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baseball needs to show some balls, this guy has lost touch with reality:tsktsk:!
 
Baseball was very late in instituting their policy of suspensions for PED use. If it had been done years prior these guys would've been failing tests left and right. Now you have these synthetic lab creations available with the ability to mask then during testing. You would think more stringent testing is necessary as well but like I said these labs seem to always be ahead of the game.
 
Why just him? why not the entire MLB? NFL? NHL? they're just about all juicing or were juicing IMO.
 
RustySpan said:
Why just him? why not the entire MLB? NFL? NHL? they're just about all juicing or were juicing IMO.
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Hell.... they even have had NASCAR drivers suspended for it... and I have heard the occasional story in the NFL, but I've NEVER heard anything out of the NHL... that is news to me...
 
If there's more money to be made by being a better athlete people will cheat to get that money, it's just that simple, people are being naive thinking the NHL is clean, of course they're taking PED's as well.
 
RustySpan said:
If there's more money to be made by being a better athlete people will cheat to get that money, it's just that simple, people are being naive thinking the NHL is clean, of course they're taking PED's as well.
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where is there a link or story though... I'm not saying they didn't, just haven't heard it...
 
I will never understand the Arod scrutiny. Why should he be banned for life with so many other guys actually having failed tests still in the game? How about Braun - gets off on a technicality and has the set to keep his hand in the jar in the same year.

MLB basked in the glory of the steroid era, they have themselves to blame. I want a poster of Selig with Sosa and Macguire. Everybody was happy to turn a blind eye then.
 
I agree... Braun et. al should be banned for life as well... this going after A-Rod alone is unfair... BUT... none of the others make as much as A-Rod... just saying...
 
Contract or money should have zero to do with it. Meanwhile, Big Papi, the darling of MLB who bulked up and made a career for himself in the heart of the per era after leaving Minny, is being shooed in to the HOF!? What an absolute joke.
 
Should... but it doesn't... that is why they are going after him... and there is NO, ZERO, ZIP doubt that Shrek (Ortiz) juiced....
 
I don't think they will likely ban him but one variable out there for him would be if the stories from awhile back are true in regards to him buying his records/evidence from someone at the company. They could push that aspect on top of the drugs and say he was trying to hinder the investigation etc. and use the best interests of baseball clause on him for that. Somewhat suspect that wouldn't hold up but perhaps that is their angle if they want to nail him for a long time, get a settlement or run him from the game. Otherwise, I agree its not going to fly for them to target him and or Braun in a harsher manner than the others involved. Sounds pretty clear that Weiner is laying the groundwork that the union isn't going to be there to bail these guys out and if that is his intent, he knows the evidence is pretty strong I would think.
 
CyRivera said:
I don't think they will likely ban him but one variable out there for him would be if the stories from awhile back are true in regards to him buying his records/evidence from someone at the company. They could push that aspect on top of the drugs and say he was trying to hinder the investigation etc. and use the best interests of baseball clause on him for that. Somewhat suspect that wouldn't hold up but perhaps that is their angle if they want to nail him for a long time, get a settlement or run him from the game. Otherwise, I agree its not going to fly for them to target him and or Braun in a harsher manner than the others involved. Sounds pretty clear that Weiner is laying the groundwork that the union isn't going to be there to bail these guys out and if that is his intent, he knows the evidence is pretty strong I would think.
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Hey Cy welcome aboard. Nice to see another of the old ESPN crowd join us. Look I know its written into his contract but some how, some way the Yankees should be able to void those HR incentives that allows him to collect an additional 30M. I mean he already admitted his 3 year use while with the Rangers so his HR total is already tainted. Yes I know that the contract was worked up after the admission but, if he's suspended for suspicion of PEDs then those incentives should DEFINITELY be voided.
 
It's Arod and it's New York. Braun plays in Milwaukee and is not as big a figure. Fair or unfair Arod is the poster boy for this entire thing.
 
Messiah717 said:
It's Arod and it's New York. Braun plays in Milwaukee and is not as big a figure. Fair or unfair Arod is the poster boy for this entire thing.
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For the media and fans yes, but I bet MLB wants to nail Braun as much if not more than ARod.
 
Rick2583 said:
Hey Cy welcome aboard. Nice to see another of the old ESPN crowd join us. Look I know its written into his contract but some how, some way the Yankees should be able to void those HR incentives that allows him to collect an additional 30M. I mean he already admitted his 3 year use while with the Rangers so his HR total is already tainted. Yes I know that the contract was worked up after the admission but, if he's suspended for suspicion of PEDs then those incentives should DEFINITELY be voided.
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Thanks Rick, good to be here. I'm all for the Yankees getting out of whatever they can with Alex. I suspect that once his suspension is over (if he isn't banned), the Yankees will have to grin and bear it with his contract. Its a shame of course but they certainly have their share of blame in that one.
 
CyRivera said:
Thanks Rick, good to be here. I'm all for the Yankees getting out of whatever they can with Alex. I suspect that once his suspension is over (if he isn't banned), the Yankees will have to grin and bear it with his contract. Its a shame of course but they certainly have their share of blame in that one.
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Do you think he'll have anything left in the tank after a suspension like that???
 
Hammerojustice said:
Do you think he'll have anything left in the tank after a suspension like that???
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Nah, I don't think he has much left in the tank either way at this point. Age, general wear and tear, major hip surgeries etc., no peds (well, maybe no peds) and his mental state--I just can't see much from him.

These guys, I tell ya. Watching the Mariano celebration the other night made me think of folk like ARod, Clemens and Bonds etc. that will never know anything like that despite their careers. Personality issues with that group perhaps prevent that anyway but its quite the contrast how one all time great is received vs. those that have cost themselves anything remotely close to respect.
 
CyRivera said:
Nah, I don't think he has much left in the tank either way at this point. Age, general wear and tear, major hip surgeries etc., no peds (well, maybe no peds) and his mental state--I just can't see much from him.

These guys, I tell ya. Watching the Mariano celebration the other night made me think of folk like ARod, Clemens and Bonds etc. that will never know anything like that despite their careers. Personality issues with that group perhaps prevent that anyway but its quite the contrast how one all time great is received vs. those that have cost themselves anything remotely close to respect.
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I agree Cy, especially when you're talking about guys like Clemens, Bonds & A-Rod. Because they had all the talent in the world & didn't have to cheat.
 
i want justice!!!!!! last year i played, they took us off plane right into clubhouse, peed in cup, and came to our rooms that nite, anyone with drugs in system was put on plane next day, excessive alcohol were put in program!

then it was this.... first time org's wanted players to lift weights, had us pair up with no supervision, pumpin serious iron, then after weight lifting it was right to field, how in Gods name as a SS was i to be able to perform after lifting weights!!!!!!!! is there an attorney in the house, whats the statue of limitations????
 
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