless of the length of the suspension, yes, the Yanx benefit from it, AFTER the fact. But to suggest that the Yanx are co-conspirators is just silly and without basis.

...really surprised Buck would act that way...he's generally well spoken and not outspoken....f' him.
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He didn't seem to care when Arod was blasting homers for him in Texas. Yes, the money coming off the books is certainly very good for the yankees but there's no conspiracy surrounding it. Buck's comments are basically since this is a huge Yankee contract don't punish Arod severely. I'm sure Buck has heard from the Commish about his comments already. When you have a sport trying to clean itself up you don't need comments like this from people who should know better.
 
^^^ I agree 100%...and like I said, I'm kinda surprised that Buck would spout off like that.
 
Buck is a great manager, but a buffoon at times.

I've already said that I think MLB would love for NY to be rid of Arod's contract just as much as the Yankees, because the Yankees are being cheap thanks to Arod and Tex, stopping them from getting in on the new big FA, as long as those two and CC are on the books NY will not be looking at any big FA for a while and that's not good for baseball, so Buck is not that far off IMO, he's kind of speaking the truth, both MLB and NY want that deal scratched for both reasons, PED and FA.
 
What Buck has to realize and I'm sure he does is that what's going on is terrible for the sport. You have an former NL MVP disgraced and suspended. You have a multiple time AL MVP disgraced and about to be suspended. You have other pretty big named players who are also going to be suspended which will have an effect on pennant races. Then you have the cloud of suspicion over others that just gets thicker and thicker because anyway with half a brain knows other players have been using as well.
 
Messiah717 said:
What Buck has to realize and I'm sure he does is that what's going on is terrible for the sport. You have an former NL MVP disgraced and suspended. You have a multiple time AL MVP disgraced and about to be suspended. You have other pretty big named players who are also going to be suspended which will have an effect on pennant races. Then you have the cloud of suspicion over others that just gets thicker and thicker because anyway with half a brain knows other players have been using as well.
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Bingo Bango, I want to see the game clean, as a buddy of mine stated when this stuff started breaking "if you're major league you're suspect. Pennant race or no pennant race if they need to be punished get it done MLB instead of maybes, perhaps, possibly, and deals.
 
This won't clean up the game, because the bottom line is there is too much money involved, take a nobody player making dimes and tell him he can be rich taking PED's, but may get busted and be disgraced, but he'll walk away rich, what will he do? and there are lots of ways to get around the limited testing being done.

Buck himself probably has cheaters on his roster, that's the sad truth.
 
RustySpan said:
This won't clean up the game, because the bottom line is there is too much money involved, take a nobody player making dimes and tell him he can be rich taking PED's, but may get busted and be disgraced, but he'll walk away rich, what will he do? and there are lots of ways to get around the limited testing being done.

Buck himself probably has cheaters on his roster, that's the sad truth.
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unfortunately, you are probably right about it not cleaning the game... but it might be a discouragement... what will help clean the game is in addition to suspensions is if the teams put clauses into the contracts making them null and void if proven to be a PED user... and even more, the team should be subject to recovering salary paid out to the given player... that would be a big help...
 
^^^yup, you have to start somewhere and draw the line. And I'm not sure how it could be worded or stipulated, but I'm sure MLB and the MLBPA will explore having language in future contracts to protect the integrity of the game...it's coming.
 
yankeesince59 said:
^^^yup, you have to start somewhere and draw the line. And I'm not sure how it could be worded or stipulated, but I'm sure MLB and the MLBPA will explore having language in future contracts to protect the integrity of the game...it's coming.
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I surely hope so!
 
Messiah717 said:
What's Bud letting the Yankees get away with? What does Buck suggest? Suspend Arod with full pay?
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That's pretty much what Stephen A. Smith stated, that if the Yankees were stupid enough to offer the contract they should be made to pay up. Bunko I say!
 
Suspend him and pay him. That will really teach him a lesson. These people are so stupid.
 
Word is the talks have stalled on the length of the suspension arod is willing to accept and on arod wanting to cash in on his contract as much as possible. That's nice. Here is my question, why is this a negotiation at all? If MLB has the hammer to drop why don't they say Alex you will accept 2 years suspension without pay or you will be faced with a lifetime ban and collect nothing. End of story. The fact that these talks are ongoing has me wondering how much MLB is bluffing with just how much evidence they have and how much they really believe a lifetime ban will fly.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
That's pretty much what Stephen A. Smith stated, that if the Yankees were stupid enough to offer the contract they should be made to pay up. Bunko I say!
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If it was that loud mouths money, I am sure he would feel differently.
 
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